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[G.B.Blackrock]

All that I said above notwithstanding, I'm actually a bit concerned if this show does take place in the Prime universe. It would almost certainly mean superseding the Pocketverse, which I've come to accept as the most "official" future beyond the TNG-era shows we were ever going to see, and I've quite enjoyed them.

[Rust]

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

[G.B.Blackrock]

 

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

 

 

You're just wrong. I thought that was obvious.

[NICK NEMESIS]

Well those people aren't real.

[Rust]

 

 

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

 

 

You're just wrong. I thought that was obvious.

 

 

 

Also, not caring about what the non-Trek fan thinks is why the series died the gasping, choking death that it did. Voyager and Enterprise did far too much navel gazing, and not enough to actually keep people invested in the franchise. The wastes of cinema that are the TNG era of movies certainly did no favors in that regard. "Eight years of history? WHAT eight years of history?"

[TM2-Megatron]

But will non-Trek fans even watch a TV series, anyway?  Going to see a blockbuster action-fest during the summer I can understand, but will the average new type of "fan" created by Abrams' movies really take an hour out of their week to sit down and watch a decidedly less-actiony, and less sexy (unless they get Mirror Hoshi) version?  Especially if it's exclusive to a streaming service that a lot of people don't even have.

 

 

All that I said above notwithstanding, I'm actually a bit concerned if this show does take place in the Prime universe. It would almost certainly mean superseding the Pocketverse, which I've come to accept as the most "official" future beyond the TNG-era shows we were ever going to see, and I've quite enjoyed them.

 

 

That's my main concern, too.  The pocketverse has recently provided us with some of the best (IMO) Star Trek stories we've had in many a year, and I'd hate for a new Prime Universe show to overwrite it with something not as good.

Edited by TM2-Megatron, 02 November 2015 - 07:11 PM.

[Dusty]

I wish they'd just say what universe this show's gonna be in. I am so, so sick of this argument that only hardcore Star Trek fans on message boards care about.

[Rust]

But will non-Trek fans even watch a TV series, anyway? 

 

TNG and DS9's successes in syndication point to yes.

 

Going to see a blockbuster action-fest during the summer I can understand, but will the average new type of "fan" created by Abrams' movies really take an hour out of their week to sit down and watch a decidedly less-actiony, and less sexy (unless they get Mirror Hoshi) version?

 

Considering every single iteration of this franchise has featured women in catsuits, I'm shocked you typed that concern out.

 

Especially if it's exclusive to a streaming service that a lot of people don't even have.

 

Well, that's the death knell of any series, no matter what the genre. As someone said earlier in the thread, it's UPN all over again. And we all know what happened when Trek became a UPN exclusive.

[tec]

Lt Worf's Family vacation Risa was just the start

[Lisbon Virgo]

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 
And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

If I were human, I would tell you to "go to hell". If I were human.

[Ashley]

Obviously, the new series takes place in one of those alternate realities where Troi and Worf were married.

[Rust]

 

 

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 
And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

If I were human, I would tell you to "go to hell". If I were human.

 

 

[TM2-Megatron]

 

TNG and DS9's successes in syndication point to yes.

 

It doesn't really seem like DS9 is in syndication much of anywhere, outside the US.  It hasn't aired in Canada for many years, and in googling I see it seems to be the least aired version of Star Trek in many other countries.  TNG and VOY seem to be the most aired.  Has it actually been successful?  If that's the case, I wish they'd remaster it for Blu-Ray.

 

Considering every single iteration of this franchise has featured women in catsuits, I'm shocked you typed that concern out.

 

 

The joke about Hoshi aside, I was actually just referring to the overall style of a hypothetical new show.  They won't be able to afford many of the elaborate effects or design aesthetics the new movies have, which will make the whole affair decidedly less "sexy" than the big-screen counterpart.

 

Catsuits aren't my thing, personally.  Despite the silly attempts, Star Trek has almost always been laughably cheesy and clumsy when it comes to introducing sex appeal to the show.  Jadzia was the closest they got.

[Lisbon Virgo]

A series about an alternate universe Troi and Worf? I could go for that. If the series is an Abrams Universe Next Gen show, Marina Sirtis is on record saying she would love to play Lwaxana Troi as a nod to playing Deanna and a tribute to Majel.

Edited by Lisbon Virgo, 03 November 2015 - 03:04 AM.

[tec]

Eh..I donno Jeri Ryan's 7of 9 or Nana Visitor as Mirrored Kira are slightly sexier IMO

[G.B.Blackrock]

 

 

 

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

 

 

You're just wrong. I thought that was obvious.

 

 

 

Also, not caring about what the non-Trek fan thinks is why the series died the gasping, choking death that it did. 

Please re-read my previous statement. Non-Trek fans don't care one way or the other which universe this is in. There's nothing to be gained by setting it in the Abramsverse vs. the Prime universe. It literally doesn't matter to them. It ONLY matters to Trek fans.

 

I'm not saying that CBS shouldn't care about non-Trek fans. I'm saying that what non-Trek fans think is irrelevant to the discussion of which universe this new show should take place in.

[LiamA]

Maybe they'll do the idea with Worf being captain.

[Lisbon Virgo]

Michael Dorn was pushing for a series following Captain Worf, so it's possible.

[NICK NEMESIS]

Don't get me excited for that.

[The Doctor Who]

That would be pretty cool, I admit.  Worf had one of the better character growth arcs through two different series, so it would be cool to see more of him.