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@  TheMightyMol... : (13 November 2019 - 08:25 AM)

Do we really need to have Every Movie Transformer Thread Ever in the Squawkbox?

@  Bass X0 : (13 November 2019 - 08:13 AM)

Sure it made money but that doesn’t mean it has appealing character designs. Lot of god awful fugly faces in the Transformers movies.

@  Otaku : (12 November 2019 - 08:25 PM)

@Liege My issue with Transformers (2007) were elements I thought were unnecessary.  I know it was supposed to just be a joke, but I didn't ever need to hear about "Sam's Happy Time". >.> Which, being in awe of the first "live action" TF-film, didn't even register until I'd already purchased and watched it on DVD a few times (after seeing it in theaters 3 times).

@  Liege : (12 November 2019 - 08:22 PM)

For all the Bayisms in the 07 movie, it was tempered by Spielberg as producer. Designs aside it was an enjoyable popcorn blockbuster about a boy and his first car who happens to be an alien from another planet. They sequels are just Bay going unchecked after he proved how much bank he could bring in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (12 November 2019 - 07:12 PM)

I didn't find the designs in the '07 movie to be that bad, personally. What got really offputting was how Cybertronians in general become such huge a-holes in the later films; the designs were very much secondary to their horrible personalities

@  Sabrblade : (12 November 2019 - 06:59 PM)

And yet, Transformers still broke the bank at the box office, opened up the brand to a whole new generation of fans, shot the brand up to mainstream appeal, and enabled all kinds of new collector-oriented lines and other avenues to come about. Not saying Sonic's movie will do the same for his series, but the 2007 TF movie certainly did more good than harm.

@  Bass X0 : (12 November 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Paramount changed Sonic due to fan backlash but refused to redo Transformers 2007 with new cgi appearances based on their classic forms everyone’s knows and loves, and can relate to. Trailer 1 Sonic is as appealing a design as 2007 Bumblebee...

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

I don't. They're a pain in the ass to repair.

@  Benbot : (12 November 2019 - 12:48 PM)

I wish car companies would bring back flip up headlights

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 November 2019 - 09:07 AM)

Wear a hazmat suit. It's Walmart, they're used to weird.

@  wonko the sane? : (12 November 2019 - 07:54 AM)

2 inches of snow on the side of the house, 2 feet of snow on the deck. I hate this winter already.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (11 November 2019 - 11:33 PM)

But that requires actually going IN walmart. ;P

@  Liege : (11 November 2019 - 11:22 PM)

Pro tip for anyone hunting the for the Walmart 35th exclusives: try the seasonal aisles rather than the toy section. I found the display with all the exclusives and a bunch of the reflector wave practically untouched amongst those novelty arcade machines and a bunch of frozen merch.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:45 PM)

Although that does spark an idea for me. In a new continuity, Censere the Necrobot could be the herald Cityspeaker for Quintessa the Necrotitan just to play on their monikers utilizing Greek for dead, nekrós.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (11 November 2019 - 09:26 PM)

I hate to burst your bubble, Maximus Ambus, but 90% of things said in IDW turned out to be amnesiac half-rememberings courtesy of Adaptus or outright lies courtesy of Shockwave.

@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....


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Posted 04 January 2019 - 09:43 PM

The final Short Trek features Harry Mudd.  It's very funny and entertaining.  This is a more whimsical, TOS-esque Mudd.



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Posted 05 January 2019 - 09:20 AM

"Penetration of a space-whale??"
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Posted 05 January 2019 - 11:58 AM

That actually was fun. Maybe the best of the shorts.


 
 
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Posted 14 January 2019 - 01:24 PM

https://www.cbs.com/...ar-trek-series/

 

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 10:33 PM

Season 2 - Episode 1 is a think that I saw happen.

 

And that's that.

 

I do like the new Enterprise.  I can sort of tell myself it always looked like that and the 60s effects just couldn't manage it.



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Posted 17 January 2019 - 10:59 PM

Did you feel like the audio wasnt mixed well? I felt like the music completely overpowered the actors. I almost left closed captions on at one point I turned them to hear what Amanda said to Burnam after rewinding 3 times.
"Someone once told me that Time is a predator that stalked us all our lives, but I'd rather believe that Time is a companion who goes with us on the journey, and reminds us to cherish every moment -- because they'll never come again."

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Posted 17 January 2019 - 11:09 PM

I wonder what this would look like as a Star Trek show.

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 05:49 AM

Did you feel like the audio wasnt mixed well? I felt like the music completely overpowered the actors. I almost left closed captions on at one point I turned them to hear what Amanda said to Burnam after rewinding 3 times.

 

I didn't notice that, but I definitely felt that the producers weren't mixed well.



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Posted 18 January 2019 - 03:22 PM

I'm still trying to figure out how I feel about it. Definitely going to need to watch it once more before giving some full thoughts.

 

I do kinda wish that the intensity was dialed back a little bit, though.


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Posted 18 January 2019 - 04:48 PM

Season 2 - Episode 1 is a think that I saw happen.

 

And that's that.

 

I do like the new Enterprise.  I can sort of tell myself it always looked like that and the 60s effects just couldn't manage it.

 

As I said when the first image of the Enterprise was revealed at the end of Season 1, this is why I get annoyed when folks who want to defend Discovery's Klingons accuse those of us who don't like them of simply needing everything to stay the same. Reimagination is fine. But I want to be able to recognize that the new thing is a new version of the old thing it's intended to represent. Romulans, Andorians and Tellarites were all reimagined from what they looked like in the 1960s by the time Enterprise ended its run, but all were recognizably those species. I cannot see "Klingons" in the Discovery Season 1 Klingons. At all.



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Posted 18 January 2019 - 05:11 PM

I agree. Remans? Sure. Klingons. Nope.
"Someone once told me that Time is a predator that stalked us all our lives, but I'd rather believe that Time is a companion who goes with us on the journey, and reminds us to cherish every moment -- because they'll never come again."

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Posted 18 January 2019 - 05:17 PM

(Honestly, I feel like I could recognize TNG-era Klingons as the same species as the TOS-era Klingons, but I do refrain from mentioning that too heavily because the fact is that I started really watching Trek in the mid-TOS-movie era, at which point that change had been established. I wasn't really paying attention yet... not old enough... when TMP introduced the new look to be jarred by it.)



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Posted 18 January 2019 - 09:49 PM

Well, I feel like they at least managed to not go backwards from where they left off. It was a definitely a bit Abrams-ey - that asteroid scene was unnecessary. I enjoyed it well enough though. I just continue to be glad I've got The Orville for more "conventional" Star Trek.


 
 
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Posted 18 January 2019 - 09:54 PM

The season premiere has a distinctly lighter, more fun tone than most of the first season.  Whether that was always the intent or it's a course-correction based on fan feedback, it's a welcome shift.  I laughed several times.

 

That was some very kinetic action compared to Star Trek shows of the past.  That's not surprising for a modern show.  It felt like they used a TNG season's worth of budget on this episode's effects.

 

The Burnham/Spock relationship is clearly going to be a thread running through this season.  My first impression is that maybe Spock was jealous of Burnham taking Amanda's attention.  But the rift may be deeper than that.

 

What are the chances that Staments will actually depart Discovery?  I'm going with nigh-zero.

 

I already love Tig Notaro's Jett Reno.  She's a crazy brilliant engineer-turned-medic.  I hope she sticks around for a long time.

 

CBSAA's commercials seem to be designed to be as obnoxious as possible so that you'll pay for the commercial-free plan.  They're far too loud and they tend to miss the act breaks by several seconds.  It might work on me.



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Posted 22 January 2019 - 03:15 PM

I really enjoyed it. It's feeling more and more like Trek.

 

It's getting to be upbeat and full of hope.

 

Also: the bridge crew got more characterisation in one episode than an entire season last time round.


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Posted 24 January 2019 - 04:12 AM

 

Season 2 - Episode 1 is a think that I saw happen.

 

And that's that.

 

I do like the new Enterprise.  I can sort of tell myself it always looked like that and the 60s effects just couldn't manage it.

 

As I said when the first image of the Enterprise was revealed at the end of Season 1, this is why I get annoyed when folks who want to defend Discovery's Klingons accuse those of us who don't like them of simply needing everything to stay the same. Reimagination is fine. But I want to be able to recognize that the new thing is a new version of the old thing it's intended to represent. Romulans, Andorians and Tellarites were all reimagined from what they looked like in the 1960s by the time Enterprise ended its run, but all were recognizably those species. I cannot see "Klingons" in the Discovery Season 1 Klingons. At all.

 

Well said. I am not convinced yet that this season's showrunning changes will endear me any more to L'Rell's Klingons.

 

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 01:47 PM

This week's episode, "New Eden," is the closest thing that Discovery has done so far to a traditional Star Trek episode.  There's a strange new world, a couple of mysteries, a moral quandry, and an imminent space tragedy.  I liked it a lot.  And yet, I can't help but notice the shortcomings.

 

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I don't want to sound too critical.  I did like the episode a lot.  I just wish it would slow down a little bit and take the time to flesh out the ideas it presents.

 

Other thoughts...

 

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 03:59 PM

Woah! People in the U.S. can view season 2 episode 1 on YouTube for free right now!

 

 

And here is the relevant Canadian link on Space:

 

https://www.space.ca...rother/1577385/


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Posted 26 January 2019 - 09:37 PM

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Posted 27 January 2019 - 10:46 PM

Yeah I just watched S2 ep 1 now the new Enterprise look hella cool

 

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