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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (05 November 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Announcement! TF Roll Out Short Gotta Go Fast! Storyboard in the works! Green lit Real Soon.


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Posted 18 August 2015 - 11:52 PM

Naw, more likely an Amazon exclusive.  That's been the main outlet for Hasbro Asia exclusives like the Protectobot need-to-keep-those-name-trademarks sets.


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Posted 19 August 2015 - 03:05 AM

I don't see any difference with all other Platinum Editions ever.

Hasbro USA typically announced them months after we learned about them.
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Posted 19 August 2015 - 05:29 AM

I like how the heads are spikified instead of outright Geewun to at least tie them into the bodies more.


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Posted 07 September 2015 - 10:38 AM

First preorder I've seen. 

 

http://www.kapowtoys...nobots-set.html

 

 

October sounds about right. and 110 pounds... so maybe 150-175 USD? 


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Posted 09 September 2015 - 01:12 PM

Up for preorder at TFSource.

http://tfsource.com/...tinum-dinobots/


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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:13 PM

And it looks like Swoop has ONCE AGAIN been renamed:

 

 

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Voyager Slog
Dleuxe Scorn
Deluxe Slug
Deluxe Snarl


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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:16 PM

Hasbro has a lock on the name Strafe.  I chalk this up to a mistake.


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Posted 09 September 2015 - 02:31 PM

Yeah, that's not even Hasbro copy (and they've reused it from the "movie-accurate" Dinobot set). You can see in the packaging stock photos on Kapow that it's still Grimlock, Snarl, Strafe, Dinobot Slug, and Slog.

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Posted 09 September 2015 - 03:00 PM

Too rich for my blood, but I do like the new heads.


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Posted 29 September 2015 - 09:50 PM

The new heads really look sharp.


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Posted 30 September 2015 - 03:49 AM

And it looks like Swoop has ONCE AGAIN been renamed:
 

Voyager Grimlock
Voyager Slog
Dleuxe Scorn
Deluxe Slug
Deluxe Snarl

They've edited it to say Strafe now, but forgot to fix "Dleuxe".

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Posted 30 September 2015 - 04:10 AM

They've edited it to say Strafe now, but forgot to fix "Dleuxe".


But the real question is - do they have Yoagers?!?
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Posted 30 September 2015 - 04:36 AM

Agreed on the new head sculpts, especially since Swoop now looks like some kind of proto-Seeker. I'll keep this on the back burner in case the money becomes free.


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Posted 30 September 2015 - 04:51 AM

I want that Strafe, but mostly to repaint him into (Transmetal 2?) Fractyl.


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Posted 30 September 2015 - 05:09 AM

They've edited it to say Strafe now, but forgot to fix "Dleuxe".

But the real question is - do they have Yoagers?!?

Memories of the day at work we had a problem with an ROTF toy return and I tried in vain to explain to a manager what a Voyager Megatron meant when he was taking it as the character name in a search.

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Posted 30 September 2015 - 06:06 AM

I want that Strafe, but mostly to repaint him into (Transmetal 2?) Fractyl.

 

Well, I'm tempted to acquire a Sludge/Slog/Slwhatever; so we're 2/5 the way to a buying group....



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Posted 30 September 2015 - 08:54 AM

It comes out to every figure costing 32 dollars a piece. That is a little excessive.
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Posted 30 September 2015 - 09:20 AM

Yeah, when it comes right down to it I do like some of these molds, but I don't like any of them that much and they'd just be placeholders while I keep dreaming of something better that will probably never happen.



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Posted 30 September 2015 - 09:36 AM

If I got these guys I'm basically deciding I don't want more g1 accurate Dinobots. Which I'm ok with because these are really nice. I just don't get why the platinum mark up is THIS high.

Then again, I don't have numbers to compare against previous platinum box sets because why would I. You'd think 110 dollars would be plenty, but I don't know. I really want these guys though.
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Posted 30 September 2015 - 11:51 AM

If I got these guys I'm basically deciding I don't want more g1 accurate Dinobots. Which I'm ok with because these are really nice. I just don't get why the platinum mark up is THIS high.

Then again, I don't have numbers to compare against previous platinum box sets because why would I. You'd think 110 dollars would be plenty, but I don't know. I really want these guys though.

 

I have the SDCC versions, and I see them more as placeholders, just like these. I fully believe Hasbro will eventually give us a set of G1 Generation Dinobots, but maybe not for another 4 or 5 years. People didn't think we'd ever get a G1 Devastator, but we finally did. It takes time, and its gotta to fit with their plans and the market. These are all really good figures, Grimlock, Strafe, and Snarl are all really close to their g1 counterparts in their basic designs and transformations, and their movie-ish designs aren't the worst as the knight motif works for them and they aren't so much 'piles of metal'. They do a fairly good job of walking the line between movie design and 'generations' design. So yeah, they may eventually get replaced but till then they'll have a pretty decent display life.


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