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@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)

lewd

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.


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#21 skankerzero

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Posted 28 April 2016 - 05:45 PM

Most fans argue that we didn't lose Batgirl but rather gained Oracle. Meaning Batgirl really wasn't a very good character before that.


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Posted 28 April 2016 - 08:05 PM

Barbra's Batgirl didn't really become a good character till post KJ media started working with her. Batgirl the identity didn't become a good character till others took up the mantle (both Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown). Its kinda like Death in the Family, the whole reason they did something 'bad' to her was a lack of popularity at least that's how it seems, just without a possibly rigged vote.


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Posted 04 May 2016 - 08:30 AM

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Posted 04 May 2016 - 10:25 AM

Can't wait to see this hanging out in the kids DVD section at Walmart alongside The Lego Movie and Dreamworks Dragons :p



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Posted 22 July 2016 - 04:22 PM

So, how do you take this awesome premise and completely hug it up? 
 
 
 
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Posted 24 July 2016 - 05:07 AM

I just hope they rework some of the more needlessly heinous aspects of it.

 
They'll rework them.
 
Rework them to be more heinous.

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 06:52 AM

As i said in the 'Has DC Done Something Stupid' thread. I have now lost any desire to watch The Killing Joke.

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Posted 24 July 2016 - 07:40 AM

 

So, how do you take this awesome premise and completely hug it up?
 
 
 
Spoiler

 

That's not even the worst part:

 

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Barney: Hey, Homer, you're late for English!
Homer: Pffft, English. Who needs that. I'm never going to England. 


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Posted 24 July 2016 - 09:54 AM

It is. Its Batman laughing at the Joker.

What did they do?

EDIT:

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Edited by GodSentinelOmega, 24 July 2016 - 10:11 AM.

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 02:29 PM

It is. Its Batman laughing at the Joker.

What did they do?

 

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 05:29 PM

Big ol' piles of Nope.

 

Also, is the animation meant to be this bad? I mean, it's not even evoking the style of the comic, but especially around Joker's mouth is looks distinctly...unrefined.


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Posted 25 July 2016 - 08:22 PM

The musical sequence was fantastic

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Posted 25 July 2016 - 10:09 PM

Also, is the animation meant to be this bad? I mean, it's not even evoking the style of the comic, but especially around Joker's mouth is looks distinctly...unrefined.

 

Eh, I've seen worse, but I can understand finding it mediocre. As to why, as Mike Toole said in a column he posted on ANN today:

 

They've diminished in quality somewhat since the producers opted to start using Moi Animation instead of the artistically superior Telecom Animated Films as their animation unit.

 

And apparently Telecom Animated Films is a subsidiary of or works extensively with Tokyo Movie Shinsha, or TMS Entertainment, so that would explain the drop in quality!

 

EDIT: According to folks on Toonzone, the animation was done by the Answer Studio in Japan. Surprising, as I loved their work on Transformers Animated, but it is what it is.


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Posted 25 July 2016 - 11:05 PM

for hug's sake timm


 

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 12:08 AM

It is. Its Batman laughing at the Joker.

What did they do?
 

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So the video is the exact final scene? The comic page has the interpretation that Batman holds Joker and ... stops the laughter permanently. Hence no SFX at the last panel and the explanation for the title the Killing Joke.

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 02:24 AM

And Bruce Timms response to all this: http://www.gamesrada...tgirl-prologue/

Really? Really!

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Also, saying 'we knew this was a controversial choice' is not a justification!

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Posted 26 July 2016 - 03:27 AM


"We were aware that it’s a little risky. There’s definitely some stuff in that first part of the movie that’s going to be controversial. Here’s where we came down on that specific issue: It was really important to us to show that both of the characters make some pretty big mistakes. I mean, his “parental skills” aren’t that great. Maybe never having had any kids of his own, he doesn’t realize that if you tell a kid to not do something, they’re going to want to do it even more. And then she makes some mistakes and then he kind of overreacts to her mistakes and then she overreacts to his overreaction. So it’s very human; it’s a very understandable story. It’s tricky because it’s messy, because relationships are sometimes messy. But to me and to [co-producer] Alan Burnett and to [screenwriter] Brian Azzarello, Alan and Brian, it was all very fascinating to us to explore that angle".

 

Did...did Bruce Timm just blame Barbara?


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 04:13 AM

It's stupid and it's reductive and it's creepy, and it adds nothing to either character.

hug Timm with a ten foot pole.


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Posted 26 July 2016 - 08:14 AM

I already got the iTunes version of this. I plan on watching it tonight. It was my most anticipated comic movie of the year. Killing Joke has been one story I've been dying for them to do. I was planning on getting the HD iTunes version plus whatever BluRay release they did...like...please oh please oh please have a Blu Ray with figurine and mini-comic pack-in.

Now? Meh! I got the SD iTunes version just because I waited too long and I still want to see it once they get past this prologue. But I absolutely won't get the Blu Ray and even saving $$ by getting the SD instead of HD has me feeling like I spent too much.

I've never been a fan of this Bruce/Barbara ship.
1. Age difference
2. Authority figure
3. Barbara has always been paired with Grayson
4. You just don't hug your best friends daughter

Just...eww!

I mean...how do you hug up an animated Batman feature with Kevin Conroy, Mark Hammel, Tara Strong, based off one of the top Batman stories ever...just...how do you hug that up.

I'm still planning on watching it tonight. But I've gone from "can't wait, this is gonna be the best thing ever," to "this is going to hurt me."
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Posted 26 July 2016 - 12:42 PM

haven't seen the eps in a long time but supposedly when Batgirl started in the cartoon, she was fantasizing about Batman.

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