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@  ZakuConvoy : (20 January 2019 - 07:42 PM)

His one shots and two or three parters are great. But...Dark Age got a little long in the tooth. Not bad, but not my favorite.

@  ZakuConvoy : (20 January 2019 - 07:40 PM)

For me, it's less the delay, and more that Astro City is always best in smaller chunks. The longer story arcs (which is what the OGNs sound like they're aiming for), while not bad, are far from the high points of the series.

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2019 - 07:52 AM)

The recent ongoing series didn't start until what, 2013?

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2019 - 07:51 AM)

Then was continued as a five-issue mini-series ("Local Heroes"), then came a 16-issue maxi-series ("The Dark Age"), plus a couple of standalone specials and two-parters...

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2019 - 07:50 AM)

It started out as a series, but due to Busiek's health problems (?), it was put on hold after six issues, then got relaunched with a new #1, had several delays (again because of Busiek's health issues), was discontinued after #22...

@  Nevermore : (20 January 2019 - 07:49 AM)

I don't get why people are making such a big deal out of Astro City becoming a series of graphic novels now. I mean, it's not like it's always been a steady ongoing series.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I'm also only reading the trades. So I'm still missing... two volumes that are currently only available as hardcovers? Three?

@  Trpodeca : (17 January 2019 - 06:22 PM)

Astro City is great. Since I only read the trades, there probably won't be a big change for me.

@  ZakuConvoy : (17 January 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have. Great series. Hopefully the transition to OGNs will be a smooth one.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 07:20 AM)

Anyone here reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City?

@  Verity Carlo : (16 January 2019 - 01:12 PM)

https://sites.google...ations---part-1awwwww shit

@  Benbot : (16 January 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Remember the Noid? He steals pizzas!

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:47 AM)

That said, the old "Nester" character from Nintendo Power IS owned by Nintendo, and I could see a homage in there

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:46 AM)

Because technically DiC created the character, Nintendo does not own him.

@  Paladin : (16 January 2019 - 10:28 AM)

sidebar- why is "Captain N" not in Smash yet? that seems like such an easy option.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2019 - 09:18 AM)

The 90's mario cartoons had exactly three character aspects to work with: fat, italian and plumber. He wasn't exactly wrenching pipes in every episode, so they had to do something...

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2019 - 07:31 AM)

It's in another castle.

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:24 AM)

i HOpE sHe mADe LotSA SPAGHETTI

@  Locoman : (16 January 2019 - 06:17 AM)

Mario, wherever you are, HEEEEEEEELP!

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:07 AM)

That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario *wheeze*

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2019 - 02:24 AM)

It's too hot here.

@  Echowarrior : (15 January 2019 - 11:03 PM)

I liked the Super Mario Brothers Super Show the best myself.

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There's always the three Mario cartoons DiC made back in the 80s.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 09:48 PM)

So they could make a show that everyone would scream was an adventure time knockoff? I get what you're saying, but I can't see it being well received.

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.


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#41 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:59 PM

All that I said above notwithstanding, I'm actually a bit concerned if this show does take place in the Prime universe. It would almost certainly mean superseding the Pocketverse, which I've come to accept as the most "official" future beyond the TNG-era shows we were ever going to see, and I've quite enjoyed them.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:00 PM



Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:01 PM

 



Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

 

 

You're just wrong. I thought that was obvious. ;)



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:01 PM

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#45 Rust

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:03 PM

 

 



Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

 

 

You're just wrong. I thought that was obvious. ;)

 

 

:p

 

Also, not caring about what the non-Trek fan thinks is why the series died the gasping, choking death that it did. Voyager and Enterprise did far too much navel gazing, and not enough to actually keep people invested in the franchise. The wastes of cinema that are the TNG era of movies certainly did no favors in that regard. "Eight years of history? WHAT eight years of history?"


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:10 PM

But will non-Trek fans even watch a TV series, anyway?  Going to see a blockbuster action-fest during the summer I can understand, but will the average new type of "fan" created by Abrams' movies really take an hour out of their week to sit down and watch a decidedly less-actiony, and less sexy (unless they get Mirror Hoshi) version?  Especially if it's exclusive to a streaming service that a lot of people don't even have.

 

 

All that I said above notwithstanding, I'm actually a bit concerned if this show does take place in the Prime universe. It would almost certainly mean superseding the Pocketverse, which I've come to accept as the most "official" future beyond the TNG-era shows we were ever going to see, and I've quite enjoyed them.

 

 

That's my main concern, too.  The pocketverse has recently provided us with some of the best (IMO) Star Trek stories we've had in many a year, and I'd hate for a new Prime Universe show to overwrite it with something not as good.


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:15 PM

I wish they'd just say what universe this show's gonna be in. I am so, so sick of this argument that only hardcore Star Trek fans on message boards care about.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:20 PM

But will non-Trek fans even watch a TV series, anyway? 

 

TNG and DS9's successes in syndication point to yes.

 


Going to see a blockbuster action-fest during the summer I can understand, but will the average new type of "fan" created by Abrams' movies really take an hour out of their week to sit down and watch a decidedly less-actiony, and less sexy (unless they get Mirror Hoshi) version?

 

Considering every single iteration of this franchise has featured women in catsuits, I'm shocked you typed that concern out.

 

Especially if it's exclusive to a streaming service that a lot of people don't even have.

 

Well, that's the death knell of any series, no matter what the genre. As someone said earlier in the thread, it's UPN all over again. And we all know what happened when Trek became a UPN exclusive.


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:25 PM

Lt Worf's Family vacation Risa was just the start


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:27 PM

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 
And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:28 PM

Obviously, the new series takes place in one of those alternate realities where Troi and Worf were married.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:29 PM

 

 

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 
And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

If I were human, I would tell you to "go to hell". If I were human.

 

 


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:35 PM

 

TNG and DS9's successes in syndication point to yes.

 

It doesn't really seem like DS9 is in syndication much of anywhere, outside the US.  It hasn't aired in Canada for many years, and in googling I see it seems to be the least aired version of Star Trek in many other countries.  TNG and VOY seem to be the most aired.  Has it actually been successful?  If that's the case, I wish they'd remaster it for Blu-Ray.
 

Considering every single iteration of this franchise has featured women in catsuits, I'm shocked you typed that concern out.

 

 

The joke about Hoshi aside, I was actually just referring to the overall style of a hypothetical new show.  They won't be able to afford many of the elaborate effects or design aesthetics the new movies have, which will make the whole affair decidedly less "sexy" than the big-screen counterpart.

 

Catsuits aren't my thing, personally.  Despite the silly attempts, Star Trek has almost always been laughably cheesy and clumsy when it comes to introducing sex appeal to the show.  Jadzia was the closest they got.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:39 PM

A series about an alternate universe Troi and Worf? I could go for that. If the series is an Abrams Universe Next Gen show, Marina Sirtis is on record saying she would love to play Lwaxana Troi as a nod to playing Deanna and a tribute to Majel.

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:41 PM

Eh..I donno Jeri Ryan's 7of 9 or Nana Visitor as Mirrored Kira are slightly sexier IMO


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:43 PM

 

 

 



Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

 

 

You're just wrong. I thought that was obvious. ;)

 

 

:p

 

Also, not caring about what the non-Trek fan thinks is why the series died the gasping, choking death that it did. 

Please re-read my previous statement. Non-Trek fans don't care one way or the other which universe this is in. There's nothing to be gained by setting it in the Abramsverse vs. the Prime universe. It literally doesn't matter to them. It ONLY matters to Trek fans.

 

I'm not saying that CBS shouldn't care about non-Trek fans. I'm saying that what non-Trek fans think is irrelevant to the discussion of which universe this new show should take place in.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:47 PM

Maybe they'll do the idea with Worf being captain.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 08:44 PM

Michael Dorn was pushing for a series following Captain Worf, so it's possible.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:08 PM

Don't get me excited for that.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:09 PM

That would be pretty cool, I admit.  Worf had one of the better character growth arcs through two different series, so it would be cool to see more of him.


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