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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (05 November 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Announcement! TF Roll Out Short Gotta Go Fast! Storyboard in the works! Green lit Real Soon.


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#101 AgentOrange

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Posted 06 April 2018 - 12:11 PM

So we're getting an actual version and not the lame truncated version they did a few years back?


No. You're getting a longer version that's shit in an entirely different way than the previous one.
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Posted 07 April 2018 - 09:01 PM

Yes but its in their New 52/ JL War style and setting. Feels a bit odd having the new style bend backwards to doing the original story and not their version of Doomsday. Cant say I blame them. My understanding of New 52 Doomsday was it was pretty dumb.

Edit: didnt see AgentOranges post on this page yet. But I like to be a bit more glass half full and say that they are going to feature Doomsday beating his way through the league before the final fight with Supes.

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Posted 07 April 2018 - 10:37 PM

I'm hoping this new adaptation is more like the novelization 'The Death and Life of Superman'. The old Superman: Doomsday animated movie was terrible, and nothing like I expected after reading that book.



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Posted 08 April 2018 - 10:38 AM

The mid 90s radio dramatisation of the whole event was awesome too.

Im guessing based on some of clips that youre guess will be right and Doomsday will pummell his way through the heroes, until the final fight.

It is definitely weird to have this in full on New 52 style, yet so faithful to the classic story. Aesthetically, im just not a big fan of the dark, muted colours the leaguers have. Supes just looks dark. Also, didnt these New 52 DCAU movies carry over the comic books idea of Supes and Wondie in a relationship? Because they clearly arent here and im nore than ok with that.

Vlark amd Lois is where Supes should always be.

I wonder how theyll with Supes waning power in the movie. Since in the original it was very clearly set up the Supes body was a solar battery and only had so much inbuilt energy. Doomsdays beats him til his powers literally run dry.

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 12:44 PM

Picked up The Death of Superman DC animated film and about to watch it. I hope its good.

Part 2 will be called Reign of the Supermen, somi'm hopeful.

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Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:16 PM

I picked up the 4K version, myself. No Best Buys near me had it, but Walmart did. Really looking forward to checking it out.



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Posted 07 August 2018 - 05:29 PM

What i've watched so far is pretty good.

I do wish they'd just pretended Supes and Wondy never dated. Since this is part of their New 52 style animated movies, they have to bring it ip by saying they ended it at some point.

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 04:56 PM

Watched it. At the first part, I was wondering when they'll get to Doomsday. Of course when he came, it was a long fight. They could have spent longer time with Aquaman and Cyborg getting beaten up, haha.

Btw, I know Doomsday can adapt to threats but I don't recall him having his bones grow in the first fight. I know for sure the heat vision wasn't there yet.

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Posted 16 August 2018 - 06:53 AM

Yeah they're going for the "instant adaptation" part from the comics a bit too literally.  I mean, in the comics, it took death to actually get Doomsday to evolve so....that was odd.

 

Ironbite-good fight though.


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 04:16 PM

I'm finally caught up with all the animated movies from the last few years. Hard to find time to watch movies anymore without the kids around or my wife using the good TV.

 

This was the story that got me really reading comics. I'd had a few random issues before then, but when a friend loaned me the Death of Superman TPB, it was the first time I'd really read an extended comic book story arc. That then got me to find my LCS and subscribe just in time for Adventures 500.

 

Have to say, I really enjoyed this adaptation. I thought they did a really good job of taking the story from the comics, including setting up the relevant characters for both this story itself and its sequel, and making it mesh well with the universe they've set up through the past several movies. Had a lot of good action too. I think my biggest complaint is that the older Superman: Doomsday movie had a better climax to the fight, but that's more praising with faint damnation than anything else.

 

Really looking forward to the next movie.  :)



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Posted 13 September 2018 - 08:50 PM

Reign of the Supermen was the story that got me into collecting Superman regularly, after years of cherry-picking random issues from the spinner rack whenever it looked like there was a good fight scene. So I'm looking forward to the next one. Can't wait to see the non-sucky version of Superboy finally get animated, and I also really like Steel, Cyborg Superman, and Eradicator. (I like Eradicator's concept so much I don't even mind when they graft it onto Brainiac)

 

I must say, this every-other-movie-or-so animated continuity they've put together is pretty fun. It's no JLU or Young Justice, but it's still pretty good. There's definitely been growth since their inauspicious beginnings with "War" (a faithful adaptation of a terrible comic) and "Son of Batman" (where my main point of contention was how sucky they made Deathstroke).


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Posted 13 September 2018 - 10:52 PM

You realize the version of Superboy in Young Justice was still based on the Reign of the Superman version, just adjusting past his awkward 90s phase.

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Posted 13 September 2018 - 10:56 PM

You realize the version of Superboy in Young Justice was still based on the Reign of the Superman version, just adjusting past his awkward 90s phase.


No, he was based on the idea Geoff John's thought would be cool when he was a fan writing letters to comics and then decided to canonize and run roughshod over all previous development. It's a different version without canonically being a different character but still a different version. And a sucky one.
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Posted 13 September 2018 - 11:50 PM

I liked Kesel's original 90's hip Superboy. His origin was revised slightly by Geoff to make it more iconic (genetic material wise).

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Posted 14 September 2018 - 12:11 AM

 

You realize the version of Superboy in Young Justice was still based on the Reign of the Superman version, just adjusting past his awkward 90s phase.


No, he was based on the idea Geoff John's thought would be cool when he was a fan writing letters to comics and then decided to canonize and run roughshod over all previous development. It's a different version without canonically being a different character but still a different version. And a sucky one.

 

 

Exactamundo.

 

By "non-sucky version of Superboy", I don't mean in comparison to young Clark, I mean in comparison to Kon after Johns got a hold of him.


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Posted 08 January 2019 - 07:31 AM

"Justice League VS The Fatal Five" is next on the docket.

 

 

and DC got the band back together.

 


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Posted 08 January 2019 - 03:23 PM

Eh.

 

Ironbite-while I did grow up with that era I think it's time we moved on from them.


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Posted 16 January 2019 - 01:16 PM

I'm hoping this new adaptation is more like the novelization 'The Death and Life of Superman'. The old Superman: Doomsday animated movie was terrible, and nothing like I expected after reading that book.

 

Man, I remember that book. Loved every bit of it as a kid. Super thick novel feel, cool embossed cover, my first real exposure to the whole storyline since at that age I wasn't allowed any actual comics (the prevailing stigma of the time and parenting being what they were).



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Posted 26 January 2019 - 09:52 PM

Reign was ok.

My biggest whiny nitpicks were:

A) where's Aquaman?
B) why is Superboy using heat vision?! Where's his Tactile Telekinesis?

Luthor was great though. And Eradicator was shortchanged at the end.



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Posted 27 January 2019 - 12:44 AM

Saw the death of Superman

 

 

The novel is still my preferred version


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