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@  Tm_Silverclaw : (18 August 2019 - 12:07 AM)

Well then they need to re-release Vector Prime. :D Of course I would accept Vector Prime Headmaster with Alpha Trion as the head.

@  unluckiness : (18 August 2019 - 12:05 AM)

That said, the bendy sword is ridiculous.

@  unluckiness : (18 August 2019 - 12:05 AM)

I dunno, the old one is still pretty good by modern standards and the clunkiness is somewhat in-character.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (17 August 2019 - 08:37 PM)

We need a new vector prime

@  Paladin : (17 August 2019 - 03:59 PM)

just don't leave Cybertron Vector Prime out in the sun or his wings will melt.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 August 2019 - 03:17 PM)

@Nevermore Duly noted.

@  Rycochet : (17 August 2019 - 02:12 PM)

I have three Cybertron Vector Primes, wouldn't throw them around though. I love that design too much,

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2019 - 02:03 PM)

I'm just picturing someone throwing a pile of Vector Prime toys around. I don't know why.

@  Rycochet : (17 August 2019 - 01:42 PM)

Multi Vector Assault mode is what they go into when they think anyone's even slightly infringing on their IP.

@  Ashley : (17 August 2019 - 02:30 AM)

They MIGHT have done it for Star Trek Online ships, but even if they have that'd be a fairly specific category.

@  Tieria Prime : (17 August 2019 - 02:11 AM)

Hi friends

@  Nevermore : (17 August 2019 - 02:05 AM)

So only if Viacom/Paramount has actively trademarked the term "multi-vector assault mode", offered goods or services under that name and has been offering those goods and services in recent years, Hasbro cannot offer goods or services under that name in the same category.

@  Nevermore : (17 August 2019 - 02:04 AM)

And they need to be consistently used on top of that.

@  Nevermore : (17 August 2019 - 02:03 AM)

Even if they are trademarked.

@  Nevermore : (17 August 2019 - 02:02 AM)

Words and terms used in dialogue shouldn't be affected.

@  Nevermore : (17 August 2019 - 02:02 AM)

Also, the trademarks only apply in commerce. You use them to identify goods and services.

@  Ashley : (16 August 2019 - 11:55 PM)

Yeah, you also need to apply for it. They might've never bothered to trademark that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 August 2019 - 08:37 PM)

Trademark affects titles and product names, not every word in writing. For example, DC called their character "Captain Marvel" as recently as 2014.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 August 2019 - 08:30 PM)

You missed my point. I was addressing the usage of the phrase in dialogue. Hence the quotation marks.

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2019 - 08:00 PM)

Well, they can anyway, they might just not be able to call it that...

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 August 2019 - 06:54 PM)

It would be awesome for Transformers to have the likes of Overlord and Sky Lynx "engage multi-vector assault mode!"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (16 August 2019 - 06:53 PM)

It is a shame that "multi-vector assault mode" is probably trademarked for Star Trek.

@  unluckiness : (15 August 2019 - 10:54 PM)

Only if they manage to boomer-proof it

@  RichardT1977 : (15 August 2019 - 08:16 PM)

(and would that really be a bad thing?)

@  RichardT1977 : (15 August 2019 - 08:16 PM)

Wouldn't a cybernetic singularity actually remove one or more of the top levels of Maslow's hierarchy?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 August 2019 - 07:40 PM)

Tomy made some strange selections on their first wave of Tomica releases for the US

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 August 2019 - 06:26 PM)

Resistance is futile.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 August 2019 - 06:20 PM)

I would be down for a nice cybernetic singularity if it meant we could actually reach the top of maslow's hierarchy.

@  Ashley : (15 August 2019 - 05:44 PM)

I'm pretty sure the origin of the villains in GaoGaiGar was a computer being told to reduce the stress of the population and it's answer was to assimilate everyone.

@  Maximus Ambus : (15 August 2019 - 01:53 PM)

Executions then followed by nano reanimation then cryonic suspension until everyone you know is deactivated for good so you can build happiness in a future society.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 August 2019 - 01:47 PM)

As opposed to the ones that lie already? As a civilization: we're emotional and socially broken. Might as well have the society that at least wants us to be "happy".

@  RichardT1977 : (15 August 2019 - 11:48 AM)

Or you'd have a lot of people lying about their emotional state to avoid being executed.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 August 2019 - 11:18 AM)

That would actually be a massive step up: since there's a LOT of stuff needed to quantify happiness, and it could only be an improvement over the existing governments which actually don't care if you live or die, never mind if you're "happy".

@  RichardT1977 : (15 August 2019 - 10:02 AM)

Happiness is mandatory, citizen. Failure to be happy is treason. Have a nice daycycle!

@  unluckiness : (15 August 2019 - 01:46 AM)

Maslow's hierarchy of needs

@  MrBlud : (14 August 2019 - 09:46 PM)

Humanity is pretty forgiving if you take care of its basic needs. "Freedom" and "Privacy" don't have much hold when you can't afford food, shelter, or medicine.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2019 - 03:29 PM)

Something something peace through tyranny.

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 August 2019 - 02:43 PM)

You probably will have a house, AI overseers will crack down on stress, poverty, homelessness and human administration.

@  Rycochet : (14 August 2019 - 02:36 PM)

The bad news is they'll probab;y be made and operated by Amazon so will record every single thing you do and transmit it to their datacenters so theycan have human operators sift through it and laugh at footage of you dancing in your socks or having intercourse.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (14 August 2019 - 02:32 PM)

What if I don't have a house by then?

@  wonko the sane? : (14 August 2019 - 02:32 PM)

If the robot will do the cleaning, I don't care if it's mandatory. I'm sick of moping floors.

@  Maximus Ambus : (14 August 2019 - 02:05 PM)

humanoid service robots, one for every house in the west. ETA: 2050. household robots will be mandatory.

@  Rycochet : (14 August 2019 - 02:03 PM)

All I know is it'd be tragic if those evil robots win. I know she can beat them.

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 August 2019 - 01:53 PM)

Big ones? Small ones? Ones as big as your head?

@  Rycochet : (14 August 2019 - 12:22 PM)

The robots are pink. Someone call Yoshimi!

@  wonko the sane? : (14 August 2019 - 11:11 AM)

Yeah, could you maybe be more specific? Are they good robots? Bad ones? Do they just want to take our jobs? We need more information to work out how we feel about them.

@  Benbot : (14 August 2019 - 11:03 AM)

which ones?

@  Maximus Ambus : (13 August 2019 - 11:24 AM)

Robots are coming....

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2019 - 07:14 PM)

my nephew showed me the cuphead rap, and now it's stuck in my head...

@  Hg Dragon : (12 August 2019 - 07:07 PM)

Hershey squirts. AKA diarrhea

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#641 ▲ndrusi


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Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:27 PM

If you compare One-Step Crosshairs to Deluxe Crosshairs, you can see that AOE was a much worse line than AOE.

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:34 PM


The full argument seems to be "when I was a kid the toys didn't suck as much as they do now", which when stated always makes me wonder if the person has objectively looked at G1 toys.

What if some of the people making the argument aren't referring to G1 if it wasn't what they grew up on?


I don't think it really matters that much what segment a person grew up with. The point I'm making is that childrens' toys are still going to be childrens' toys regardless of how old the person buying them gets.


Some of the technology has changed over the years, but the need for 4 year-old hands to manipulate it is a constant and yeah, you're going to approach and react to it differently at 34. It shouldn't be shocking to anyone that toys intended for preschoolers don't always bring the same interest and joy when you're old enough to have preschoolers of your own, nor should a person react with tantrums when that bubble bursts. Saying "these new toys for kids are simple and that makes them dumb" is a willful denial of everything they've been all along and yet another rephrasing of the same old "why doesn't Hasbro cater to ME" entitlement.


That said, the bulk of the POV I'm bitching about (yeah, I'll admit it :p ) does indeed seem to be an extension of the GEEWUN mindset, and I hear it the loudest from people who grew up on G1 and hold it as the best ever forever and ever amen praise be to Nineteeneightyfour.

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 04:55 PM

To put where I stand in perspective, I'm an adult whose childhood lines were the articulation-heavy Beast Era and Unicron Trilogy lines (with some of Armada's more bricky toys disappointing me back then) and who now as an adult collects Rescue Bots toys and loves them for what they are rather than what I'd like them to be because that's what I expect for a little kid line instead of a big kid line like RID.

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Posted 19 November 2015 - 08:31 PM

My Favourite Transformers lines are Universe/Energon & Cybertron where they had that Blocky robot look but still had good joints, decent paint, use of clear plastic, they painted the wheels most of the time and play value and I don't look unfavourably on Armada as I will always adore Minicons.


As has been mentioned a time or two in other threads the kids who grew up on Armada and so one are starting to fit into that happy gap where they have disposable income but may not yet have kids so they might consider being nostalgic for toys perhaps. or if they are a little older they will start to be having kids of their own in some cases and be looking towards the toy isles again for their own kids and notice the brands they recall from their own childhoods.


Perhaps Hasbro needs to think about that still - but then the last Hotshot toy they did didn't seem to be that well received as as I noticed.


I think it's always helpful if whatever the line is that people are being nostalgic about has some sort of presence in a current sense like merchandise or repeats of the TV show that sort of thing.


I'm certainly going to be happy if Hasbro decide to return to the more traditional types of Minicon and don't just pinch the name and slap it on something that is only a bit like them - I'm not overly offended by that - but as I've said before the new Mincons are so different I wish they'd called them something else like "Deployers" instead. - Though I know why they did what they did - I guess I disapprove a little as the connection system isn't a straight 5mm derived one - that even Arms Microns had too.




Oh and I would point this out the old original "My First Transformers" were aimed at very young kids - but they had fully movable arms and legs and so did Playskool Gobots so not allowing that feature on Rescuebots is a choice I will continue to disagree with. (especially as Gobot solved the issue of the arms naturally falling in the right place already) so I just look on it as Hasbro being a bit patronising and wanting to under-engineer the toys to make them cheaper to make after all a Gobot is a really sold toy - for the most part - where as Rescue Bots (I hate to say it) are as hollow and cheap feeling as many other Transformers toys tend to be these days (Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus i'm looking at you here).


That Ultra Magnus is as hollow and small and cheap feeling as he is with the retail price he has - actually rather depress me if I'm honest.


It is along held belief of mine that if you make bad toys and they break on someone then they become increasingly less likely to buy more of them - and that effects even collectors - that was why I stopped with the Gi Joe It got to the point I was afraid to open them at all - so fragile were they and so I stopped buying them.


I can't see to many people being super impressed with the super floppy joints that are so common on Legends class toys or the propensity to break that Ultra Magnus seems to have being something that is likely to make someone willing run out and throw another 50.00 at something in a great hurry.


I guess I can understand why to some parents throwing your kids in front of a games console or other device is just a lot less bother in some ways (leaving aside the evils of micro-transactions).


I would hope that there is still some love for toys in the Millennials hearts though - that they are willing to pass on like a Generation Xer's might have.

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 05:21 PM

Did kids have tablets and smartphones when Energon and Cybertron came out?

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 05:26 PM

Tablets have existed for a long time, but the utter explosion of the device popularity happened around 2009-ish, so no that wasn't a factor to care much for until this decade.

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Posted 20 November 2015 - 05:41 PM

That's... um... my point.