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@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 08:19 PM)

I'm also only reading the trades. So I'm still missing... two volumes that are currently only available as hardcovers? Three?

@  Trpodeca : (17 January 2019 - 06:22 PM)

Astro City is great. Since I only read the trades, there probably won't be a big change for me.

@  ZakuConvoy : (17 January 2019 - 05:34 PM)

I have. Great series. Hopefully the transition to OGNs will be a smooth one.

@  Nevermore : (17 January 2019 - 07:20 AM)

Anyone here reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City?

@  Verity Carlo : (16 January 2019 - 01:12 PM)

https://sites.google...ations---part-1awwwww shit

@  Benbot : (16 January 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Remember the Noid? He steals pizzas!

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:47 AM)

That said, the old "Nester" character from Nintendo Power IS owned by Nintendo, and I could see a homage in there

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 January 2019 - 10:46 AM)

Because technically DiC created the character, Nintendo does not own him.

@  Paladin : (16 January 2019 - 10:28 AM)

sidebar- why is "Captain N" not in Smash yet? that seems like such an easy option.

@  wonko the sane? : (16 January 2019 - 09:18 AM)

The 90's mario cartoons had exactly three character aspects to work with: fat, italian and plumber. He wasn't exactly wrenching pipes in every episode, so they had to do something...

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 January 2019 - 07:31 AM)

It's in another castle.

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:24 AM)

i HOpE sHe mADe LotSA SPAGHETTI

@  Locoman : (16 January 2019 - 06:17 AM)

Mario, wherever you are, HEEEEEEEELP!

@  unluckiness : (16 January 2019 - 06:07 AM)

That's Mama Luigi to you, Mario *wheeze*

@  Pennpenn : (16 January 2019 - 02:24 AM)

It's too hot here.

@  Echowarrior : (15 January 2019 - 11:03 PM)

I liked the Super Mario Brothers Super Show the best myself.

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 10:35 PM)

There's always the three Mario cartoons DiC made back in the 80s.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 09:48 PM)

So they could make a show that everyone would scream was an adventure time knockoff? I get what you're saying, but I can't see it being well received.

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 January 2019 - 08:47 PM)

The fact that Adventure Time was on the air for 8 years and at no point did Nintendo hand the creators a large sack of money and say, "Please make a Mario thing for us" will forever anger me.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 07:03 PM)

There was so much awesome put into design and conception of the super mario bros. movie, and it didn't even need the branding: but it wouldn't have made it to the screen without the branding.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:56 PM)

Many aspects of it have stuck in my memory, though. The boots, the devolution ray, the aesthetic of the dinosaur city

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

I had no idea there was another Mario Bros. movie coming out, though. Doubt it'll top the first one, it was just so bizarre

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 06:55 PM)

They already act a bit like minions; they just aren't stupid

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 05:35 PM)

The trouble is: I honestly can't decide if making them minions would be better or worse than the continuously shrill voices they've used for the last 20 years.

@  Paladin : (15 January 2019 - 05:27 PM)

hope everyone's ready for Toads to look, act & sound like the Minions forever...

@  Lancer : (15 January 2019 - 04:54 PM)

I mean, considering Illumination is making the new Mario movie, Super Mario Bros. 1993 won't be the worst Mario movie anymore

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 04:36 PM)

"Sir, your pizza's here." "Not now!"

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Actually, yeah. I think I need to watch it again. Great movie.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 03:44 PM)

It's a fun movie with amazing sets. As long as you don't try to connect it to anything else Mario, it's fine.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 January 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Damn, I haven't thought about the Super Mario Bros. feature film in forever. Need to watch it again, soon; I can only imagine it gets better with time.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Re:Zero is a fantastic series.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 03:10 PM)

Yeah it's not a bad concept, it's just that lately the term is associated with "I, a Loser Everyman, Woke Up In a Generic Fantasy Setting Where I'm Super Special So Now Girls Orbit Me"

@  Sabrblade : (15 January 2019 - 12:59 PM)

So too is the old Super Mario Bros movie

@  wonko the sane? : (15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM)

I went and looked up the term "isekai"... that's not actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 January 2019 - 12:19 PM)

I'm not sure, but the cartoon segments of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show are.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Wait. A. Minute. Is Blaster Master an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (15 January 2019 - 08:49 AM)

*Dragon Slave*

@  Xellos : (15 January 2019 - 06:22 AM)

I used to use a pic like that as my avatar for years, but that... is a secret.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (15 January 2019 - 02:07 AM)

Is Flatland an isekai?

@  MEDdMI : (14 January 2019 - 11:16 PM)

@Xellos Every time I see you post, I picture Xellos' infuriating smug grin and finger waggling with the "sore wa hi*mi*tsu*desu <3"

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 09:50 PM)

The Last Starfighter is also one of those

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

Astronaut gets shot through a wornhole and ends up on a living starship full of escaped alien prisoners.

@  Cybersnark : (14 January 2019 - 09:28 PM)

I realized a few months ago that Farscape is a sci-fi-based Isekai.

@  Sabrblade : (14 January 2019 - 09:03 PM)

The Thor movies and Enchanted, as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 January 2019 - 08:45 PM)

@xellos We get to many of those in Hollywood movies.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (14 January 2019 - 08:13 PM)

Re:Creators!

@  Xellos : (14 January 2019 - 07:47 PM)

There is also Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero, where people regularly get summoned to a fantasy world, then eventually sent back with their accumulated powers (and the main character smuggles the demon lord's daugher by his request, which is a no-no)

@  Waspinator : (14 January 2019 - 07:23 PM)

We need more inverse isekais, like The Devil is a Part-Timer

@  ▲ndrusi : (14 January 2019 - 04:11 PM)

I feel like Tron is pushing it but I can't actually come up with an argument to that effect

@  Pennpenn : (14 January 2019 - 03:21 PM)

To Arazyr- I don't see why it wouldn't be.


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#21 Rust

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:02 PM

New Star Trek you say?

 

It's been a long road, you know.

 

It's been a long time, but I guess the time is finally here.

 

People will see their dreams come alive at last, they will touch the sky.

 

We naysayers won't hold them down no more, no we're not going to change their mind.

 

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:30 PM

 

 

I read on one of the announcements on Facebook that the new show will NOT be connected to the movies universe. I'm just wondering if this will be something new, or one of the three main pitches: Axanar, Renegades, or the series following Captain Worf.

 

I've seen a few people say this on Facebook. There is absolutely nothing in the press release to suggest this isn't in the same universe as the Abrams movies.

 

 

Actually, turns out he's right. http://www.startrek....es-january-2017

 

Two notable paragraphs:

 

 

 

The brand-new Star Trek will introduce new characters seeking imaginative new worlds and new civilizations, while exploring the dramatic contemporary themes that have been a signature of the franchise since its inception in 1966.
The new television series is not related to the upcoming feature film Star Trek Beyond which is scheduled to be distributed by Paramount Pictures in summer 2016.

 

 

I think that more means it's not tying in directly with the plot of Star Trek Beyond and won't feature the Enterprise crew.

 

I would be legitimately shocked if this took place in the Prime universe.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:39 PM

The rights with Star Trek are weird now since Viacom broke up.  CBS owns the TV rights and Paramount owns the film rights.  Deals can always be made, but it's possible that CBS would want distance from the films or would be unable to place the series in the same universe as the films.  It's also possible that this will be a brand new continuity of its own.

 

I'd really like it to be set in the Prime universe shortly after the destruction of Romulus.  That would give it a connection to the films without interfering in whatever story they might tell.  It would allow some follow-up to the giant mess that Kurtzman, Orci, and Abrams left of the Prime universe on the way out.  And it would allow for some guest spots by 24th century crew members.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:42 PM

The rights with Star Trek are weird now since Viacom broke up.  CBS owns the TV rights and Paramount owns the film rights.  Deals can always be made, but it's possible that CBS would want distance from the films or would be unable to place the series in the same universe as the films.  It's also possible that this will be a brand new continuity of its own.

 

This argument would be stronger if they'd hired someone other than Kurtzman to develop this.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:50 PM

 

I read on one of the announcements on Facebook that the new show will NOT be connected to the movies universe. I'm just wondering if this will be something new, or one of the three main pitches: Axanar, Renegades, or the series following Captain Worf.

 

 

It'll be that sitcom about The Rikers.

 

 You mean the Troi's?



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 04:52 PM

 

The rights with Star Trek are weird now since Viacom broke up.  CBS owns the TV rights and Paramount owns the film rights.  Deals can always be made, but it's possible that CBS would want distance from the films or would be unable to place the series in the same universe as the films.  It's also possible that this will be a brand new continuity of its own.

 

This argument would be stronger if they'd hired someone other than Kurtzman to develop this.

 

 

Yeah.  It might be TNG in the new universe.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 05:02 PM

 

 

The rights with Star Trek are weird now since Viacom broke up.  CBS owns the TV rights and Paramount owns the film rights.  Deals can always be made, but it's possible that CBS would want distance from the films or would be unable to place the series in the same universe as the films.  It's also possible that this will be a brand new continuity of its own.

 

This argument would be stronger if they'd hired someone other than Kurtzman to develop this.

 

 

Yeah.  It might be TNG in the new universe.

 

 

I actually think that's a possibility. TNG is, by far, the most popular of the TV shows in streaming and syndication now. Jumping ahead 80 years in the Abrams universe would be a convenient way to explore the new timeline without interfering with the movies.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 05:27 PM

 

I read on one of the announcements on Facebook that the new show will NOT be connected to the movies universe. I'm just wondering if this will be something new, or one of the three main pitches: Axanar, Renegades, or the series following Captain Worf.

 
 
It'll be that sitcom about The Rikers.
 
 You mean the Troi's?

No, he means a sitcom starring Will and Thomas Riker. Hilarious hi-jinx ensue when Thomas moves in with his married "twin brother" and brings home a new girlfriend each week.

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 05:32 PM

I am excited. Here's hoping.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 05:40 PM

The Abrams TNG era:

The Galactic class USS Enterprise NCC 1701 - D is twenty years old, after a refit, the crew are pushed for a five year mission running scientific surveys and diplomatic missions in the Gamma Quadrant UFP territories.

It has a crew compliment of five hundred Starfleet officers, one hundred positronic androids (and a factory) and over two thousand non essential personnel: scientists and civilians. It's equiped with transwarp but it' primary engines are slipstream.

Captain Riker and Protocol Officer Troi are assigned command of the ship after their secret marriage and relationship came to light when the USS Hood was lost in battle and Riker was blamed. They are given this posting by Admiral Picard.


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 05:48 PM

I'd watch it.


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 05:52 PM

Dream casting a rebooted TNG would be a lot of fun.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:18 PM

Dream casting a rebooted TNG would be a lot of fun.

If you used a Dreamcast to make the next Star Trek, then at least something would be thinking this time around XD


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:33 PM

 

Dream casting a rebooted TNG would be a lot of fun.

If you used a Dreamcast to make the next Star Trek, then at least something would be thinking this time around XD

 

 

This was almost a good joke. Almost.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:35 PM

As much as I liked TNG, I'm really kind of tired of reboots and remakes at this point... besides, they couldn't afford Vin Diesel as Captain Picard on a TV budget.  Personally, I hope this is some kind of new story about a new crew, ideally in the Prime Universe.  But I think it would probably work in the Abramsverse, too, as without the obscene film budget they'd have to dial back the mindless action and (hopefully) replace it with halfway-thoughtful storytelling that the recent films have been lacking.

 

This one part of the press release gives me hope we may see this on regular television, at least in markets outside the US: 

 

 

The next chapter of the Star Trek franchise will also be distributed concurrently for television and multiple platforms around the world by CBS Studios International.

 

However, Canada's streaming market is less than ideal, with services CraveTV and Shomi (offered by Bell and Rogers, respectively, themselves both members of the ROBELUS consortium) trying to compete with Netflix.  CraveTV currently offers every past Trek series, and I'm a bit worried that they'll be the ones to get this new series rather than it just airing on CityTV (historically, that's been the channel that airs first-run episodes of Trek up here).  If it does go to Crave, I'll probably just watch the show through alternative methods until it's released to Blu-Ray and I can buy it properly.  I haven't done business with ROBELUS for a long time, and have no intention of starting up again.


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:41 PM

Why do people want the Prime Universe back so badly? What did we leave behind unfinished?

 

Alpha, Beta, Gamma, and Delta Quadrants have been touched upon.

 

The Federation and Klingons are best Frienemies. Romulus went boom. The Dominion has withdrawn to the Gamma Quadrant. The Borg are basically dead (Nanotech virus deposited into the heart of their Unimatrix and killed the "Alpha" Queen).

 

Seriously, outside the Undine (Species 8472) there's no real credible threat left in the face of the Federation/Klingon Empire power bloc. You can't keep creating galactic threats out of the ether either.

 

 

So I have to ask, why bother going back to the Prime Universe? For reasons that would be relevant to the average watcher, not the die hard Trekkie that is fixated on the political climate of the Federation Council post-Romulus.


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:50 PM

Theres always a villain hiding in the mist


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:56 PM

Why do people want the Prime Universe back so badly? What did we leave behind unfinished?

 

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

Give us a universe where Vulcan still exists (even if Romulus doesn't). Where the important events we remember are still a part of that universe's past.

 

(I, quite bluntly, don't care what the "non-Trekkie" thinks. They don't care one way or the other what universe it's in. The only reason this debate exists is for those of us who care about the franchise's history.)


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:56 PM

There's still lots that can be told, as the Pocketverse demonstrates, if they get writers with some actual creativity.  Besides, Romulus might be gone but the Romulan Star Empire was more than one planet.  In the past, Trek has almost always focused on the Klingon's arc from enemies to allies; we only ever got a halfhearted tease of that for the Romulans.  There are also the Tholian, Breen, and Tzenkethi floating around out there, all of which could do with some fleshing out.  What about the First Federation, who we heard from once and never again?

 

Mind you, whether this takes place in the Prime Universe or Abramsverse, I fully expect the show to retread a few well-worn paths.  Anyone want to take any bets on how many episodes in before we get the "single crewmember manning the ship alone while the rest of the crew is in hibernation" episode?



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:56 PM

Yeah. Look at our human history and how drastically different the world is now from 80 years ago.

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