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@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 March 2020 - 09:12 PM)

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Peritus_Maximus

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 March 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Christmas Maximus?

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 March 2020 - 01:13 PM)

At least the ozone layer is healing. unless this is a 0.0000000001% thing it's sounds like good news.

@  ▲ndrusi : (28 March 2020 - 09:27 AM)

(But only pretty sure, not 100% sure.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (28 March 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Pretty sure y'all were thinking of Fortress Maximus yesterday.

@  Bass X0 : (28 March 2020 - 12:38 AM)

Dare! Dare to believe you can survive 2020!

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 March 2020 - 08:18 PM)

Baja Blast is back at retail!

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2020 - 03:47 PM)

Shame he wasn't around more. He seemed like such a jolly, happy soul.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (27 March 2020 - 02:16 PM)

No, he was definitely Metroplex. You could tell because he was in Metroplex's distinctive red and green coloration.

@  Paladin : (27 March 2020 - 02:11 PM)

that was Leader-1. or possibly Jolt. maybe Grindor...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (27 March 2020 - 01:57 PM)

Metroplex was in Armada, in a flashback. He was the same size as everybody else. I thought that was the joke.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (27 March 2020 - 12:39 PM)

@Rodimus Supreme: Gah! You are right! How'd I get that mixed up? x.x;

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2020 - 12:14 PM)

There is no Metroplex. Only Zuul.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:13 AM)

@Tm_Silverclaw: There is no Armada Metroplex, he was in Cybertron.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:12 AM)

And they'd be better off just retooling Metroplex and Fortress Maximus to be somewhat more accurate and changing/adding parts for interaction with later play gimmicks.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:11 AM)

I honestly would prefer that for scale purposes.

@  Cyoti : (27 March 2020 - 11:07 AM)

They can redo all the CW combiners as Titan Class figures like Predaking/Devastator.

@  Dekafox : (27 March 2020 - 07:52 AM)

They could just redo Metroplex again too. Especially if it's going to be S3 based. They could also do another Primus to go with the coming Unicron.

@  OverDrive73 : (26 March 2020 - 10:56 PM)

If anyone is bored, or interested... I just added the last chapter to my fanfic comic in Allspark Pictures

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (26 March 2020 - 10:54 PM)

And no.. We could always get Titan Class Superion.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (26 March 2020 - 10:53 PM)

We need Titan Class Transformers Armada Metroplex.

@  Telly : (26 March 2020 - 08:39 PM)

ill be surprised if scorpy isnt the last titan

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 March 2020 - 05:57 PM)

Too bad a new character titan class figure is pretty much an impossibility.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 March 2020 - 05:56 PM)

I want a titan class, really good looking bucket wheel excavator. Like Cybertron Metroplex was supposed to be but didn't quite pull off.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 March 2020 - 03:32 PM)

I just taped up a shower curtain and took my first shower in three weeks. It was heavenly.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (26 March 2020 - 11:48 AM)

I would buy that...

@  Maximus Ambus : (24 March 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Studio Series 100 Titan Class Driller.

@  Sabrblade : (23 March 2020 - 09:05 PM)

I'll give ya 25 cents, a pack of gum, and some peanuts.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 March 2020 - 07:35 PM)

I can give ya twenty bucks for it.

@  Paladin : (23 March 2020 - 04:28 PM)

hoarder? I hardly know 'er?

@  Dekafox : (23 March 2020 - 01:52 PM)

FOR THE HORDE!

@  repowers : (23 March 2020 - 01:48 PM)

* hordes shrubberies *

@  Telly : (23 March 2020 - 01:46 PM)

YET...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 March 2020 - 01:22 PM)

At least we haven't resorted to shouting "NI" at old ladies.

@  CORVUS : (23 March 2020 - 11:04 AM)

Keep it out, and I won't reply to it.

@  RichardT1977 : (23 March 2020 - 08:50 AM)

It's a sad world where we can't discuss our health and safety without it descending into political arguments...

@  fourteenwings : (22 March 2020 - 11:46 PM)

woah I have no idea what's going on here but it's certainly breaking the "keep P&R out of the shoutbox" rules (which really should be enforced like... at all)

@  CORVUS : (22 March 2020 - 11:13 PM)

Ugh, Chinese. Typo-city.

@  CORVUS : (22 March 2020 - 11:11 PM)

Rodimus, you're just flat-out wrong. Trump eliminated the Pandemic Response Team. Trump was advised in January that this could be serious, and he didn't listen. Trump spent weeks downplaying COVID-19 by implying it was a hoax, and then that it was just a type of flu. He was late to close down travel from China, and by the time he closed down air-travel to the EU, that was also too late. He has refused to take responsibility for removing the pandemic response team, even though he basically bragged about it some months before. He's also prematurely talked up treatments using chlorquinine that have not been properly vetted as yet, and he keeps calling COVID-19 the "Chinense virus" because he can't help but be a jerk. Face facts: Trump is an incompetent bungler. Period. Full-stop.

@  repowers : (22 March 2020 - 03:49 PM)

That's totally super biased!

@  Nevermore : (22 March 2020 - 03:00 PM)

I'm not. I'm listening to his own contradictory statements.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 March 2020 - 02:06 PM)

Most people don't, but it's still making enough ratings to continue, apparently.

@  Bass X0 : (22 March 2020 - 11:45 AM)

I’m not finding modern episodes of The Simpson’s at all funny.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (22 March 2020 - 11:44 AM)

Trump HAS been working on this, stop listening to those idiot "news" outlets that just spin everything against him out of bias.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 March 2020 - 08:52 AM)

At the least, they could keep it off of Twitter.

@  wonko the sane? : (22 March 2020 - 08:10 AM)

I'm pretty sure the capuchin from "outbreak" would have done a better job than trump.

@  Nevermore : (22 March 2020 - 05:13 AM)

Isn't it sad that President Schwarzenegger would have been the better alternative in retrospect?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 March 2020 - 03:38 AM)

It was President Schwarzenegger, not Wolfcastle.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 March 2020 - 02:51 AM)

He put that in a speech in Springfields 'Do as we say' festival in 2005 too.

@  wonko the sane? : (21 March 2020 - 09:05 AM)

"I came here to LEAD not to read" -President Wolfcastle


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#1 CORVUS

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Posted 20 May 2015 - 09:53 AM

I was re-reading some old comics, and I was wondering what others thought about dark/bleak/sad tales for mainstream characters. You have ones that affect continuity, like The Killing Joke, or The Death Of Captain Marvel for example. And then you have tons of What If?/Elseworlds type tales, like What If The Marvel Heroes Lost Atlantis Attacks? or Armageddon 2001: L.E.G.I.O.N '01.

 

What are your picks for such stories? Do you love said story, or hate it?


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 12:14 PM

Maybe a different kind of dark, but the newspaper comics version of Winnie the Pooh had the characters act noticeably less pleasant than usual.

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More noteworthy for the choice of characters rather than being all that dark, though.

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Posted 20 May 2015 - 01:10 PM

More recent but Flashpoint Batman was awesome and super twisted. It introduced the best Batman, Thomas Wayne.


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 01:27 PM

Flashpoint was indeed quite dark...and the animated version darker still towards the end.


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 01:51 PM

Green Arrow: Longbow Hunters.  The beginning of Mike Grell's run and the only Green Arrow worth acknowledging besides Adams/O'Neil.  Ollie hits middle age, ditches the goofy cap and mask for the hood, and remembers Arrows are pointy shooty weapons.  Dinah's caught, tortured, possibly sexually assaulted, and so traumatized she loses her Canary Cry for years.

 

Gotham Central: Half a Life.  Two-Face's obsession with Renee Montoya has him out her as a lesbian and kicks off one of the best character arcs ruined by the New52.  Real life adult issues include coming out and rejection by family, discrimination in the workplace, and acoholism.

 

Catwoman: Relentless.  Black Mask kidnaps Catwoman's sister and brother-in-law, tortures both, and forces Maggie to EAT HER HUSBAND'S EYE.

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Posted 20 May 2015 - 02:41 PM

I'm sure this'll be tame compared to a lot of other picks, but I think "Whatever Happened to the Man Of Tomorrow?" is pretty damn dark, and I first read it as an adult.

On one hand, it's Alan Moore, so you kinda know what you're getting there, but I think what makes it worse is that the art ISN'T overtly dark or gruesome. It's that same bright Curt Swan artwork, it looks like every other Superman story you've read before, where Superman saves the day, but this time you slowly watch as everything goes wrong.

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Posted 20 May 2015 - 03:15 PM

Totally agreed.


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 04:07 PM

The Dark Knight Strikes Again is probably the darkest comic I've ever read featuring mainstream superheroes. 

 

It's also one of the very worst comics I've ever read.



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Posted 20 May 2015 - 04:23 PM

That comic where Black Panther fought Blackout inside of Cloak's dimension.

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Posted 20 May 2015 - 04:28 PM

Green Arrow: Longbow Hunters.  The beginning of Mike Grell's run and the only Green Arrow worth acknowledging besides Adams/O'Neil.  Ollie hits middle age, ditches the goofy cap and mask for the hood, and remembers Arrows are pointy shooty weapons.  Dinah's caught, tortured, possibly sexually assaulted, and so traumatized she loses her Canary Cry for years.

 

Gotham Central: Half a Life.  Two-Face's obsession with Renee Montoya has him out her as a lesbian and kicks off one of the best character arcs ruined by the New52.  Real life adult issues include coming out and rejection by family, discrimination in the workplace, and acoholism.

 

Catwoman: Relentless.  Black Mask kidnaps Catwoman's sister and brother-in-law, tortures both, and forces Maggie to EAT HER HUSBAND'S EYE.

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wow!

 

I know people freak out about the Killing Joke stuff, but damn, there is no implying violent acts here at all. 


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 05:02 PM

The Catwoman example...there are times when someone just needs to say 'Okay, this is one of the most horrific things imaginable but maybe writing this, drawing it and printing it for the masses makes us look worse than the villain'.



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Posted 20 May 2015 - 05:18 PM

The Catwoman example...there are times when someone just needs to say 'Okay, this is one of the most horrific things imaginable but maybe writing this, drawing it and printing it for the masses makes us look worse than the villain'.

 

Given how fantastic and character-defining Brubaker's run on Catwoman was, I'd have to completely disagree with you.  Now the jive that came after he left and Pfeifer's run especially, those are pretty villainous for how god awful they are.


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 11:27 AM

Zeb Wells and Chris Bachalo's Shed, from Amazing Spider-Man #630-633, in which the Lizard decides to destroy the last vestiges of Curt Connors in the most horrific manner he can. It's handled about as tastefully as possible, but man, it is...upsetting.


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 01:43 PM

The way that other certain issue ended, I expected that the Lizard didn't go through with it, cuz cliffhanger. I was surprised when he did. The thing I didn't like was all the people he took under control then, issues later, turns out he ate them all.

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 12:29 PM

I'm not quite sure of anything specific, but I really feel it's probably something written by Garth Ennis or Mark Millar and will look really stupid and puerile within a decade.


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Posted 31 May 2015 - 07:46 AM

Green Arrow: Longbow Hunters.  The beginning of Mike Grell's run and the only Green Arrow worth acknowledging besides Adams/O'Neil.  Ollie hits middle age, ditches the goofy cap and mask for the hood, and remembers Arrows are pointy shooty weapons.  Dinah's caught, tortured, possibly sexually assaulted, and so traumatized she loses her Canary Cry for years.

 

 

Catwoman: Relentless.  Black Mask kidnaps Catwoman's sister and brother-in-law, tortures both, and forces Maggie to EAT HER HUSBAND'S EYE.

Those both sound terrible.



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Posted 31 May 2015 - 03:28 PM

Man, I had blocked out that crazy Catwoman eye-eating. I agree it was a pretty good time for her on the whole, but that jive there is just bizarrely and pointlessly horrific. Just so unnecessary. It goes well beyond "reiterating that the bad guy is mean" and into "time to trim the pull list" territory.

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Posted 01 June 2015 - 04:12 AM

 

Green Arrow: Longbow Hunters.  The beginning of Mike Grell's run and the only Green Arrow worth acknowledging besides Adams/O'Neil.  Ollie hits middle age, ditches the goofy cap and mask for the hood, and remembers Arrows are pointy shooty weapons.  Dinah's caught, tortured, possibly sexually assaulted, and so traumatized she loses her Canary Cry for years.

Those both sound terrible.

 

 

At the time, Longbow Hunters was redefining and brilliant.  I don't know if it still holds up though.. (Grell's later Green Arrow Year One, i re-read recently and didn't think it did)



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Posted 01 June 2015 - 05:12 AM

I'm not at all surprised that a lot of these examples are DC. All I can think of Marvel-wise are all from the Ultimate universe.


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Posted 01 June 2015 - 08:22 AM

I'm not at all surprised that a lot of these examples are DC. All I can think of Marvel-wise are all from the Ultimate universe.

 

Not at all.

 

Carol Danvers- Ms. Marvel.  Gives birth to her own rapist and is then put on a bus with him to another dimension by the Avengers.

 

Bobbi Morse- Mockingbird.  Raped by the Phantom Rider and then passively murders him.

 

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Bruce Banner is almost raped by two gay men at the YMCA and Hulks out.

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