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@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:41 AM)

Like, in general, not going into specific bands or covers. Because I could point out plenty of repainted toys I didn't like as much as the original, too.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 May 2021 - 06:39 AM)

Is a musician covering a song "fixing" it?

@  Nevermore : (17 May 2021 - 05:15 AM)

So, then, isn't redecoing or retooling an existing toy also "fixing" someone else's art?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 10:07 PM)

A toy is not on the same level as a piece of drawn art, true, but it is 100% an entertainment product.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 05:05 PM)

A toy is an object of utility, Comparing that to a piece of drawn art is grossly ignoring the difference between the two. Also, you didn't answer my questions. Try again.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:25 PM)

Part of the difference is that those covers are primarily one person's art. Sure, you probably have an inker and a colorist, but the lines and composition are one person. A toy however is a team design at pretty much all levels.

@  Cyoti : (16 May 2021 - 03:52 PM)

toymaking is a collaborative process, you have to make compromises and factories are going to get things wrong

@  tigerhawk : (16 May 2021 - 03:43 PM)

Earthrise had a few holes, Runamuck's legs YIKES!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 03:37 PM)

I doubt that say, the designer for Kingdom Cheetor was happy about every bit of unpainted plastic on it.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:28 PM)

J Scott Campbell recently had his Spiderman cover "fixed" by someone online. A few weeks ago, someone on twitter "fixed" someone's Sonic the Hedgehog fan art where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles were drawn as humans. Both times and other times, the "fixer" gets called out and criticised as you shouldn't go around "fixing" someone else's art because its rude and disrespectful to the original artist. And I was thinking isn't "fixed your s*** for ya" exactly what toy customisers do?

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

Have you ever changed your car in any way whatsoever compared to the factory configuration, or are you leaving the designer's art unchanged in that case as well?

@  CORVUS : (16 May 2021 - 02:28 PM)

It's best not to ponder it too hard.

@  Nevermore : (16 May 2021 - 04:16 AM)

Bass X0, I really wonder sometimes how you come up with these random tangents apropos of nothing.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 04:11 AM)

It's collaborative art.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 May 2021 - 04:07 AM)

Toys are subject to budget constraints, so its not like customizing would ruin the designer's vision or whatever.

@  Bass X0 : (16 May 2021 - 03:38 AM)

Isn't customising a toy just "fixing other people's art"?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 May 2021 - 02:58 AM)

Oops, All Berries

@  Sabrblade : (16 May 2021 - 12:47 AM)

Nope, Chuck Berry

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 May 2021 - 10:42 PM)

Nope, Chuck Testa.

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 May 2021 - 10:41 PM)

English needs to revive Chuck Finley in everyday text

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English needs to revive Mindy in everyday text.

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English needs to revive book in everyday text.

@  Sabrblade : (15 May 2021 - 04:00 PM)

English needs to revive Mook in everyday text

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 May 2021 - 03:42 PM)

English needs to revive Mork in everyday text

@  CORVUS : (15 May 2021 - 02:21 PM)

English needs to revive Morn in everyday text

@  Nevermore : (15 May 2021 - 12:38 PM)

English needs to revive Gorn in everyday text

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English needs to revive Gore in everyday text

@  Bass X0 : (15 May 2021 - 09:45 AM)

English needs to revive Gort in everyday text

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 May 2021 - 06:52 AM)

English needs to revive bort in everyday text

@  Telly : (15 May 2021 - 01:12 AM)

English needs to revive bork in everyday text

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English needs to revive dork in everyday text.

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English needs to revive pork in everyday text.

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English needs to revive porn in everyday text.

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English needs to revive Ģorn in everyday text.

@  Patch : (14 May 2021 - 05:53 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (13 May 2021 - 04:41 PM)

Yeah, my hybrid does that when idling or at low speeds. Otherwise it's almost completely silent.

@  ZakuConvoy : (13 May 2021 - 02:27 PM)

That might actually be a fake noise they make electric cars make so pedestrians can hear them. Some cars even let you pick out what noise they make.

@  wonko the sane? : (13 May 2021 - 11:20 AM)

Actually heard a car with that electric, scifi-hum to it. Made me realize that we kinda are living in the future...

@  tigerhawk : (13 May 2021 - 03:28 AM)

Nearly thirty Studio Series figs including the '86 line. "I won't touch that." I said a few years ago when deluxe wave 5 came to my store for a tenner each. My latest one' is 72 Starscream.

@  Steevy Maximus : (10 May 2021 - 05:22 PM)

God, it's such a pain to have a local email address shut down. So many accounts to update...

@  Bass X0 : (10 May 2021 - 04:43 PM)

"Let's make a bargain, shall we? You ask Primus for help and I'll stop the moment He shows up."

@  tigerhawk : (10 May 2021 - 02:56 AM)

The 1988 G1 line up could all have been done as Titan Master things, I figure the Pretenders could be done as Titan Master Drones and Prime Master shells.

@  Cyoti : (08 May 2021 - 11:14 AM)

Perfect is the enemy of the good. And it's still better than making him a remold of RTS Jazz as planned originally. Fact of the matter is: Nightbeat is just not a priority with Hasbro.


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#321 Spark

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 01:48 PM

That was also back in the day when there was a lot less to consider and for which to budget.  Now I like to know whether I should be preparing to pick-and-choose or not.  When it's just two or three exclusives, that wasn't exactly an issue.


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Posted 20 January 2016 - 01:52 PM

 

Note, the set doesn't take place in the Beast Wars Uprising Universe. Where it DOES take place is quite exciting! Announcement on that soon!

 

 

I'm trying to figure out what that could mean. There's nothing "quite exciting" about "generically pre-Beast Wars" or "the Wings Universe again" but I can't really think of anything else it could be. 


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Posted 20 January 2016 - 01:57 PM

110. Yes, I know it's only 10 more...

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 01:57 PM

oh, christ, it's going to be the real beast wars universe isn't it


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Posted 20 January 2016 - 02:05 PM

It's obnoxious how they refuse to just straight up tell people what they're paying for, but at least that's two less toys I care about.


Pre-FunPub Botcon toys were mostly unannounced too. It was usually just "Large toy" and "Small toy" on the registration form.

3H toys also didn't come in sets of ~15 and were mostly new characters you could reasonably expect were related to the Beast Era and used its molds.

oh, christ, it's going to be the real beast wars universe isn't it

How is that any different than DoFP or Wings Universe?

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 02:11 PM

Guys, the GT figure is definitely not Diaclone Bombshell, a deco that is not present on the other use(s) of the CW Bombshell mold for the BotCon set.

 

Let's just agree on that.

 

Agreed! 



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 02:14 PM

 


Pre-FunPub Botcon toys were mostly unannounced too. It was usually just "Large toy" and "Small toy" on the registration form.

 

3H toys also didn't come in sets of ~15 and were mostly new characters you could reasonably expect were related to the Beast Era and used its molds.


 

 

Just pointing out FunPub is not the only "they" to do such a thing, it's not a unique concept. Not sure the ~15 toys is really a pro or con in the comparison either. Nowadays you'll know 30-50% of the toys before hand (or often times close to 100% once leaks happen), back then it's was usually 0% known.



#328 Creedence

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 02:15 PM

Yes, and it was dumb then, just less offensively so. What is your point?

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 02:18 PM

 

 

Note, the set doesn't take place in the Beast Wars Uprising Universe. Where it DOES take place is quite exciting! Announcement on that soon!

 

 

I'm trying to figure out what that could mean. There's nothing "quite exciting" about "generically pre-Beast Wars" or "the Wings Universe again" but I can't really think of anything else it could be. 

 

I'm wondering if, thanks to that "closer working relationship with Hasbro", they'll be working within the IDW timeline or something weird like that.  It's a very odd statement.


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#330 M Sipher

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 02:19 PM

Can we please stop pretending that the TF franchise, collector market, and fandom in general 15+ years ago were exactly like they were today?

 

3H (theoretically) did what it did because it made sense for the context of the time those actions were taken. A lot's changed since then.

 

 

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#331 Whirl

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 02:50 PM

I don't even REMEMBER what the fandom was like fifteen years ago, but that's because I was, what, nine back then?

 

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#332 Blot

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 02:53 PM

You are an evil, evil man.



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:05 PM

Pffft, please, I was seven.

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:07 PM


I was 24.

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:08 PM


So now we have:
 
5 CW molds in the boxed set
 
1 CW mold as the attendee freebie with a brand new headsculpt
 
1 CW mold as the custom class figure with an "an alternative head sculpt that is not available at retail", and which is not a BW character but a 1984/1985 G1 character
 
1 CW Legends class mold as the troop builder souvenir set, which will have an alternate version of itself included with the Golden Ticket package, and the GT version is also not a BW character but is related to a familiar G1 character
 
1 non-CW "centerpiece" souvenir figure
 
1 CW mold souvenir figure
 
1 non-CW mold souvenir figure
 
Plus, one of the souvenir figures will feature a headsculpt that has not been released in the U.S. before.


this is not enough cw

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:08 PM

 

Guys, the GT figure is definitely not Diaclone Bombshell, a deco that is not present on the other use(s) of the CW Bombshell mold for the BotCon set.

 

Let's just agree on that.

 

Agreed! 

 

 

(Rumor mill games are fun hehe. Games aside, another "source" also claims that really ISN'T it, so I never actually know anything).



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:12 PM

Has there been any indication whether the troop builder itself is BW-related?

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:13 PM

Legends-class Seekers, perhaps?

It gets around retiring the Classics mold....

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:14 PM

I was 4!

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:17 PM

Legends-class Seekers, perhaps?

It gets around retiring the Classics mold....

 

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