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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (05 November 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Announcement! TF Roll Out Short Gotta Go Fast! Storyboard in the works! Green lit Real Soon.


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#1861 Cybersnark

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Posted 19 February 2019 - 11:06 AM

OTOH, the Picard series was apparently Kirsten Beyer's idea. The woman who single-handedly re-rebooted the Voyager novels into one of the best Trek series.

And the "present-day" of the novels is still late 2386, as of Titan: Fortune of War, which I believe is the latest (chronologically-speaking) book in the timeline. The Hobus supernova happens in 2387, and the Picard series is said to be set around 2399 ("about 20 years after Nemesis," which was in 2379). That 12-year gap can cover a lot of changes.

(For reference, NEM was released in 2002, so we are currently 17 years later [in what would be 2396]. This is relevant since Sir Patrick Stewart appears to be aging as if he has access to 24th-century medical tech.)

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 06:11 AM

As much as I'd like it, that's not the way that tie-in fiction works. Nobody involved in producing a TV series to be seen by millions is going to want to be beholden to some books that 10,000 nerds have read, even if some of those books were written by one of the producers. If Patrick Stewart wants the show to be about a lonely old Picard who never married facing down the Borg for the twentieth time, then that's what it's going to be about, books be damned. Best case scenario is that the novel universe continues on it's own, but at a hugely reduced rate. There's only so many release slots a year, and between TOS - which is their biggest seller - DSC, the new Picard series and whatever else is coming down the line, there's only so much they can do.



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Posted 22 February 2019 - 09:46 PM

Another excellent episode this week.  

 

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Posted 22 February 2019 - 11:27 PM

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 11:45 PM

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 11:34 AM

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Posted 27 February 2019 - 01:12 PM

And renewed for season 3. Suck it, fanboys.
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Posted 27 February 2019 - 09:33 PM

 

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This was my first thought as well.


 
 
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Posted 28 February 2019 - 01:19 PM

 

 

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This was my first thought as well.

 

 

The writers have confirmed it.



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 06:18 PM

As much as I was disturbed by all the changed premises in Season 1, it feels craven to me how much they are falling over themselves to explain them away and move things toward how we assumed they should be to begin with.  I assume it means the production team have totally turned over and agree that that was all a lot of mistakes, but then it is a different problem. Obviously they couldn't just start over, but they probably should've said it really isn't the Prime universe.  Especially since some of the stuff they are doing now is shaking up expectations anew.



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Posted 28 February 2019 - 08:58 PM

So this week's ep...

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 09:42 PM

OMG

 

First thing's first.  This week's episode was pretty good.  It was short at only 41 minutes, but it never felt rushed.  It told the stories and they had enough breathing room.

 

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And, of course, the big thing at the end:

 

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Posted 01 March 2019 - 10:43 PM

It was just one of many plot contrivances that didn't make sense in the original series, but I have never not assumed that what we saw on that episode was the reason for the penalty, in story.



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Posted 01 March 2019 - 11:12 PM

Based on the canon, no.  But if Discovery can fill in a better explanation, I'll consider that a good thing.

 

Also, also:

 

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 03:54 PM

Oh and one more thing...

 

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 11:39 PM

 

 

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This was my first thought as well.
 
 
The writers have confirmed it.

Confirmed yes it is, or no it isn't?
 
 
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Posted 04 March 2019 - 11:21 AM

Oh and one more thing...

 

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This was my first thought as well.
 
 
The writers have confirmed it.

Confirmed yes it is, or no it isn't?

 

 

Confirmed that they are unrelated.



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Posted 06 March 2019 - 05:36 PM

So I got CBS All Access for free for three months, and I have finally got caught up with Discovery. I think that the show stands up fairly well as a bridge series between Enterprise and TOS. While I am not digging the look of the Klingons in season one, and they seemed to have corrected that for season two, it isn't that bad of a show.

 

I have my problems with the series, but here are some of my favorite things of it so far:

 

Sarek. The actor had some huge clown sized shoes to fill, as the original actor played that role for thirty years, and I have to say that he does an out standing job in the role.

 

Jason Issacs. Captain Lorca is amazing in this series and I enjoyed his arc in season one.

 

Captain Pike. Probably my favorite actor of Season 2, and seeing him and how he acts kind of bridges the gap between season one and TOS.

 

Mirror Verse. I have always loved every star trek episode that takes place there, and this series doesn't disappoint.

 

Section 31. Aside from everyone knowing who they are, I love seeing them in action.

 

Overall, I am enjoying that the show seems to have no qualms with almost randomly killing off characters. Not because I want the characters to get killed off, but it makes the stories a bit more believable when there are consequences.

 

 


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Posted 07 March 2019 - 04:12 PM

So I got CBS All Access for free for three months, and I have finally got caught up with Discovery. I think that the show stands up fairly well as a bridge series between Enterprise and TOS. While I am not digging the look of the Klingons in season one, and they seemed to have corrected that for season two, it isn't that bad of a show.

 

I have my problems with the series, but here are some of my favorite things of it so far:

 

Sarek. The actor had some huge clown sized shoes to fill, as the original actor played that role for thirty years, and I have to say that he does an out standing job in the role.

 

Jason Issacs. Captain Lorca is amazing in this series and I enjoyed his arc in season one.

 

Captain Pike. Probably my favorite actor of Season 2, and seeing him and how he acts kind of bridges the gap between season one and TOS.

 

Mirror Verse. I have always loved every star trek episode that takes place there, and this series doesn't disappoint.

 

Section 31. Aside from everyone knowing who they are, I love seeing them in action.

 

Overall, I am enjoying that the show seems to have no qualms with almost randomly killing off characters. Not because I want the characters to get killed off, but it makes the stories a bit more believable when there are consequences.

 

 

When I was a kid, I wrote a regular fan fiction series for other Trek-nerds in my school. It was a set aboard the U.S.S. Stardrive and had an ever changing cast, because, even as a 13 year old I found it unbelievable that none of the main characters died/got promoted (except for Tasha). I quit writing it during "season 2" but my original plan was to kill off the captain and promote the first officer at the beginning of season 3. Others were to retire that year too. I planned that by the end of the series, only 2-3 of the main crew would be original. 

 

Actually, one of my cousins was disappointed when I killed off the chief engineer in season 1. Guess I was ahead of the times by about 25 years...


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