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@  MEDdMI : (01 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

I'm genuinely amused/impressed, even if it wasn't intentional.

@  Benbot : (01 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

That's a lot of shouting

@  MEDdMI : (01 March 2017 - 02:37 PM)

Wow, Bass, your post took up the entire Shoutbox exactly without being over/under a line.

@  ShadowMan024 : (01 March 2017 - 02:36 PM)

The best Marvel issue is, was, and always will be Decepticon Graffiti. The Battlechargers are awesome.

@  Bass X0 : (01 March 2017 - 02:27 PM)

ReGeneration was criticised for being too slow paced and drawn out way too long, yet the Decepticon leaders are introduced and dispatched just to tick the box that they made an appearance. I also preferred the single stand alone stories from the original Marvel comics instead of each issue having like four different plots running through it, which didn't make for satisfying reading IMO. If a writer is writing for a trade, don't release individual issues. I also thought the artwork was poor - before, the Marvel comics tried to have the best artwork they could at the time, whereas now they were intentionally limiting themselves to appear "retro", and it shows. The pacing was the worst though, some characters just stand around doing nothing to progress their part of the story, like Shockwave's segments. In contrast, compare any six consecutive issues from the Marvel comics and a whole lot more happens than in RG1. Furman also fell into his pattern of wasting space world building and pointless scenes when the story had to end at #100.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 02:10 PM)

Even then, Furman's material never really had a huge toy-push aspect to it, other than "here's new character!"

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 02:09 PM)

Considering it was a wrap-up for a story whose toyline had ended anyway, I feel like it worked out well enough. I mean, the last major iteration did play an important part in things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (01 March 2017 - 02:04 PM)

New comics didn't need to shill any toys at all...so there wasn't any push to do weird and different things.

@  Steevy Maximus : (01 March 2017 - 02:03 PM)

The big problem is that stuff like the old comics were produced under the idea of shilling toys...which ultimately resulted in a lot of the weirdness people remember

@  Rycochet : (01 March 2017 - 02:01 PM)

He was hired to write an exercise in nostalgia and that's what he produced.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (01 March 2017 - 01:38 PM)

Speaking of Marvel, finally read the rest of ReGeneration One, thanks to a Comixology sale. I... don't understand the hate.

@  lastmaximal : (28 February 2017 - 09:09 PM)

Works for some, not all. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Trademark

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 08:57 PM)

Yeah, making it "Autobot X" seems to be their way of getting around many of those issues with overly generic terms

@  Rycochet : (28 February 2017 - 08:41 PM)

Hasbro would just call the toys Marvel's Thunderstrike or Autobot/Decepticon Thunderstrike.

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 08:19 PM)

D.C. owns Bumblebee and they've made toys of her, so if a Mattel licensee can share names with a TF...

@  Telly : (28 February 2017 - 07:42 PM)

doesnt marvel own that? i know theyve got the comic character, not sure about the name for toys though. there ever been a thunderstrike figure? would it even be in the same area as a tf name?

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:38 PM)

You know, "Thunderstrike" would actually be a pretty kickass TF name! Surprised it's never been used!

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:27 PM)

Thunderstruck.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:25 PM)

How about Thunderblust? http://gatherer.wiza...iverseid=157411

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:23 PM)

Or Shockburninator, who turns into a satellite and a dragon.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

Burninationblastatron

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

It's Thunderblast, but she turns into a wingaling dragon instead of "transforming" into a boat.

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 07:22 PM)

Thunderburninator.

@  Waspinator : (28 February 2017 - 07:20 PM)

You need to get "blast" in there somewhere

@  ShadowMan024 : (28 February 2017 - 11:26 AM)

THATCH-ROOF COTTAGEEEEEEEEES

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 February 2017 - 03:06 AM)

Only if the packaging looks like a thatch-roofed cottage.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 09:27 PM)

They need to make a dragonbot named "Burninatron."

@  BlackMax : (27 February 2017 - 09:15 PM)

I find upcoming Last Knght's Steelbane sexy. A very Skyrim name for a giant robot who is also a dragon? Be still my heart.

@  MEDdMI : (27 February 2017 - 06:24 PM)

I never found most Hollywood heartthrobs sexy, even if they were around my age. I think I knew even back then that the char they play doesn't reflect how the actor really looks/behaves.

@  Rycochet : (27 February 2017 - 06:11 PM)

The only thing I've seen with Megan Fox in is the Jonah Hex movie... She was bad, but everyone and everything was bad.

@  RichardT1977 : (27 February 2017 - 05:53 PM)

Modern western culture, ladies and gentlemen...

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:50 PM)

Ha! You can't fool a true Z-block afficionado like me! That's actually an S-block viewed from behind!

@  The Doctor Who : (27 February 2017 - 04:36 PM)

*unveils a Tetris Z-Block in moody lighting* Not at aaaaall?

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:27 PM)

That would be silly.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:26 PM)

Because I definitely wasn't. Nope. Not at all.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 February 2017 - 04:26 PM)

Am I the only straight male Nintendo fan who was never strangely aroused by the Tetris Z-block?

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:28 PM)

Her acting makes her come across as a living Pat Lee illustration.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:27 PM)

No. No, you're not.

@  Bass X0 : (27 February 2017 - 01:26 PM)

And am I the only straight male Transformers fan who never found Megan Fox attractive?

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:21 PM)

Especially since she's the same age as my parents.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:19 PM)

It's like I instinctually knew that by the time I watched the movies, it'd be weird since IRL she was way older than me.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 01:18 PM)

Am I, like, the only straight male Star Wars fan who never had a thing for Leia?

@  Bass X0 : (27 February 2017 - 12:44 PM)

Call the police!

@  Paladin : (27 February 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Kubo got robbed. TWICE.

@  Lazy Garou : (27 February 2017 - 08:10 AM)

god! Thrawn is awesome.he's got super detective skills!

@  Telly : (27 February 2017 - 01:10 AM)

i didnt. not until '83 anyway :thumbsup

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 01:00 AM)

Yeah, that was a hard one to take. So many nerds from '77 on must've grown up having a crush on her

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:34 AM)

I mean, I knew it was coming, but just hearing Carrie say "May the Force be with you" hurt :(

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:32 AM)

They always save the saddest deaths for last in the "in memoriam" sequence.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:30 AM)

I am glad they made the right choice with Best Animated, even if it was a tough call this year.


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#21 skankerzero

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 05:45 PM

Most fans argue that we didn't lose Batgirl but rather gained Oracle. Meaning Batgirl really wasn't a very good character before that.


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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:05 PM

Barbra's Batgirl didn't really become a good character till post KJ media started working with her. Batgirl the identity didn't become a good character till others took up the mantle (both Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown). Its kinda like Death in the Family, the whole reason they did something 'bad' to her was a lack of popularity at least that's how it seems, just without a possibly rigged vote.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:30 AM

out August 2nd. 

 

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 10:25 AM

Can't wait to see this hanging out in the kids DVD section at Walmart alongside The Lego Movie and Dreamworks Dragons :p



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 04:22 PM

So, how do you take this awesome premise and completely hug it up? 
 
 
 
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Posted 24 July 2016 - 05:07 AM

I just hope they rework some of the more needlessly heinous aspects of it.

 
They'll rework them.
 
Rework them to be more heinous.

ha ha ha ha ha ha

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 06:52 AM

As i said in the 'Has DC Done Something Stupid' thread. I have now lost any desire to watch The Killing Joke.

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 07:40 AM

 

So, how do you take this awesome premise and completely hug it up?
 
 
 
Spoiler

 

That's not even the worst part:

 

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Barney: Hey, Homer, you're late for English!
Homer: Pffft, English. Who needs that. I'm never going to England. 


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 09:54 AM

It is. Its Batman laughing at the Joker.

What did they do?

EDIT:

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Edited by GodSentinelOmega, 24 July 2016 - 10:11 AM.

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 02:29 PM

It is. Its Batman laughing at the Joker.

What did they do?

 

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Homer: Pffft, English. Who needs that. I'm never going to England. 


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Posted 25 July 2016 - 05:29 PM

Big ol' piles of Nope.

 

Also, is the animation meant to be this bad? I mean, it's not even evoking the style of the comic, but especially around Joker's mouth is looks distinctly...unrefined.


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Posted 25 July 2016 - 08:22 PM

The musical sequence was fantastic

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 10:09 PM

Also, is the animation meant to be this bad? I mean, it's not even evoking the style of the comic, but especially around Joker's mouth is looks distinctly...unrefined.

 

Eh, I've seen worse, but I can understand finding it mediocre. As to why, as Mike Toole said in a column he posted on ANN today:

 

They've diminished in quality somewhat since the producers opted to start using Moi Animation instead of the artistically superior Telecom Animated Films as their animation unit.

 

And apparently Telecom Animated Films is a subsidiary of or works extensively with Tokyo Movie Shinsha, or TMS Entertainment, so that would explain the drop in quality!

 

EDIT: According to folks on Toonzone, the animation was done by the Answer Studio in Japan. Surprising, as I loved their work on Transformers Animated, but it is what it is.


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Posted 25 July 2016 - 11:05 PM

for hug's sake timm


 

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 12:08 AM

It is. Its Batman laughing at the Joker.

What did they do?
 

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So the video is the exact final scene? The comic page has the interpretation that Batman holds Joker and ... stops the laughter permanently. Hence no SFX at the last panel and the explanation for the title the Killing Joke.

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 02:24 AM

And Bruce Timms response to all this: http://www.gamesrada...tgirl-prologue/

Really? Really!

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Also, saying 'we knew this was a controversial choice' is not a justification!

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 03:27 AM


"We were aware that it’s a little risky. There’s definitely some stuff in that first part of the movie that’s going to be controversial. Here’s where we came down on that specific issue: It was really important to us to show that both of the characters make some pretty big mistakes. I mean, his “parental skills” aren’t that great. Maybe never having had any kids of his own, he doesn’t realize that if you tell a kid to not do something, they’re going to want to do it even more. And then she makes some mistakes and then he kind of overreacts to her mistakes and then she overreacts to his overreaction. So it’s very human; it’s a very understandable story. It’s tricky because it’s messy, because relationships are sometimes messy. But to me and to [co-producer] Alan Burnett and to [screenwriter] Brian Azzarello, Alan and Brian, it was all very fascinating to us to explore that angle".

 

Did...did Bruce Timm just blame Barbara?


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 04:13 AM

It's stupid and it's reductive and it's creepy, and it adds nothing to either character.

hug Timm with a ten foot pole.


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 08:14 AM

I already got the iTunes version of this. I plan on watching it tonight. It was my most anticipated comic movie of the year. Killing Joke has been one story I've been dying for them to do. I was planning on getting the HD iTunes version plus whatever BluRay release they did...like...please oh please oh please have a Blu Ray with figurine and mini-comic pack-in.

Now? Meh! I got the SD iTunes version just because I waited too long and I still want to see it once they get past this prologue. But I absolutely won't get the Blu Ray and even saving $$ by getting the SD instead of HD has me feeling like I spent too much.

I've never been a fan of this Bruce/Barbara ship.
1. Age difference
2. Authority figure
3. Barbara has always been paired with Grayson
4. You just don't hug your best friends daughter

Just...eww!

I mean...how do you hug up an animated Batman feature with Kevin Conroy, Mark Hammel, Tara Strong, based off one of the top Batman stories ever...just...how do you hug that up.

I'm still planning on watching it tonight. But I've gone from "can't wait, this is gonna be the best thing ever," to "this is going to hurt me."
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Posted 26 July 2016 - 12:42 PM

haven't seen the eps in a long time but supposedly when Batgirl started in the cartoon, she was fantasizing about Batman.



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