Everything that went wrong with the Transformers: Prime show panel at TFCon Charlotte
Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:27 PM
Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:34 PM
What if some of the people making the argument aren't referring to G1 if it wasn't what they grew up on?
The full argument seems to be "when I was a kid the toys didn't suck as much as they do now", which when stated always makes me wonder if the person has objectively looked at G1 toys.
I don't think it really matters that much what segment a person grew up with. The point I'm making is that childrens' toys are still going to be childrens' toys regardless of how old the person buying them gets.
Some of the technology has changed over the years, but the need for 4 year-old hands to manipulate it is a constant and yeah, you're going to approach and react to it differently at 34. It shouldn't be shocking to anyone that toys intended for preschoolers don't always bring the same interest and joy when you're old enough to have preschoolers of your own, nor should a person react with tantrums when that bubble bursts. Saying "these new toys for kids are simple and that makes them dumb" is a willful denial of everything they've been all along and yet another rephrasing of the same old "why doesn't Hasbro cater to ME" entitlement.
That said, the bulk of the POV I'm bitching about (yeah, I'll admit it ) does indeed seem to be an extension of the GEEWUN mindset, and I hear it the loudest from people who grew up on G1 and hold it as the best ever forever and ever amen praise be to Nineteeneightyfour.
Edited by Lukeblast, 19 November 2015 - 04:36 PM.
Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:55 PM
To put where I stand in perspective, I'm an adult whose childhood lines were the articulation-heavy Beast Era and Unicron Trilogy lines (with some of Armada's more bricky toys disappointing me back then) and who now as an adult collects Rescue Bots toys and loves them for what they are rather than what I'd like them to be because that's what I expect for a little kid line instead of a big kid line like RID.
No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.
If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.
Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.
Posted 19 November 2015 - 08:31 PM
My Favourite Transformers lines are Universe/Energon & Cybertron where they had that Blocky robot look but still had good joints, decent paint, use of clear plastic, they painted the wheels most of the time and play value and I don't look unfavourably on Armada as I will always adore Minicons.
As has been mentioned a time or two in other threads the kids who grew up on Armada and so one are starting to fit into that happy gap where they have disposable income but may not yet have kids so they might consider being nostalgic for toys perhaps. or if they are a little older they will start to be having kids of their own in some cases and be looking towards the toy isles again for their own kids and notice the brands they recall from their own childhoods.
Perhaps Hasbro needs to think about that still - but then the last Hotshot toy they did didn't seem to be that well received as as I noticed.
I think it's always helpful if whatever the line is that people are being nostalgic about has some sort of presence in a current sense like merchandise or repeats of the TV show that sort of thing.
I'm certainly going to be happy if Hasbro decide to return to the more traditional types of Minicon and don't just pinch the name and slap it on something that is only a bit like them - I'm not overly offended by that - but as I've said before the new Mincons are so different I wish they'd called them something else like "Deployers" instead. - Though I know why they did what they did - I guess I disapprove a little as the connection system isn't a straight 5mm derived one - that even Arms Microns had too.
Oh and I would point this out the old original "My First Transformers" were aimed at very young kids - but they had fully movable arms and legs and so did Playskool Gobots so not allowing that feature on Rescuebots is a choice I will continue to disagree with. (especially as Gobot solved the issue of the arms naturally falling in the right place already) so I just look on it as Hasbro being a bit patronising and wanting to under-engineer the toys to make them cheaper to make after all a Gobot is a really sold toy - for the most part - where as Rescue Bots (I hate to say it) are as hollow and cheap feeling as many other Transformers toys tend to be these days (Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus i'm looking at you here).
That Ultra Magnus is as hollow and small and cheap feeling as he is with the retail price he has - actually rather depress me if I'm honest.
It is along held belief of mine that if you make bad toys and they break on someone then they become increasingly less likely to buy more of them - and that effects even collectors - that was why I stopped with the Gi Joe It got to the point I was afraid to open them at all - so fragile were they and so I stopped buying them.
I can't see to many people being super impressed with the super floppy joints that are so common on Legends class toys or the propensity to break that Ultra Magnus seems to have being something that is likely to make someone willing run out and throw another 50.00 at something in a great hurry.
I guess I can understand why to some parents throwing your kids in front of a games console or other device is just a lot less bother in some ways (leaving aside the evils of micro-transactions).
I would hope that there is still some love for toys in the Millennials hearts though - that they are willing to pass on like a Generation Xer's might have.
Posted 20 November 2015 - 05:21 PM
Did kids have tablets and smartphones when Energon and Cybertron came out?
Posted 20 November 2015 - 05:26 PM
Tablets have existed for a long time, but the utter explosion of the device popularity happened around 2009-ish, so no that wasn't a factor to care much for until this decade.