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@  Patchouli Kn... : (22 June 2018 - 05:18 AM)

Yeah, really... what a shitshow.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2018 - 04:53 AM)

This week has been an almost unmitigated damn nightmare. It can go die in some metaphorical trash fire where it belongs.

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2018 - 04:48 AM)

I feel your pain.

@  Whirl Maximus : (22 June 2018 - 04:47 AM)

This time ten years ago I was looking forward to Transformers 2.

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2018 - 01:41 AM)

There's room enough for five more cabinets.

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2018 - 01:41 AM)

Once I've settled in and earned money again, I can start with the third wall.

@  Plokatron : (21 June 2018 - 10:05 PM)

I'm still working on my comic just been trying to start up a Custom Lego shop. Won't be too long but I'm still here.

@  Dracula : (21 June 2018 - 10:02 PM)

(really though, great display)

@  Dracula : (21 June 2018 - 10:02 PM)

you're gonna have a buildup of dinosaur electrons.

@  Dracula : (21 June 2018 - 10:01 PM)

he needs his dino-breathing room! :D

@  Dracula : (21 June 2018 - 10:01 PM)

Trypticon looks a bit cramped in there, nevermore!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 June 2018 - 05:54 PM)

Sad thing is we've thought more about the foam than the show writers ever did. :D

@  Nevermore : (21 June 2018 - 05:47 PM)

https://imgur.com/ky0qGVD

@  Nevermore : (21 June 2018 - 05:47 PM)

Current status of my collection room in my new, still-under-construction apartment:

@  wonko the sane? : (21 June 2018 - 05:31 PM)

Depends on whether or not the motive engines for the vehicle mode are the same as the robot mode. Cause we know they use energon for everything.

@  Bass X0 : (21 June 2018 - 05:17 PM)

I was thinking today if Transformers would carry the fuel for their alternate mode in their robot mode? They'd have to, right?

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 June 2018 - 01:28 PM)

I mean, the clear meta reason is so non-Transformers don't die horribly on their ships, but that's not as fun to speculate about.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 June 2018 - 10:43 AM)

There's also lots of chemical reactions which only precipite with oxygen.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 June 2018 - 09:27 AM)

Oxygen is obviously a native gas on cybertron and also let’s the equipment “breath” so to speak.

@  Cybersnark : (21 June 2018 - 08:47 AM)

@Wonko; Yeah, but why oxygen? There are a lot of non-flammable gasses they could've used. And we've seen TFs using radio to communicate in vacuum.

@  Robowang : (21 June 2018 - 08:29 AM)

As the Cream of Wheat glugged forth from his meatus, his mind focused on only one thing: Mommy loved him so.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 June 2018 - 08:17 AM)

there's lots you can't do in vaccuum. The least of which is audio communication.

@  Cybersnark : (21 June 2018 - 08:04 AM)

Though that begs the question of why a robotic species would keep their ships pressurized with oxygen in the first place.

@  Pennpenn : (21 June 2018 - 07:29 AM)

Guess it's just me playing FTL recently. Opening a few doors out to the void is a good way to deal with fires and rude visitors.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 June 2018 - 07:14 AM)

Plus it depends on what part of the ship, can’t easily vent an interior area.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 June 2018 - 06:34 AM)

depends on what's wrong. If you need to get something out and away, would also need to have started in a pressurised space to begin with. If you just want to vent extra heat: it wouldn't work as well as vaccuum is an insulator.

@  Pennpenn : (21 June 2018 - 03:12 AM)

If they're in space wouldn't it make more sense just to vent the area affected to vacuum?

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 June 2018 - 07:16 PM)

I mean the foam was dangerous, but in space they probably put out the fires, then wore the equivalent of a hazmat suit to clean up.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 June 2018 - 04:38 PM)

Only on special occassions.

@  Paladin : (20 June 2018 - 03:50 PM)

you don't?

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 June 2018 - 02:17 PM)

I mean, we don't usually use asbestos on our souls.....

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 June 2018 - 10:11 AM)

*looks at asbestos" Yep... Cause we've never used something harmful as a fire retardant. x.x;

@  unluckiness : (20 June 2018 - 06:32 AM)

fire retardant foam is so powerful it can extinguish even sparks

@  Pennpenn : (20 June 2018 - 05:23 AM)

I mean, this is a species that can be disabled (possibly fatally after a while?) by flame retardant foam, so yeah.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 June 2018 - 01:28 AM)

Transformers are exactly as resilient as the plot needs them to be, so who knows, it could be lethal today.

@  RichardT1977 : (19 June 2018 - 08:50 PM)

Which is why Marvel Megatron was interested in Dr. Biggles-Jones' railgun design and had it grafted onto his G2 tank mode.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 June 2018 - 08:43 PM)

Doesn't really matter what transformers are made of. If you send a 10 pound ball of metal flying at a good enough velocity, you will do damage.

@  Soft Snow : (19 June 2018 - 05:53 PM)

A regular cannon that shoots cannon balls and does nothing to other transformers because they are robots but would put a mean whole in the side of your wooden boat...

@  Shiny Chariot : (19 June 2018 - 05:44 PM)

wtf did the shoutbox do to my emoji

@  Shiny Chariot : (19 June 2018 - 05:44 PM)

also @ patchy its whatever your heart desires 😘

@  Shiny Chariot : (19 June 2018 - 05:44 PM)

shes not a drill but she is a grill

@  ▲ndrusi : (19 June 2018 - 05:40 PM)

POTP CINDERSAUR IS A GIRL THIS IS NOT A DRILL

@  Patchouli Kn... : (19 June 2018 - 05:18 PM)

A fusion cannon, or just a regular cannon?

@  Shiny Chariot : (19 June 2018 - 05:04 PM)

megatron but he turns into a ford fusion with a cannon badly welded onto the roof

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 June 2018 - 02:22 PM)

My Little Fusion Cannon: Friendship Through Tyranny.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 June 2018 - 02:01 PM)

was that supposed to sound sexual

@  wonko the sane? : (19 June 2018 - 01:55 PM)

I'm pretty sure that megatrons cannon is his best friend, so that friendship is magic stuff won't work.

@  MEDdMI : (19 June 2018 - 01:16 PM)

And then the magic ponies force everyone to be friends FOREVERRRRRRR

@  wonko the sane? : (19 June 2018 - 12:06 PM)

Or... megatron just goes to war against skynet cause he can't stand the competition.

@  Otaku : (19 June 2018 - 10:53 AM)

As for Megatron vs Skynet... Shockwave decides to partner with Skynet and oust Megatron after first contact is made. We get Terminator/Vehicon hybrids. At first the humans are expedient pawns (why waste loyal Decepticons), then enough humans augmented with Cybertronian tech impress Megs that, after victory, humanity is absorbed into the Decepticon empire. Even if only as second or third class citizens, it still beats being seen as vermin by Skynet.


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#1 Powered Convoy

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 08:43 AM


 


The attendee figure will be a Deluxe with a new head.

Of their at-show toys, one is going to be their centerpiece toy for BotCon, which is not a Combiner Wars toy.... and they will be making it extra limited to drive demand. *snip*
Of the other at-show toys there will some Combiners, and a Generations toy using "not American" tooling (so a mould released in Japan).

 

So with this knowledge we know that the exclusives for this BotCon set has more new heads than any other, with 6 confirmed (1 for Ravage, Tarantulas, Ramhorn, the Attendee Figure, and 2 for Sea Clamp)

Any centerpiece figure is likely to have a new head, as what could be made that could be considered a centerpiece figure and not get some form of new tooling.  Potentially pushing the total to 7 new heads for this set.

As was mentioned, we have a few Japanese exclusive Generations (thereabouts) tooling.  This includes Nightbird, Slipstream, Blackarachnia, and Deluxe Groove (if you count Unite Warriors / Combiner Wars).

So who do we think the centerpiece is?  A centerpiece figure says to me something Voyager scale or bigger.

 

What about the attendee figure?  Who is this Japanese only tooling figure? 

 

Some of the other souvenirs are Combiner Wars, who do you think we'll see for CW figures?  I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravage head was reused as a Tigatron myself.

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 09:15 AM

Groove seems reasonably likely for the Japanese tooling; if we assume the at-show combiner toys are going to form a full combiner, then there's not room for many non-combining toys, especially since one is getting used for this "centrepiece". Unless there's an army builder set of limbs, I guess...?

I'm musing over what, exactly, they mean by centrepiece. Scorponok and Oilmaster would be the last two years' centrepieces, but given how many new heads we're getting I can't see a new "gimmick" on that level happening...



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 09:21 AM

Well the exclusive tooling could be a retool. Kind of like how Dion featured the Japanese exclusive tooling. I would think Groove might be something they would try to stick some place they could advertise for more.
I would also be surprised if a figure has a new gimmick, wat with the abundance of new heads.


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 11:00 AM

With Kre-O pretty much dead, I wonder what we can expect for Kre-O from this set?  Previous years have given us both characters from the set as Kreons (2013) as well as a best of BotCon set (2014) and a set of human based characters and robots (2015).

 

I'm also wondering if there are any troop builders that lend themselves well to CW molds.  We've gotten a 3 pack of distinct characters (with somewhat distinct colors) in 2013, heavy retools of each other in a 2 pack (2014's Pounce & Wingspan homages), and 4 completely distinct decos across the same tooling (Waruders with pilots).

 

Also has there every been an instance that the freebie figure had a new head that wasn't used in the set elsewhere?  Usually the freebie doesn't have a new head at all (the only one popping into my head was 2008's Ricochet).

 

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 11:12 AM

With Kre-O pretty much dead, I wonder what we can expect for Kre-O from this set?  Previous years have given us both characters from the set as Kreons (2013) as well as a best of BotCon set (2014) and a set of human based characters and robots (2015).

Maybe just a Kre-O version of the Axalon or Nemesis crew? Either styled after their Beast Wars bodies or DOFP.
 

I'm also wondering if there are any troop builders that lend themselves well to CW molds.  We've gotten a 3 pack of distinct characters (with somewhat distinct colors) in 2013, heavy retools of each other in a 2 pack (2014's Pounce & Wingspan homages), and 4 completely distinct decos across the same tooling (Waruders with pilots).

A Go-Bot set? Firecracker/Sideswipe from Prowl, Gearhead/Soundwave from Streetwise, Blowout/Frenzy from Brake-Neck, and High Beam/Bumblebee from Dead End. Doesn't particularly fit the theme, but if the comic is set in the Wings universe in the early days of the Predacons, the Go-Bots should still be around.

(yes, this is just me recycling my spy changer army builder idea)


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 11:32 AM

Also has there every been an instance that the freebie figure had a new head that wasn't used in the set elsewhere?  Usually the freebie doesn't have a new head at all (the only one popping into my head was 2008's Ricochet).

 

Tigatron also had Cheetor's head, and Ironfist had the Autotrooper head which wasn't from the main set, but I don't think an attendee toy has ever had its own unique head.



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 11:41 AM

With Kre-O pretty much dead, I wonder what we can expect for Kre-O from this set?  Previous years have given us both characters from the set as Kreons (2013) as well as a best of BotCon set (2014) and a set of human based characters and robots (2015).

 

I really don't expect any Kre-O this year. The fact that it's on my data pages for 2016 is really just because I start each new year's entry by copying a previous year's entry (making edits as reveals are announced) and it seemed to me that it was better to leave the Kre-O line intact rather than remove it, only to have to add it later if I'm proven wrong.

 

Indeed, that philosophy served me well in 2015. I really didn't expect Kre-O exclusives at BotCon there, either....



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 11:46 AM

Definitely expecting Tigatron from Ravage. Otherwise, I dunno.

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 11:50 AM

Also has there every been an instance that the freebie figure had a new head that wasn't used in the set elsewhere?  Usually the freebie doesn't have a new head at all (the only one popping into my head was 2008's Ricochet).

 

The freebie might have a new head... but that might not necessarily be the only use of that new head, right? Could be re-used in the souvenir sets, custom class figure, 2016 club exclusives, or TFSS5.0

 

I wonder if the troopbuilder set could be a set of 4 limbs and the "centerpiece" figure might be a notable re-mold of a torso to go along with the troopbuilder limbs.


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 11:54 AM

 

Also has there every been an instance that the freebie figure had a new head that wasn't used in the set elsewhere?  Usually the freebie doesn't have a new head at all (the only one popping into my head was 2008's Ricochet).

 

The freebie might have a new head... but that might not necessarily be the only use of that new head, right? Could be re-used in the souvenir sets, custom class figure, 2016 club exclusives, or TFSS5.0

 

I wonder if the troopbuilder set could be a set of 4 limbs and the "centerpiece" figure might be a notable re-mold of a torso to go along with the troopbuilder limbs.

 

I'm thinking that's a distinct possibility.

 

Troop Builders are almost always Decepticons / Predacons / evil-whatevers.

 

2009 - Sweep

2010 - Sharkticons

2011 - Autotroopers

2012 - Junkions

2013 - Seekers

2014 - Clones

2015 - Waruders

 

Though we usually don't get sets that are 100% one faction like this year's is.  2011 is the only other year where the box set is all one faction AND we have a troop builder (2007 didn't have a troop builder).  So I wonder if the troop builder will be Maximals since the box set is Predacons.

 

I'm also going to go out on a limb and guess that most of the remainder of the souvenirs will be Maximals / Autobots since the box set is all Predacons.

 

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 12:20 PM

I'd love for the centerpiece figure to be the 3H proposed TM3 Megatron finally realized in plastic.

 

It's like a decade later and I still want that thing.


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 12:47 PM

Galvatronus as King Starscream with four Seeker troop-builder limbs? All you'd need is one new head that seems to have been planned by Hasbro at some point anyway.


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 01:03 PM

I'd love for the centerpiece figure to be the 3H proposed TM3 Megatron finally realized in plastic.

 

It's like a decade later and I still want that thing.

 

While I consider the idea doubtful, I would certainly consider such a toy a "centerpiece" if done.



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 01:07 PM

It'd be neat to have the Maximal Security Force (what were they called?) as the troop builders. Color Variation similar to the Rainmakers.


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 01:54 PM

With Kre-O pretty much dead, I wonder what we can expect for Kre-O from this set?  Previous years have given us both characters from the set as Kreons (2013) as well as a best of BotCon set (2014) and a set of human based characters and robots (2015).

 

I'm also wondering if there are any troop builders that lend themselves well to CW molds.  We've gotten a 3 pack of distinct characters (with somewhat distinct colors) in 2013, heavy retools of each other in a 2 pack (2014's Pounce & Wingspan homages), and 4 completely distinct decos across the same tooling (Waruders with pilots).

 

Also has there every been an instance that the freebie figure had a new head that wasn't used in the set elsewhere?  Usually the freebie doesn't have a new head at all (the only one popping into my head was 2008's Ricochet).

 

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That last Club comic did have an Autotrooper, so there's an easy limb multi-pack.


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 02:18 PM

Yeah I was wondering about that too.  Makes me wonder if X-Brawn might be one too, since he was clearly based on Rook with Brawl's head (and not X-Brawn's head).  Though a white Rook might not be the most exciting figure, and they're already doing 2 versions of it with Impactor and Tarantulas.

 

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 03:45 PM

Pete said they centerpiece had new tooling to make the head fit, didn't it?

 

Also, Pete doing his usual HYPE HYPE HYPE thing, said fans would flip out over it. Odds that it is, perhaps, not a normal legends/deluxe/voyager figure? Is it possible they've got a MP toy in the works? Or maybe a Leader?



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Posted 17 November 2015 - 03:54 PM

Pete said they centerpiece had new tooling to make the head fit, didn't it?

 

Also, Pete doing his usual HYPE HYPE HYPE thing, said fans would flip out over it. Odds that it is, perhaps, not a normal legends/deluxe/voyager figure? Is it possible they've got a MP toy in the works? Or maybe a Leader?

Anything Masterpiece car would require a license, which they're not likely to spring for.  Anything else is either too big or Cassettetrons, so I could only see them doing Cassettetrons.  That is if Masterpiece figures are even on the table for them.

 

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Posted 17 November 2015 - 03:56 PM

It'd be neat to have the Maximal Security Force (what were they called?) as the troop builders. Color Variation similar to the Rainmakers.

Yeah, I said this a while ago.  And the Waspinator foursome had better color schemes in comparison to each other than the Rainmakers which only changed one plastic color. I'd want them to continue doing troop builders the same quality as the Waspinators, and including a Targetmaster partner for each one.


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Posted 17 November 2015 - 04:04 PM

That Waruder set was extremely awesome.  Very very expensive (probably for the reasons you mentioned), but extremely awesome.

 

Particularly everyone but the black and purple Waruder (I know, my least favorite is the black and purple repaint, who would have thought! :D).

 

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