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@  MEDdMI : (19 April 2019 - 09:21 PM)

oof, yikes. Good luck.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 April 2019 - 09:18 PM)

We're in the middle of a kitchen reno and NOTHING will be done until tuesday. I could beat a four day weekend with a hammer right now if it meant I could use my stove again.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 April 2019 - 06:47 PM)

Can't beat 4 day weekends either.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 April 2019 - 06:47 PM)

I prefer later shifts myself, but my 3 day weekend shift isn't bad. Nice to work without those administration busy bodies poking around.

@  Nevermore : (19 April 2019 - 04:12 AM)

Yeah, traffic is a plus as well. Rarely got any trouble getting to work on late shift (even with the neverending construction site on the highway), and when my shift is over, there's hardly any traffic at all anymore.

@  MEDdMI : (18 April 2019 - 06:27 PM)

while I don't have weekends consistently off, working 2nd shift isn't so bad. I'm more likely to do stuff before work than after (when I'm already tired). Plus no rush hour traffic

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 April 2019 - 05:03 PM)

Switching shifts constantly is never good for one's health. There was a time when I worked overnights steady for about 2 years; did wonders for my health, as well

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:36 PM)

Don't miss early shift (and especially switching back and forth every two weeks) a bit.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:36 PM)

Man, permanent late shift really has done wonders for my overal well-being. Never having to get up early for work, staying up late, weekends off... a ot of my coworkers think I'm crazy, but late shift is really my preferred shift.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:33 PM)

(My total lack of sleep on that day might have contributed, though.)

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:33 PM)

At noon, it was warm.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:33 PM)

On Monday, we went on strike early in the morning, I was also wearing to jackets and gloves and my toes and fingers were freezing.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 April 2019 - 04:31 PM)

Nope, right now my days are doing that. Frigid at night (Well, just below zero, but still.) and warm enough to be always be ill prepared during the day.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:28 PM)

Today it's so warm I had to take a shower to wash off the sweat after a lengthy bike trip.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:27 PM)

This past Friday I was wearing two jackets and winter gloves outside and took a hot bath when I returned home.

@  Nevermore : (18 April 2019 - 04:27 PM)

Is "April weather" an issue in other countries as well, or is that specifically a German phenomenon?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 11:04 AM)

Well, when you understand the history of the area it make sense. It's basically a series of countries buying the place, moving in, saying "we rule you people now", and the locals shrugging and responding, "okay, you have fun with that".

@  Sabrblade : (16 April 2019 - 07:58 AM)

When did we all turn into Henry Higgins?

@  unluckiness : (16 April 2019 - 03:16 AM)

To be fair, most Americans can't get the hang of English, so I can understand why.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 03:15 AM)

(And yeah, Calliope is a Greek muse, not French, but the street was named BY the French when they took over.)

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 April 2019 - 03:10 AM)

In New Orleans there's a bunch of streets with French names that are pronounced by locals with a more English emphasis, for example "Calliope Street" is pronounced "CAL-lee-ope".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 11:56 PM)

I figured as much for Canadians.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 April 2019 - 11:37 PM)

hm; whenever I've heard people talk about the school they said it the same way as the cathedral...but I guess that's in Canada, so they're probably more familiar with the cathedral than the school

@  Dracula : (15 April 2019 - 11:11 PM)

There's plenty of place names in the US like that. Around here we have an "el doh-RAY-doh," and up north there's a Cairo that's pronounced "kay-roh"

@  RichardT1977 : (15 April 2019 - 09:56 PM)

Yeah, the common pronunciation of the University is probably the reason most Americans don't pronounce the Cathedral name correctly.

@  Arazyr : (15 April 2019 - 08:03 PM)

That's my understanding of how the two are supposed to be pronounced as well.

@  Echowarrior : (15 April 2019 - 07:42 PM)

When I'm talking about the cathedral, I say "noh-treh dahme". When I talk about the university, I say "noh-ter dayme". I don't see a problem with that.

@  Paladin : (15 April 2019 - 06:26 PM)

guessing "Hunchback" just got bumped WAY down the list for Disney's live-action remakes...

@  Patch : (15 April 2019 - 05:56 PM)

We all pronounce it wrong, so no one knows enough to care.

@  TM2-Megatron : (15 April 2019 - 05:40 PM)

It'd be odd for most Americans not to know how to pronounce Notre Dame, considering they have a University with the same name that's the subject of a relatively popular film based around a sport most Americans love

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 04:22 PM)

Three or four more hours will be needed to contain the fire.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 04:22 PM)

Update from France 24: the Paris Fire Brigade says two towers and the main structure of the cathedral have been saved from complete destruction.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 03:57 PM)

One does not have to speak French to know that rhyming with "voter name" is off the mark.

@  Locoman : (15 April 2019 - 03:51 PM)

Really? It's an international tragedy and you're zeroing in on the people who maybe don't speak French?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 03:44 PM)

@Tm_Silverclaw I just read on BBC News that the cause is not yet clear, but officials suspect the fire could be linked to renovation work.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (15 April 2019 - 03:42 PM)

Oh boy, here we go with the U.S.-American newscasters who can't pronounce "Notre Dame" correctly.

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 April 2019 - 03:38 PM)

Too soon to say.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (15 April 2019 - 03:20 PM)

Do we know if it was an attack? Arson? Or just bad wiring?

@  Nevermore : (15 April 2019 - 02:10 PM)

Religion is dead?

@  Paladin : (15 April 2019 - 02:01 PM)

major cathedral burning down on Holy Week is some kind of metaphor.

@  Benbot : (15 April 2019 - 12:54 PM)

Hard to believe a wonder of the world could just be wiped out so easily. Hopefully they can still save it

@  Benbot : (15 April 2019 - 12:51 PM)

Well, Notre Dame is burning down

@  Benbot : (15 April 2019 - 10:05 AM)

yikes I thought the site was going to be down for a while

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 09:07 PM)

So, time for another strike. No sleep for me tonight. Oh well.

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 09:04 PM)

Think Game of Thrones "light" meets Cabaret and you get the idea.

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 09:03 PM)

Kinda sorta, just with more intrigue, conspiracy, depravity, crime and violence.

@  RichardT1977 : (14 April 2019 - 06:37 PM)

So it's like a prequel to Cabaret?

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 04:02 PM)

And man, characters are smoking literally EVERYWHERE.

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 03:27 PM)

Also, full frontal male nudity. (There's been quite a bit of female nudity since episode 1.)

@  Nevermore : (14 April 2019 - 03:26 PM)

Episode 6, and Hitler is randomly name-checked.


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#41 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 06:59 PM

All that I said above notwithstanding, I'm actually a bit concerned if this show does take place in the Prime universe. It would almost certainly mean superseding the Pocketverse, which I've come to accept as the most "official" future beyond the TNG-era shows we were ever going to see, and I've quite enjoyed them.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:00 PM



Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:01 PM

 



Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

 

 

You're just wrong. I thought that was obvious. ;)



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:01 PM

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:03 PM

 

 



Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

 

 

You're just wrong. I thought that was obvious. ;)

 

 

:p

 

Also, not caring about what the non-Trek fan thinks is why the series died the gasping, choking death that it did. Voyager and Enterprise did far too much navel gazing, and not enough to actually keep people invested in the franchise. The wastes of cinema that are the TNG era of movies certainly did no favors in that regard. "Eight years of history? WHAT eight years of history?"


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:10 PM

But will non-Trek fans even watch a TV series, anyway?  Going to see a blockbuster action-fest during the summer I can understand, but will the average new type of "fan" created by Abrams' movies really take an hour out of their week to sit down and watch a decidedly less-actiony, and less sexy (unless they get Mirror Hoshi) version?  Especially if it's exclusive to a streaming service that a lot of people don't even have.

 

 

All that I said above notwithstanding, I'm actually a bit concerned if this show does take place in the Prime universe. It would almost certainly mean superseding the Pocketverse, which I've come to accept as the most "official" future beyond the TNG-era shows we were ever going to see, and I've quite enjoyed them.

 

 

That's my main concern, too.  The pocketverse has recently provided us with some of the best (IMO) Star Trek stories we've had in many a year, and I'd hate for a new Prime Universe show to overwrite it with something not as good.


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:15 PM

I wish they'd just say what universe this show's gonna be in. I am so, so sick of this argument that only hardcore Star Trek fans on message boards care about.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:20 PM

But will non-Trek fans even watch a TV series, anyway? 

 

TNG and DS9's successes in syndication point to yes.

 


Going to see a blockbuster action-fest during the summer I can understand, but will the average new type of "fan" created by Abrams' movies really take an hour out of their week to sit down and watch a decidedly less-actiony, and less sexy (unless they get Mirror Hoshi) version?

 

Considering every single iteration of this franchise has featured women in catsuits, I'm shocked you typed that concern out.

 

Especially if it's exclusive to a streaming service that a lot of people don't even have.

 

Well, that's the death knell of any series, no matter what the genre. As someone said earlier in the thread, it's UPN all over again. And we all know what happened when Trek became a UPN exclusive.


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:25 PM

Lt Worf's Family vacation Risa was just the start


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:27 PM

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 
And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:28 PM

Obviously, the new series takes place in one of those alternate realities where Troi and Worf were married.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:29 PM

 

 

Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 
And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

If I were human, I would tell you to "go to hell". If I were human.

 

 


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:35 PM

 

TNG and DS9's successes in syndication point to yes.

 

It doesn't really seem like DS9 is in syndication much of anywhere, outside the US.  It hasn't aired in Canada for many years, and in googling I see it seems to be the least aired version of Star Trek in many other countries.  TNG and VOY seem to be the most aired.  Has it actually been successful?  If that's the case, I wish they'd remaster it for Blu-Ray.
 

Considering every single iteration of this franchise has featured women in catsuits, I'm shocked you typed that concern out.

 

 

The joke about Hoshi aside, I was actually just referring to the overall style of a hypothetical new show.  They won't be able to afford many of the elaborate effects or design aesthetics the new movies have, which will make the whole affair decidedly less "sexy" than the big-screen counterpart.

 

Catsuits aren't my thing, personally.  Despite the silly attempts, Star Trek has almost always been laughably cheesy and clumsy when it comes to introducing sex appeal to the show.  Jadzia was the closest they got.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:39 PM

A series about an alternate universe Troi and Worf? I could go for that. If the series is an Abrams Universe Next Gen show, Marina Sirtis is on record saying she would love to play Lwaxana Troi as a nod to playing Deanna and a tribute to Majel.

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:41 PM

Eh..I donno Jeri Ryan's 7of 9 or Nana Visitor as Mirrored Kira are slightly sexier IMO


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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:43 PM

 

 

 



Personally, it's not at all about anything being "unfinished." It's about "home." THAT's the Star Trek universe/continuity we came to know and love. It's markedly different than what we've seen in the Abrams universe. And for many, we've come to disdain what Abrams did, and want to go back home.

 

And those of us who actually prefer the Abramsverse?

 

 

You're just wrong. I thought that was obvious. ;)

 

 

:p

 

Also, not caring about what the non-Trek fan thinks is why the series died the gasping, choking death that it did. 

Please re-read my previous statement. Non-Trek fans don't care one way or the other which universe this is in. There's nothing to be gained by setting it in the Abramsverse vs. the Prime universe. It literally doesn't matter to them. It ONLY matters to Trek fans.

 

I'm not saying that CBS shouldn't care about non-Trek fans. I'm saying that what non-Trek fans think is irrelevant to the discussion of which universe this new show should take place in.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 07:47 PM

Maybe they'll do the idea with Worf being captain.



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Posted 02 November 2015 - 08:44 PM

Michael Dorn was pushing for a series following Captain Worf, so it's possible.
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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:08 PM

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Posted 02 November 2015 - 09:09 PM

That would be pretty cool, I admit.  Worf had one of the better character growth arcs through two different series, so it would be cool to see more of him.


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