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@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:09 PM)

It's not even a "brand pissing contest" or "board loyalty" thing, not least due to the fact that those don't really even happen here all that much. I'm just happy to be with levelheaded people who've outgrown the usual fan dumb tropes. You can have a civilized conversation here and people don't shit on things only to hide behind "but but but to each their own right?" when their myopic BS is challenged.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

With each time nonsense like this flares up on tfw or on local discussion venues (and it does quite a bit) I'm just reminded of why I've essentially been allspark bound for the last... Fifteen or so years.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:07 PM)

On the plus side, tho, TFW has "appreciation threads" for practically everything, even stuff like Kre-O and PCC. And their toy database is quite handy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

I've been happily posting on TFW for years. Then, after being *here* for a few months, I look back and wonder how the hell I even bothered with it. I mean, my ignore list had hundreds of people on it. Literally HUNDREDS of ignored people. I even showed off said gargantuan list once (with a small thumbnail that you couldn't read any of the names on, mind you). That... that really should have been a warning sign, I suppose...

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 08:03 PM)

Thanks, I enjoyed reading the nerdrage. I should hang out over there more often.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:07 PM)

I mean, Reveal Your Shield. That gets complained about too.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 07:04 PM)

One of the reveal the shield news threads at TFW has movie fans and G1 fans arguing over who has it worse

@  WorkbenchManiac : (26 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

You got me awfully curious. What thread ware we talking about?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:17 PM)

That was a quality read. Both sides of that thread's argument went pretty crazy.

@  Noideaforaname : (26 April 2017 - 02:11 PM)

"When Beast Wars made Optimus a monkey nobody complained" ~ someone desperate for a 'gotcha'

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I want to find the rock they've been under that there isn't constantly complaining about something.

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 02:04 PM)

For the lack if a better word, it baffles me when someone starts a discussion somewhere that's like "Does anyone else not like the movies?"

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

Careful, it might have something to say about that.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 12:13 PM)

I'm gonna have to check your opinion out real good to make sure.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 April 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Oppinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, but mine is better so shut up.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

To clarify on point 1 since I was typing early in the morning again, "you must hate exactly what I hate" and "you msut like exactly what I like" aren't actually the same statement but they're the same thought process which is "my opinions are objective facts." If you see someone espousing one, they're probably thinking the other, too.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:57 AM)

... what.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 AM)

Andrusi, I imagine to some people online, there isn't that much of a world of difference, at least going by the venom they post; although not at RiD specifically.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 08:55 AM)

The scale of liking and hating is an interval one so you can not like something but not hate it. Pretty sure there's apathy and dislike in between there at least.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And humans are perfectly capable of hating things in unison while being divided on liking.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:34 AM)

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between "I hate RID" and "I hate Nazis."

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:27 AM)

On one hand, "hating what I hate" IS "liking what I like." One of those cultures can't be worse than the other because they're literally the same culture.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 April 2017 - 07:26 AM)

I think that comparison is both an oversimplification AND a meaningless distinction.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 07:16 AM)

That's the internet effect. Distance and anonimity make for easy and consequence-less extremism.

@  Bass X0 : (26 April 2017 - 06:58 AM)

I think the aggressive "How dare you not hate exactly what I hate" culture online is worse than the aggressive "How dare you not like exactly what I like" culture.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 06:19 AM)

And now that song/scene and its many many parodies are running through my head.

@  unluckiness : (26 April 2017 - 06:18 AM)

Patrick Swayze didnt!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:58 AM)

lol. As long as they knock first.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

Or as ghosts. I guess ghosts would be acceptable.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:57 AM)

For now, I'd just find some small comfort in knowing those who have passed actually are in some sort of better place.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:56 AM)

I'd find comfort in knowing that one way or another, that suffering would eventually end and a new, potentially happier beginning awaits.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:54 AM)

@LBD At the same time, I can't imagine wanting to stay in even a happy afterlife when fleshies are still suffering.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:49 AM)

Celebrating and welcoming death just gives them more ideological hoops to justify killing others. So yeah, no thanks.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

The idea of death doesn't bother me so much as no longer existing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:48 AM)

at the very least, my body will feed the grass which feeds the antelope which feeds the lio- ....wait

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Yeah, that's kind of the thing.

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:47 AM)

Some cultures celebrate/welcome death (of course, those also have some form of afterlife)

@  wonko the sane? : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

You shouldn't be. What with having absolutely no knowledge or control over it.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:45 AM)

Death is scary, which is why we either spend our lives avoiding the subject or staying up late overthinking it.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

"Never did want to live forever." I'm more bothered about what -- if anything -- is next.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:44 AM)

Though I think the brain is a finite storage space so you'd probably start forgetting so much after some point it'd be like a new person transitioning in every few centuries. That'd be a good reason to keep a diary.

@  2017 : (26 April 2017 - 05:43 AM)

I think immortality is possible biologically in the future, or at least living for vastly longer spans of time. I'd personally be happy to live at least a few thousand years, but I'd aim for forever.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:34 AM)

@MEDdMI Oh man, that bugs me all the time.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 April 2017 - 05:33 AM)

Well, yesterday was a depressing bout of thinking I was going to get TR Hot Rod and then not getting TR Hot Rod after all (among other things).

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

Which is also something that bugs me about the "your dead loved ones are always watching you" concept. Do you mind? I'd like a little privacy, please!

@  MEDdMI : (26 April 2017 - 05:30 AM)

Even if it was possible, I can't help but think people would skip to the "good" parts, like sex.


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#1 ZacWilliam1

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 03:12 PM

Just a rumor right now:

http://screencrush.c...hare_mobile_top

I'd love it for this to be true. I really love the Hulk (own every issue) and I've realy enjoyed the Thor movies. They're among my favorite Marvel films.

Now sure, In my dreams I'd give the Hulk another solo film (based on Peter David's classic Gamma Bomb story vs the Leader and Sheild) but barring that this could be really fun. Marvel loves doing different genre-bending versions of the superhero story. A Thor & Hulk buddy film would be absolutely awesome. :)


-ZacWilliam, in my dream Hulk films I'd also do a Grey Hulk film and Pantheon Hulk film, spin a She-Hulk off of one of those and only then the often speculated Planet Hulk, but that all seems unlikely so I guess I'll just dream of a Hulk out of water in Asgard Thor/Hulk buddy flick for now. :)

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 03:34 PM

This could be, if true, really make Thor Ragnarok really cool.

I too would like one or more solo Hulk films. Except i would really prefer they steer well clear of Planet Hulk. I've just always found the idea of the best and brightest "Heroes" declaring the Hulk too unstable for Earth, and then shooting him off into space makes the good guys far less noble than i like.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 04:32 PM

The Hulk really needs another movie that isn't just another Avengers movie.


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Posted 12 October 2015 - 06:11 PM

I too would like one or more solo Hulk films. Except i would really prefer they steer well clear of Planet Hulk. I've just always found the idea of the best and brightest "Heroes" declaring the Hulk too unstable for Earth, and then shooting him off into space makes the good guys far less noble than i like.


I feel like you could do the bulk of Planet Hulk without that. Maybe Loki drops him there after Ragnarok or Thanos flings him there in one of the Infinity movies. Or someone does something that sends him on a rampage like the Witch did and they have no choice. I think the movies change enough parts of stories that you could make it work without making Tony and company terrible jerks.

-ZacWilliam, all that said, I honestly prefer Peter David Hulk which is what I'd really love to see on screen...
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Posted 12 October 2015 - 06:13 PM

I agree with you there Zac.

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Posted 12 October 2015 - 07:17 PM

I remember someone trying to convince me that GotG2 was going to be the stealth Planet Hulk movie.

 

Anywho, there's a lot of rumors flying around about the Marvel stuff in the wake of NYCC (Inhumans is canceled!  Inhumans isn't canceled and Vin Diesel will be Black Bolt!  Iron Fist is canceled!) so I'd take this one with a grain of salt.  Ragnarok can easily be busy enough event for a film without tossing in the Hulk too.

 

And, and just in case you guys didn't know, Universal has the distribution rights to Hulk films (and Namor films too, apparently.)  So basically Marvel could make a Hulk (or Namor) film, and they would own it and the IP, but Universal would control distribution, meaning they would need to get a cut of the profits.  That's believed to be the main reason Marvel hasn't gone through with a new Hulk film as of yet.



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Posted 12 October 2015 - 09:08 PM

Hulk among the Asgardians actually makes some sense, that's a pretty clever idea.  On the other hand, Banner makes a little less sense, although I guess he can pal around with Stellan Skarsgard in between fight scenes?  (I just realized that Thor spends so much time giving exposition that his relationship with the other Avengers isn't very well-defined.)



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Posted 15 October 2015 - 07:34 PM

Deadline is saying Marvel is close to inking the deal with ruff all for this. http://deadline.com/...rok-1201584404/

Huh, I wouldn't have guessed at this one panning out to be true.

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Posted 17 October 2015 - 07:05 PM

Deadline is saying Marvel is close to inking the deal with ruff all for this. http://deadline.com/...rok-1201584404/

Huh, I wouldn't have guessed at this one panning out to be true.

It's a good way to give us a Hulk-centric movie alongside a Thor movie-- Thor movies tend to be slightly weaker at the box office, but give us an Avengers 2.75 (Civil War is 2.5)? Money money boo-bah.

 

Also, Mark Ruffalo is an infinitely better casting choice than Ed Norton. No contest.

 

It'll also be a Planet Hulk movie in everything but name at this point, given Thor's cosmic attachment. Maybe give us a lead-in to Guardians 2, in the bargain (or vice versa? Which is out first?).


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Posted 18 October 2015 - 01:07 AM

Guardians 2 is May of 2017, Thor 2 is November of the same year. (It was July but then the Spider-Man thing happened.)

 

Slapping Planet Hulk and Ragnarok together would be a bad idea, IMO.  Planet Hulk is a very personal story at it's core; about the Hulk being betrayed, abandoned and stranded on the other side of the Universe where he ultimately finds a place where not only is he accepted, but where he can accept the fact that he's accepted.  While you could probably substitute Asgard for Sakaar in that story, I think it takes something away if Thor is there palling around with him. (And if Thor ISN'T palling around with him, then I think the Hulk would be a bad fit for a movie called "Thor: Ragnarok." in the first place :D)

 

Also, Ragnarok itself will need to take up a lot of screentime, so I'm not sure you can really do justice for both Planet Hulk and Ragnarok in a single 2.5 hour film.


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Posted 18 October 2015 - 11:49 PM

It could be just the setup for Planet Hulk without mashing the two together in one film.

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 02:22 AM


I don't actually expect it to be Planet Hulky at all.
I expect it I be a Thor film with a "Buddy Picture/Fish out of Water" hulk element thrown in for fun,

-ZacWilliam, having the hulk in it is going to be less than some folks imagine. Mostly I think it'll tie up the Thor/King Loki story and the hulk will just just be a smaller side part of that story.
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Posted 19 October 2015 - 11:47 AM

we may have a pay off from Avengers 1 that alluded to Loki controlling or looking to guide the hulk coming to fruitition - but that's just spitballing on my case.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 12:03 PM

Ehhh... We just saw Hulk being controlled in a major scene in his last movie, it's a little too soon to go to that well again.

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 12:10 PM

Perhaps, if they do set up a Planet Hulk film, instead of it being the Avengers who ship Hulk off-planet and that's why Hulk feels betrayed by them, maybe he could be shipped off-planet by a villain and his feelings of betrayal could be based on how his allies failed to save him/chose to stop a bigger threat first that prevented them from saving him. In his mind, he could view their actions as their having abandoned him instead of their failure to save him actually having been something beyond their control.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:28 PM

Ragnarok probably won't set up a Planet Hulk movie, if for no other reason than I doubt Marvel is going to shoe-horn in ANOTHER film before Infinity War, and Hulk will almost certainly show up there.  Afterwards we might see something, but Marvel would still need to work things out with Universal regarding distribution rights, and ultimately, Marvel has a TON of other characters who they could make a film about without needing to come to an agreement.



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Posted 22 October 2015 - 08:13 PM

Maybe it won't be about the End-of-Asgard Ragnarok event and it will just be RoboThor. 

 

That would be so awful. 



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Posted 26 November 2015 - 02:56 PM

Honestly, this is the movie that needs to setup Thanos as a powerhouse and a full fledged character, and not just some posturing, idle guy.

 

I highly imagine a scenario where Thanos is going to take advantage of Loki's takeover to grab the Infinity stone residing in Asgard.      I'm assuming Thor eventually finds out Loki is pretending to be the All Father, brings in Bruce for obvious reasons, and then right before Loki gets another looney tune pounding....boom.   Thanos shows up and goes all Ragnorok on Asgard, requiring the three powerhouses to join forces to try to get rid of Thanos, but ultimately lose.       It would be also a get setup for something to happen with the Nova Corps in GotG2 (whether it's just a cameo thing or part of the movie itself, who knows, but there's going to be something to setup Infinity Wars).


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Posted 20 May 2016 - 01:13 PM

Ooo,

http://marvel.com/ne...linkId=24717778

Cool cast and cool new characters. I love the Thor movies and I love the Hulk so this should be a lot of fun.

Love seeing the concept art of Hela. Love the idea of Goldblum as that character. Love another female Marvel character. Really neat to hear we're getting Executioner at last.

-ZacWilliam, a little strange to have him without Enchantress but otherwise...

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Posted 20 May 2016 - 01:55 PM

Can't wait to see what Taika can does with Blanchet, Goldblum and Urban.


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