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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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#1 Undead Scottsman

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 06:01 PM

So Marvel is going to be spilling the beans on their upcoming, post-Secret Wars relaunch in an "All-New, All-Different Marvel Previews" print magazine set to arrive in comic shops on July 1, but in the meantime they've been releasing info and promos.  The biggest thing they've emphasized is that it is not a reboot.

 

So far they've put out some images of prominent characters from the relaunch  The first is fairly predictable, and seems to be building off the pre-Secret Wars status quo

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(Left to Right: Spider-Gwen, Spider-Man, Vision, Ultimate Spider-Man, Coulson, Spider-Woman, Black Panther, Captain America (Sam Wilson), Steve Rogers (Still Old), Iron Man, new Thor, Ant-Man, Ms. Marvel and Red Wolf.)

 

The Second is a LOT more interesting

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(Left to Right: Dr. Sprectrum (Last surviving member of the Justice League analog known as the Great Society), Rocket Raccoon, Hyperion (likely the Hyperion from Hickman's Avengers run), Daredevil, Dr. Strange (Battle Axe!!), Citizen V (Most known for being Baron Zemo's secret identity when he created the Thunderbolts), the Thing (sporting Guardians of the Galaxy duds), Karnak (of the Inhumans; Not Doom), Inferno (from the recent Inhumans ongoing), Iron Man again, Medusa, Wolverine (X-23), Star-Lord and Old Man Logan.

 

Also they recently spilled the beans about the new Invincible Iron Man; it'll be written by Bendis and drawn by Marquez, and the person taking up the armor will be

Spoiler

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More updates to come, including a new Hulk and more about the mutants.


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Posted 06 June 2015 - 06:21 PM

What's Rocket holding in his had? Is it censored, or is it supposed to look like that?

 

Wolverine is cool, but I'm eager to see more new stuff, or confirmation that more obscure characters I care about are still around.




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Posted 06 June 2015 - 06:26 PM

What's Rocket holding in his had? Is it censored, or is it supposed to look like that?

 

They're definitely referencing the "incoming lewd gesture alert" from the movie.


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Posted 06 June 2015 - 06:28 PM

 

What's Rocket holding in his had? Is it censored, or is it supposed to look like that?

 

They're definitely referencing the "incoming lewd gesture alert" from the movie.

 

Oh, that's not quite the same thing I thought it might be.




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Posted 06 June 2015 - 07:52 PM

I love that they're keeping Hyperion. He was one of my favorite Hickvengers characters.

 

I hope they keep Tamara/Captain Universe and the New Universe kids, too.



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Posted 06 June 2015 - 09:15 PM

Bendis on IM feels like a step backwards to me, I feel like he doesn't need to be that close to the Avengers again. But I love the new armour design. Hope Tony isn't too RDJ, I'm over that take.

My biggest hope from the teasers so far is that we get something great for poor Black Panther. And that we still have Soule-led Inhumans.

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 09:16 PM

Indeed. Hyperion rocks, and if he were to get his own title I'd buy it.

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Posted 06 June 2015 - 10:05 PM

He's probably going to be apart of the "team of hereos from dead universes" that was mentioned, along with Dr. Spectrum and possibly Miles Morales.


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Posted 06 June 2015 - 10:13 PM

Multiversal Squadron Supreme?

 

Yes please.



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Posted 07 June 2015 - 09:17 AM

I'd buy THAT for a dollar!

 

Or in this case, $3.99.


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 02:05 PM

I'm not loving that armor.  It looks like a teenager is going to come out of it.  It has very "teen" proportions.  So is everyone else (the old version of these characters) going to be dead?  Is this Marvel's New 52? 



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Posted 08 June 2015 - 03:09 PM

So is everyone else (the old version of these characters) going to be dead?

All the characters here who've had someone else take up their title (Cap, Thor, etc.) had that transition well before Secret Wars, except for Wolverine who was just killed off without a new Wolverine showing up and who is now standing right there so we know he's still around. If anything the first image here is emphasising how the older characters will still be around alongside the newer ones.
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Posted 08 June 2015 - 03:11 PM

That's not 616 Wolverine though, it's Old Man Logan Wolverine.


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 03:11 PM


Yeah, as sane heads have been saying from the start it's just gonna be the regular Marvel U with a few things added to it here and there. Nothing subtracted or lost.

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 03:45 PM

Sounds like Battleworld might be sticking around in some capacity, too.

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Posted 08 June 2015 - 05:01 PM

I'm not loving that armor.  It looks like a teenager is going to come out of it.  It has very "teen" proportions.

 

Agreed.

 

Then again,

 

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All I can hope for is they have enough sense to finally bring Rebel into the main Marvel Universe, but I'm not holding my breath on that front. I've been banging that drum for years.


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Posted 08 June 2015 - 06:21 PM

I started reading IM during the Teen Tony era, and I would be totally up for his return. Me and, like, three other people on Earth.



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Posted 09 June 2015 - 12:05 PM

Didn't Teen Tony get merged with normal Tony?

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 05:12 PM

That's the explanation that's been given to me, but I either lack that issue or it's just implied...and besides I never liked it as a explanation anyway.

 

Dang kids now-a-days, and their Ultimate Universe. Back in my day we had Heroes Reborn with steampunk Iron Man and Bruce Banner with long, flowing John Romero hair.


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Posted 09 June 2015 - 05:36 PM

That's what happened, Franklin merged the three Tonys (classic, Teen, and HR) into one when he brought the heroes back to life. Tony once commented that he had three distinct sets of memories of himself growing up, but that's as far as it ever went. And even that was buried in a backup story in an Avengers annual by Kurt Busiek.


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