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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 May 2019 - 07:12 PM)

Pleasant news.

@  Nevermore : (26 May 2019 - 04:06 PM)

Also, the rising stars are the Greens, especially in Germany.

@  Nevermore : (26 May 2019 - 04:06 PM)

Also, a surprising number of voters showed up to the polls, all across the EU. Which is a good sign.

@  Nevermore : (26 May 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Soooo. Another election day is over. Less stressful than the last one, at least.

@  Nevermore : (25 May 2019 - 05:09 PM)

Oooookay, Babylon Berlin. That's gotta be Plot Convenient News Urgent Edition or something.

@  wonko the sane? : (25 May 2019 - 12:03 PM)

I had no idea the beeb was renting out the dr.who writting staff to hollywood.

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 May 2019 - 11:50 AM)

A poodle, some clouds, and a giant drop of water

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 May 2019 - 05:53 AM)

Was that the one where he fights gamma mutant poodles?

@  unluckiness : (25 May 2019 - 03:14 AM)

The CG in that movie was fantastic. Shame Donkey and Fiona were written out of the movie though.

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 May 2019 - 01:20 AM)

Don't worry, though. Ang Lee's Hulk has made it, so if physical media goes this year we can all die happy

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 May 2019 - 01:12 AM)

It's not on 4K yet. Sure would be nice, though

@  Pennpenn : (25 May 2019 - 12:56 AM)

Probably, when I remember to.

@  Telly : (24 May 2019 - 11:11 PM)

you should buy it on bluray or 4k

@  Pennpenn : (24 May 2019 - 09:56 PM)

It's still not up on netflix. Bah!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 May 2019 - 03:26 PM)

We named the dog "Indiana".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 May 2019 - 03:25 PM)

Happy 30 years to Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade!

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2019 - 01:35 PM)

Truly they are the compleat package.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 May 2019 - 01:24 PM)

Made from the metallized ashes of their previous enemies.

@  MEDdMI : (24 May 2019 - 07:40 AM)

They fight you with sparkles.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2019 - 03:40 AM)

Phyrexians are the bishie-est.

@  unluckiness : (24 May 2019 - 12:29 AM)

That's why they always wear long sleeved shirts and long pants

@  fourteenwings : (23 May 2019 - 11:36 PM)

Everybody knows the most bishie thing about any bishie is his exposed sinew.

@  MEDdMI : (23 May 2019 - 10:04 PM)

*looks up the humanoid slivers* ...really? People were calling those bishies?

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2019 - 12:45 PM)

Have they made a sliver planeswalker yet?

@  RichardT1977 : (23 May 2019 - 10:29 AM)

"DECOMPOSE!"

@  Paladin : (23 May 2019 - 06:29 AM)

will they next evolve into Inhumanoids?

@  Ashley : (23 May 2019 - 02:42 AM)

the original slivers were spikey monsters. then the evolved into humanoids. now they're back to spikey bug monsters.

@  MEDdMI : (22 May 2019 - 10:42 PM)

Wait. Slivers were bishies???

@  unluckiness : (22 May 2019 - 10:40 PM)

They haven't necessarily looped yet. It's possible they're stuck in "yaoi anatomy"

@  Ashley : (22 May 2019 - 10:35 PM)

I think Slivers in MTG have crossed the bishonen line and looped back around to monstrous

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2019 - 09:48 PM)

Maxi, provigo, loblaws.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 May 2019 - 09:42 PM)

Which store brand is it?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2019 - 05:52 PM)

I need to buy more "no name" foods. This pizza is freaking awesome.

@  Bass X0 : (20 May 2019 - 11:16 AM)

SEND THE BOOKS!!

@  Cybersnark : (20 May 2019 - 08:52 AM)

So, now that Game of Thrones is over, when can we get back to The Dragon Prince?

@  unluckiness : (20 May 2019 - 12:19 AM)

Like, half of them nowadays are montages of tweet screencaps from the writer's inbox

@  unluckiness : (20 May 2019 - 12:18 AM)

lol you expected integrity from internet news

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 11:33 PM)

I'm mostly confused how news sites went from "Analysing all the amazingness of Game of Thrones" to "Fans sure don't like this season!", like... way to prioritize clicks over a solid editorial opinion

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 11:30 PM)

[and there's a recurring setting of a "derelict industrial site"] is this like the Toei Quarry?

@  MEDdMI : (19 May 2019 - 11:17 PM)

@Foffy and then that giant lasagna just tipped over and killed everyone, to be later known as the infamous Bad Monday event.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 PM)

Ahahaha!!! Go read the reactions for yourself. To say anything more here risks spoiling the finale for subscribing Allsparkers, the quality of this season notwithstanding.

@  Foffy : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 PM)

pretty wild how heathcliff was in the game of thrones finale, i was not expecting that crossover

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 10:48 PM)

were they still super pissed?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 May 2019 - 10:48 PM)

Well, as someone who is not into Game of Thrones, it sure was entertaining to open up social media this evening to unexpectedly see headlines about fan reactions to the finale. Lmao.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:12 PM)

But it's also a SUPER-well known location in my region, so these extensive exterior shots without any post production alterations completely ruin the illusion for me.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:11 PM)

I mean, I get why they did it: It's an existing location that fits the purpose, it's open for the public, and they had to shoot some scenes in my home state anyway to due a subsidizing deal.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Needless to say, it's not in Berlin, and even what's seen onscreen is waaaaay too modern for something that's supposed to exist in 1929 (even moreso as a derelict site in 1929). The structures seen haven't even been built until the 1960s!

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:07 PM)

I'm currently in the process of watching season 2 of Babylon Berlin, and there's a recurring setting of a "derelict industrial site" or whatever it's supposed to be on the show, and I easily recognize it as a place only a few minutes from where I live (it's actually a former ironworks site that's been turned into a public park).

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:52 PM)

Ever since I went to Japan last year, I have friend who dread watching anime with me due to that...

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:51 PM)

Not hugely, but I am the type to notice places once I have been there and say "Hey, I've been there!"


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#1841 AgentOrange

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 04:30 PM

So can people stop bitching about the Klingons now?
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Posted 01 February 2019 - 10:04 PM

This week's episode moved stories forward but didn't so much have a main story all its own.  The Klingon drama was the A-story but it was largely table-setting.  It was some good, old-fashioned Klingon drama.

 

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The show is actively addressing continuity concerns from last season.
 

 

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Good episode.  Not a traditional episode like last week, but it felt less rushed and moved things forward.

 

Somebody has surely done a L'Oreal L'rell Photoshop, right?


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Posted 02 February 2019 - 03:30 PM

I made the mistake of attempting to watch videos about Discovery on YouTube and I've discovered that Trekkies and Discovery are at least on par with the Disney ruined Star Wars and Michael Bay raped my childhood crowd. Really makes me hope classic Trek never returns.
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Posted 02 February 2019 - 03:38 PM

Yeah, they're damned awful. We got the same type of 'fan' mouthing off from Doctor Who fandom when Jodie Whittaker took over as the Doctor, and they haven't shut up since.
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Posted 02 February 2019 - 05:40 PM

I might actually be warming up to this show.  It still needs to learn how to balance the unrestrained CG fluff with stuff that actually moves the story forward, but episode 1 of Season 2 has left me with a far nicer taste in my mouth.

 

Shame that it's stuck behind a paywall.


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Posted 03 February 2019 - 12:37 PM

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Still waiting for them to find an excuse for Stamets to sing on the show. Mushroom samba or something.
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Posted 04 February 2019 - 09:12 AM

 

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Even at the time, the producers basically said 'we didn't have time or money to do a new older Klingon ship, imagine that it's a D4'.



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Posted 08 February 2019 - 06:27 PM

Midnight's Edge explains how the licensing split happened and why Discovery looks the way it does. It's fascinating the legal hoops they all had to go through.

 

TL;DW, it's Sumner Redstone's fault.

 


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Posted 08 February 2019 - 07:27 PM

Midnight's Edge explains how the licensing split happened and why Discovery looks the way it does. It's fascinating the legal hoops they all had to go through.

 

TL;DW, it's Sumner Redstone's fault.

 

 

Fundamental error at 24:47. Discovery was not created by Paramount, but by CBS, and I have seen no evidence to lead me to believe that it's under Paramount's license. I have little reason to trust anything that comes after this point.


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Posted 08 February 2019 - 10:01 PM

This week, Discovery again juggled three plots.  The A-story was a very classically Star Treky story.

 

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This week in Fixing Continuity:

 

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It was another very satisfying episode.  Season 2 seems very much to be course-correcting from season 1.  As much as I enjoyed season 1, I think I'm enjoying season 2 a bit more.  The lighter tone is more approachable, and I don't have so much of a fear that they're going to seriously screw this up.



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Posted 13 February 2019 - 10:19 AM

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 12:04 PM

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Makes sense, in a retcon sort of way.

 

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 01:28 PM

I have now read all available Discovery novels (next one is coming out in July).

Desperate Hours by David Mack: A team-up between the Shenzhou and the Enterprise commanded by a young and untested Christopher Pike, and featuring Burnham, Saru, Number One, and Spock. The first DSC novel, written before the series launched, and this has the early-installment weirdness that inevitably comes from being based on a script rather than the final performances. A respectable start, though sadly utterly removed from canon thanks to season 2 (honestly, I'd rather have kept DH).

Drastic Measures by Dayton Ward: A pre-Shenzhou flashback, involving then-Commander Georgiou and then-Lieutenant Lorca dealing with the Tarsus IV tragedy and trying to hunt down Kodos the Executioner (making a smooth integration with what we know from TOS). This is, so far, our only look at Lorca Prime, who proves to be not too different from the version we got to know, though much more conflicted about his aggressive side. Georgiou meets a very young James Kirk. Aside from an unfortunate fridging (Lorca loses someone in the massacre), this is a good character piece for those wanting more Georgiou.

Fear Itself by James Swallow: An early-Shenzhou adventure, showing the not-yet-friendship between Burnham and Saru, as Saru experiments with defying orders for the first time in his career, and nearly starts a war with the Tholians and/or the Peliar Zel (and a war between the Tholians and Peliar Zel. He just royally hugs up). It plays reasonably well with established canon, though Saru has apparently encountered a Ba'ul face-to-face (unlike what Short Treks suggested), though that could easily be slotted into his backstory somewhere off-camera.

The Way to the Stars by Una McCormack: Is a hugging masterpiece, OMG. Aside from a framing device (apparently set just before S2 begins), this is the story of 16-year-old Sylvia Tilly going through a crisis and finding her people. This isn't so much a Star Trek book as it is a perfect young adult book that happens to be set in the Star Trek universe, and deals heavily with issues of anxiety, identity, family (both biological and found), and privilege (both personal and cultural). This is the book I would give to non-Trek fans to introduce them to the universe. It gives us a long-needed look at how the rest of the galaxy views the Federation, and how people in the Federation feel about Starfleet, and why the people in Starfleet would give their lives for the Uniform and what it means.

Also, Siobhan Tilly has displaced Lwaxana Troi as the Worst Mother in Star Trek. Lwaxana may be overbearing, but she has never been actively toxic to her daughter's emotional and mental well-being. All of Tilly's anxiety issues can be traced directly to that witch.

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Posted 13 February 2019 - 01:41 PM

Haven't yet read Fear Itself, but I agree with the rest of these reviews. I especially echo your sentiments about The Way to the Stars. Possibly the most enjoyable Trek book I've ever read.



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Posted 14 February 2019 - 07:31 AM

 by Una McCormack: Is a hugging masterpiece, OMG.

 

Really, you could put any of her Trek works at the start of that and be correct (although I've not read her, or anyone else's post-The Fall work yet). The Never-Ending Sacrifice in particular is incredible.



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Posted 15 February 2019 - 10:06 PM

This week's episode had some bullshit pseudoscience that's kinda hard to swallow.  But beyond that, it was a good episode.  One A story and a smaller B story.  The whole thing slowed down a bit and the plots had room to breathe.

 

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 06:37 PM

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I don't think we saw one in Enterprise.



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Posted 18 February 2019 - 12:13 AM

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I don't think we saw one in Enterprise.

I believe Mouse Pas refers to the K'Tinga model recycling in ENT 1x05, which even the showrunners told us to pretend it was not.
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Posted 18 February 2019 - 05:37 PM

I have now read all available Discovery novels (next one is coming out in July).

Desperate Hours by David Mack: A team-up between the Shenzhou and the Enterprise commanded by a young and untested Christopher Pike, and featuring Burnham, Saru, Number One, and Spock. The first DSC novel, written before the series launched, and this has the early-installment weirdness that inevitably comes from being based on a script rather than the final performances. A respectable start, though sadly utterly removed from canon thanks to season 2 (honestly, I'd rather have kept DH).

Drastic Measures by Dayton Ward: A pre-Shenzhou flashback, involving then-Commander Georgiou and then-Lieutenant Lorca dealing with the Tarsus IV tragedy and trying to hunt down Kodos the Executioner (making a smooth integration with what we know from TOS). This is, so far, our only look at Lorca Prime, who proves to be not too different from the version we got to know, though much more conflicted about his aggressive side. Georgiou meets a very young James Kirk. Aside from an unfortunate fridging (Lorca loses someone in the massacre), this is a good character piece for those wanting more Georgiou.

Fear Itself by James Swallow: An early-Shenzhou adventure, showing the not-yet-friendship between Burnham and Saru, as Saru experiments with defying orders for the first time in his career, and nearly starts a war with the Tholians and/or the Peliar Zel (and a war between the Tholians and Peliar Zel. He just royally hugs up). It plays reasonably well with established canon, though Saru has apparently encountered a Ba'ul face-to-face (unlike what Short Treks suggested), though that could easily be slotted into his backstory somewhere off-camera.

The Way to the Stars by Una McCormack: Is a hugging masterpiece, OMG. Aside from a framing device (apparently set just before S2 begins), this is the story of 16-year-old Sylvia Tilly going through a crisis and finding her people. This isn't so much a Star Trek book as it is a perfect young adult book that happens to be set in the Star Trek universe, and deals heavily with issues of anxiety, identity, family (both biological and found), and privilege (both personal and cultural). This is the book I would give to non-Trek fans to introduce them to the universe. It gives us a long-needed look at how the rest of the galaxy views the Federation, and how people in the Federation feel about Starfleet, and why the people in Starfleet would give their lives for the Uniform and what it means.

Also, Siobhan Tilly has displaced Lwaxana Troi as the Worst Mother in Star Trek. Lwaxana may be overbearing, but she has never been actively toxic to her daughter's emotional and mental well-being. All of Tilly's anxiety issues can be traced directly to that witch.

 

Haven't yet read Fear Itself, but I agree with the rest of these reviews. I especially echo your sentiments about The Way to the Stars. Possibly the most enjoyable Trek book I've ever read.

 

Really, you could put any of her Trek works at the start of that and be correct (although I've not read her, or anyone else's post-The Fall work yet). The Never-Ending Sacrifice in particular is incredible.

 

I have The Way to the Stars, but I have yet to go through it as I have with the first three Discovery novels. I look forward to The Enterprise War at the end of July.

 

It is a pity that season 2 threw out Desperate Hours. Oh well, any longtime readers saw it coming, alas.

 

I somewhat dread the day of the Picard series's debut when post-Nemesis novels get thrown out the window. Those TNG novels, for all their good and bad, have kept me going.


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Posted 19 February 2019 - 09:23 AM

I somewhat dread the day of the Picard series's debut when post-Nemesis novels get thrown out the window. Those TNG novels, for all their good and bad, have kept me going.

 

Yeah, it won't be the first time that a tie-in universe I like that will have been discarded in favour of making new TV/Movies, but I'm pretty sure that Trek will hurt the worst. At least when Star Wars EU went away, it had grown stagnant in just about every area, and desperately needed a shake-up, but Trek Lit is doing some of the best that Trek has ever been. So many great characters, so much potential still, all of which is going to be thrown out for what I fear will be a lowest common denominator series...





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