Unconfirmed report of writer hiring to doomsaying about how it won't matter
And this hasn't been confirmed, like, three times already?
Oh, wait, it has.
First one was great. With Steven-freaking-Spielberg at the helm, how could it have not been? Plus Orci and Kurtzman as writers, no way that could have failed. And the same team will be in place for this "Revenge of Fallen" sequel? How could we lose?? Oh, there will be a third? A fourth?? How can I be disappointed three times? Not possible!
Patterns. They mean something.
This. It's the elephant in the room. If someone keeps punching you, you don't expect a hug the next time.
I appreciate the pro-movie fans are tired of hearing this but people have valid reasons for why they feel so negative towards this arm of the franchise and why they don't expect it to get better. If it does, the dissapointed will surely be the first to celebrate. But there's no need to make out like all we're doing is being negative with no reason. Further to that, the 'if you dislike, just avoid all threads about it' argument only cuts it so far. Are the pro-movie fans constantly staying out of threads about the toys, shows and comics they personally dislike? I very much doubt that. Having constructive negative criticism is a valid response and trying to throw strawmen at people of a different opinion doesn't help foster the measured dialogue you claim to want to have.
You can expect a hug after being punched if you're a battered wife. Or an abused child. Or (bottom line), have a vested interest in what/who has been punching you to want a hug from them. In this case, unfortunately, this is all of us. No, I am not equating being a TF fan to being an abused spouse or child. But man, oh man, are there hilarious similarities.
But, being one or more of the aforementioned myself, comparably, I don't have a vested interest in Transformers of all things. They are play things. They entertain me, and I am only vested so far as they remain entertaining. If they cease to be entertaining, I will cease being vested. Like when RiD was around. Or the Unicron Trilogy. The toys (some of them) interested me, so I got a few. But the shows? Stupid as all hell, I only watched one or two episodes to get an idea and I've never watched any of those episodes all the way through in any of those series ever again, nor would I ever want to. Yup, I'm equating Bay-verse with UT. Suuuuck iiitttt.
Now, do I want it to get better? Of course! Who doesn't want better entertainment? The optimistic opportunist in me always wants a better option. So I keep up with everything. And waited. And waited. AND WAITED....... didn't happen. So I gave up, because I'm not insane (ah yes, that is what Einstein said). But hell, maybe I'm insane too, because I know I'll not expect to like it, but I will expect to get a lot of the toys, see it in theatres, and buy the DVD/Blu-Ray to have in case I do want to watch it again one day far off, and for completion's sake. I bought AoE, sure as Sunday, but I haven't even opened it. Might not ever plan to. But no, I'm not going to delude myself to thinking it's BEST WURK EHVUHR!
What tops the cake? I used to be pro-movie. Yeah. The Prime show and MTMTE changed all that. And yup, I realized Prime was pretty much the Movie Trilogy fully realized and almost solely from the writers' perspective, unencumbered by Bay's facile understanding of what makes TFs tick and his puerile sense of humor, and MTMTE is pretty much Star Trek, but with robots. Nevertheless, after seeing Prime, I saw the parallels of what Kurtzman and Orci were trying to accomplish for the movies, and how it was jive all over by Bay, but how it played out masterfully in the show. They tried to do this in the movies, failed, and inadvertently succeeded by doing the show, which opened my eyes to how good TFs can be, WITHOUT Bay. I then saw his limits. Now, I can never go back.
Side note, I'm not surprised those two failed at realizing that in the movies though, because what makes TFs tick (at least for me) has always been the toys first, and the TV show second. But going up against Hollywood to do that is hard, if not impossible, without compromise, sometimes utter compromise, except the bare minimum of what you tried to do, and in this case it was: make a Transformers movie. They definitely made one. Unfortunately it was nowhere near where they wanted it to be, if you compare Movieverse with Prime side-by-side.
Reminds me of the typical story of the small-town pretty girl going to Hollywood to be famous, only to wind up in the occupation of PO-- uring drinks for people at Starbucks. What? What did you think I was going to say?
Edited by Megaplex Prime, 22 May 2015 - 10:50 AM.