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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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#21 Superomegaprime

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Posted 28 September 2016 - 06:57 PM

Two ideas I had and explored in photo comics of mine:

 

1. The future, Autobots rule Cybertron, cons lost, mostly scattered and broken, but Shockwave being the genius he is, creates a time machine, the current leader of the cons sends one of his minons back in time to kill Orion Pax before he can become Optimus prime (merely a test for him) and alter the future, also Sentinal Prime is killed by Megatron once again, who throws him into a melting pool, Matrix and all! Autobots in this new timeline are on the run, to hunt them down, Shockwave of the present/past creates the Predacons. The Autobots spilt into two groups primary, one lead by Ultra Magnus, the other by Springer but things aren't going well for the Autobots while most of the Dcons are off conquering other worlds

 

2. A bunch of cons have gone back in time to kill Orion Pax, a single Autobot travels back to try and save him, while Galvatron attempts to take control of the Ultimate power, the power that can destroy or make reailty its self: the Nexus! History for that Autobot goes a stray in a bad way, while the flames of war are lit around the same time as Megatron rises.

 

I can't say much more because it spoils my photo comics actual storylines along with their twists!


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 07:11 PM

Transformers Deep Space Nine with teh gays and regular Musical Numbers



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Posted 28 September 2016 - 07:13 PM

I'd watch that.

 

But Autobot Lyraflare and Decepticon Bonbontron are just friends Caboo 


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 07:14 PM

I'd watch that.

 

But Autobot Lyraflare and Decepticon Bonbontron are just friends Caboo 

 

just gals being pals

 

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Posted 28 September 2016 - 07:26 PM

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Posted 28 September 2016 - 07:33 PM

The Autobrand is watching you!


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 07:44 PM

and the con 1 too, its a gif 


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 08:38 PM

Transformers made by the crew behind Voltron: Legendary Defender. *drops mic*


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 09:39 PM

I'd honestly love to see those writers and animaters tackle any of the female characters ever presented in the fiction... O_O oh my gosh, get them on Animated 2.0  Cybertonian Sari Sumdac with legend of Korra quality animation....

 

I am in love with that idea Shadowman 


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Posted 28 September 2016 - 09:58 PM

Transformers Deep Space Nine with teh gays and regular Musical Numbers

By "Transformers Deep Space Nine" do you just mean a similar concept and setting or would Avery Brooks be involved?

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Posted 28 September 2016 - 11:05 PM

I'd use the NetFlix Voltron show as an example of what I would want to do. Energetic anime-style art and direction done in the west, in a series that aims to give a tried and true franchise a bit of a face lift. I'd also point to Animated, as an example of the "fresh" tone I'd want to go for.

 

Setup. The War's more or less over. The Cybertronian Commonwealth (Cybertron and the colonies) have been overwhelmed by the Decepticons. Sentinel Prime leads the remnants of the Autobot military and civilians fleeing Decepticon tyranny on an exodus. Sentinel's flagship, the mighty Ark, holds the line as the various ships of the Autobot fleet jump away to a secret point in far space, where they should be safe from Decepticon expansion for the time being. Megatron, meanwhile, wants his fleet to eliminate as many Autobots as possible so he can finish this war once and for all.

Megs' flagship, the Nemesis, attacks the Ark directly. Megatron leads a boarding party onto the Ark, just as the last Autobot ship jumps away. Megatron and Sentinel fight one on one, and Megs beats the Autobot leader down. He would have finished him and claimed the Matrix, if not for Sentinel's protege, Orion Pax. Pax distracts Megatron long enough for Ironhide and Jetfire to lead a counterattack to drive the Decepticons off the Ark.

Nav systems are damaged, and they're unable to lock on to the secret jump point. They have to make a blind jump, or else the Decepticon fleet will annihilate them. Orion takes command as Sentinel begins to succumb to his wounds, and the Autobot flagship jumps, appearing behind the Earth's moon.

Ratchet tends to Sentinel, but the Prime isn't going to make it. He passes the Matrix to Orion, who insists he's not worthy. Sentinel merely tells him that fate rarely calls upon you on a moment of your choosing, and passes on to the AllSpark. Orion reluctantly accepts the Matrix, and becomes Optimus Prime.

 

Optimus now needs to settle what Autobots he has left aboard the Ark on Earth, and attempt to reconnect with the rest of the Autobot fleet (who are unaware of what's happened with the Ark and her crew). He needs to learn how to lead his scattered people in the darkest of times, as well as adapt to life on Earth.

The Decepticons, meanwhile, are scouring the galaxy for the Autobots. The Matrix Flame on Caminus expired and relit, so the 'Cons know that Sentinel is dead and that there's a new Prime. Megs wants him found and crushed before he can rally the Autobots. One of his scout teams, lead by Starscream, arrives on Earth and discovers the Autobots. The Autobots are able to destroy Starscream's team's communications relay, but they now have to content with a team of battle hardened Decepticons who now threaten their new refuge. 

 

Season one would focus on the fight against Starscream and his team. It would end with Starscream's plans to conquer Earth defeated, yet he's still able to send a single into deep space. Megs gets it, and he's coming to Earth with an army.

 

Season two would focus on Megatron bringing the war to Earth. Optimus and co. would have been building connections with the humans through season one, and now he needs to rally them to stand with his Autobots to defend the planet. Things look dire until the last few episodes, when Ultra Magnus, Springer, and Star Sabre arrive, bringing the rest of the Autobot fleet with them. Season ends with a huge battle above and on Earth that sees the 'Cons defeated.

 

Season three picks up with the Autobots about to return to the Cybertronian Commonwealth in victory. But then a new threat emerges. An old Prime, long thought dead, returns. Nova Prime and his right hand man Jhiaxus were thought lost millions upon millions of years back, when their exploratory expedition went missing. It was assumed they were dead, but in reality they were lost in the Dead Universe, an empty void parallel to the universe we know. There their forces slowly went mad, and Nova and Jhiaxus formed what they called the Cybertronian Empire. Now they've found a way to cross back into the living universe, and Nova is disgusted by what he sees. Decepticon malcontents and weakened Autobots collaborating with lesser lifeforms. Yes, Nova will reclaim the Cybertronian Commonwealth, but first he needs to deal with Earth. And this weak-minded Prime who calls himself Optimus.

The season will end with Nova's death and Optimus ushering in a new age of peace for both Cybertronians and humans.

 

Jhiaxus still got away though. He retreated with a portion of the Cybertronian Empire. Now he and Sideways plot in the shadow of a large, ringed, metallic planet. There's peace now, among Cybertronians and humans. But for how long? 


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What a relief it would be to end this all, how easy to fly the white flag and give up. But would I run today, just to die another day? Give up now, and every fight has been in vain. Stand up and fight!

 

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 05:01 AM

Transformers vs. Kaiju: Let them fight!


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Posted 29 September 2016 - 07:35 AM

Transformers vs. Kaiju: Let them fight!


I found some early concept work for it!

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Posted 29 September 2016 - 08:41 AM

In all seriousness, an animated series and toyline called “Transformers: Lost Light,” based on MTMTE, aimed at the Avatar/Korra audience, if not outright done by their team. The core premise is still “Rodimus and his crew feel alienated in a postwar Cybertron, and so hop on their ship with half the Matrix to find the Knights of Cybertron.” Keep that, adapt some of the comic arcs, simplify the backstory a bit for a more casual audience.

To fill a season, mix in the comic’s story arcs with random encounters with Cybertronian colonies/cells of Decepticon resistance for the sake of Selling More Toys. Heck, the problem of there needing to be an Optimus in every line can easily be solved by having him appear in the premiere, during an adaptation of Rewind’s “Shadowplay” story, and during a loose adaptation of “Dark Cybertron” to close Season One. Or maybe to open Season Two so S1 can end with Tyrest? Either way, the second season would involve Megatron’s captaincy and end with his battle against the DJD.



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Posted 29 September 2016 - 01:37 PM

I have two different ideas.

 

My usual personal fanon is a series about various conflicts and battles in the Cybertronian Wars, with a general blend of continuities.

 

My "cartoon" idea is a series of episodes with a general outline on twitter: https://twitter.com/...833152267661312

 

In short, season one would be the EDC trying to cooperate with Autobots in their turf war against the Decepticons. But Simmons is conducting some shady stuff and the EDC is building an anti-Cybertronian weapon, accidentally discovered by Optimus. This comes to a head when  the weapon is activated, giving the Decepticons a huge advantage until the Torchbearers arrive. Prowl makes the tactical decision to kill Simmons, splitting Faireborne from the EDC. Her quest for Simmons' killer becomes her own subplot through out seasons 2 and 3. 

 

Season 2 is Torchbearers vs Combaticons, as Windblade and Nightbeat investigate various Cybertronian colonies "going dark". Optimus deals with the past Primes, and Megatron deals with an increasingly out of control set of troops, and their brutality. In the end, Nova Prime and Galvatron attack, Optimus raises a Titan, Megatron becomes an Autobot, the Combaticons are imprisoned, and the Mind Bomb is brought back.

 

Season 3 has Optimus return to Cybertron in the midst of a refugee crisis and a war. Prowl takes over the Earth Autobots with Megatron as his advisor. Faireborne teams up with the Decepticons, and reveals Prowl as Simmons' murderer, causing him to go on the run, and Megatron to assume command. Starscream, meanwhile, follows Galvatron on belief he plans to save Cybertron, while in actuality the tyrant plans to destroy it to turn it into a power source for himself. Towards the end, Red Alert is killed, and Galvatron tries to use altered copies of the Mind Bombs in a simple plan: kill EVERYTHING. In a last ditch effort, Faireborne links with the Titan to become Fortress Maximus, and Starscream and Prowl unite to head into orbit to deactivate the source of the Mind Bombs, at the cost of their own lives.

 

S1 Cast: Optimus, Prowl, Windblade, (Armada) Red Alert, and Bumblebee vs Megatron, (Armada) Starscream, Soundwave, Ravage, Sky-Byte, and Astrotrain vs Seymour Simmons and Marissa Faireborne.

S2 Cast: Optimus, Prowl, Red Alert, Windblade, Nightbeat, and the Torchbearers vs Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, Ravage, the Combaticons, and Flatline vs Nova Prime, the Sweeps, and Galvatron vs Faireborne.

S3 Cast: Megatron, Red Alert, Windblade, Nightbeat, Fortress Maximus, and the Torchbearers vs Galvatron, Soundwave, Ravage, Starscream, Straxus, and Twirl vs Prowl.


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Posted 30 September 2016 - 03:19 PM

Earth is at war in the future with the heroic Autobots and evil Decepticons fighting each other piloting non-sentient transforming mecha called Transformers. However, this time, the Autobots and Decepticons are human in origin, not Cybertronian. 

 

The Cybertronians are one faction, and are mostly at peace despite being made up of familiar Autobots and Decepticons from previous series. They cannot transform. When they travel to Earth though, they join either the heroic Autobots or the evil Decepticons (depending on their traditional faction from previous series) and learn how to transform.  They do not bond with a human pilot; they don't need to. 

 

Optimus Prime is a Cybertronian while Megatron is a Transformer. The human piloting the familiar Transformers would be that familiar character's traditional personality exactly. So if Starscream was a Transformer, its human pilot would have the typical Starscream personality. Likewise, despite originally being a peaceful Cybertronian, each familiar character from Cybertron would have their typical personality. 


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Posted 30 September 2016 - 03:49 PM

Transformers: Blot Wars.



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Posted 01 October 2016 - 02:24 AM

my pitch:

A bunch of humans as Headmasters.

 

The twist?

They have personalities and charisma! Character! Nuance! One is silly, one is enthusiastic, one nerd? No nerds are big now, two nerds.

Ethnic diversity! Gender diversity! Hair style diversity! And they all have serious issues with their personal lives which cause them to act the way they do. One episode would have them just chat about different musicians they like. Unstated romantic tension.

 

They're on a journey (more like an odyssey) to do whatever and on the way they meet several different friends.

 

Basically Digimon, but when actually making the pitch it's going to sound more like Ben 10 since that series made money.

in transformer terms it takes elements of Masterforce and mixes them with Armada.

No adult supervision.

 

They would travel in a mobile garage like the Rescue-Bots carrier. The transtectors can either park inside of it, or attach to the outside to make the missile pop-out.


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Posted 01 October 2016 - 06:58 AM

They would travel in a mobile garage like the Rescue-Bots carrier. The transtectors can either park inside of it, or attach to the outside to make the missile pop-out.

Please tell me that's actually how it works in-universe and they constantly complain about why do their missiles work this way.

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Posted 01 October 2016 - 01:30 PM

To most Cybertronians, the most scariest creatures to them are usually off world. But what lies beneath.....only a few have the questionable honor of knowing. Sure, there's Mutants, Demons, Trans-Organics, even the occasional Sparkeater-but they're what is allowed to leak to the surfaces. Eldritch entities, corpses with their inner energon dried out and sewn together shambling around, viruses that take over and mimic the CNA from inside a Cybertronian body until mutating the body beyond recognizance, and things which are impossible to describe. The faction's highest leaders have agreed to set aside differences for protection against these entities, keeping certain areas off limits from their troops, while inter-faction squadrons go in to take care of problems. They don't always come out, and those that do aren't always the same person they were before....or even alive at all.

 

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