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@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 June 2019 - 10:12 PM)

It's like drawing someone in the "superhero landing" pose. It's just part of the cultural vocabulary at this point.

@  Arazyr : (25 June 2019 - 07:14 PM)

I can hear that post... *shudder*

@  B-Fox : (25 June 2019 - 06:09 PM)

So why does Cyberverse sound like . . . *that*?

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:05 PM)

Also, the theoretical new image would be a new compostion, it would just be individual bodies, or even just body parts, that are based on existing references by other creators, with the major caveat that there is more than one example for each reference so it's basically more like "following an established trend" than "copying someone's original creation".

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 04:03 PM)

Well, an homage is usually marked by a signature along the lines of "artist X after artist Y". I wasn't thinking about recreating something particularly memorable, just looking for reference images (just of a pose/perspective/layout) that looks like what I want, then finding more examples that just happen to look very similar, and it cannot be determined which version came "first".

@  ZakuConvoy : (25 June 2019 - 03:09 PM)

What you're describing is more an "homage" than plagiarism, really. I'm assuming you would be using different characters. It's basically like all the comic covers that homage the death of Supergirl cover from Crisis on Infinite Earths...but with different characters. It's not plagiarism, it's a reference. But if several artists have a memorable layout and are all using it, chances are it actually is referencing something memorably original.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:56 PM)

Would that still qualify as plagiarism? After all, it could be argued that what I've recreated isn't that original to begin with since several other people have supposedly had the same general idependently from each other.

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:54 PM)

And I were then to create a new image, not traced but maybe "swiped", except I wouldn't copy a specific source image, but merely recreate the basic pose and perspective shared between all of them...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:52 PM)

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@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:49 PM)

And out of sheer coincidence, they all feature very similar ideas, concepts, poses and/or perspectives, supposedly with none of the original creators having copied from one of the others...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:47 PM)

Assuming I were to find not one but two, three, four or even more source images, all of them by different artists, or by different photographers depicting different models...

@  Nevermore : (25 June 2019 - 01:45 PM)

Just out of curiosity, a question regarding the concept of plagiarism:

@  Benbot : (25 June 2019 - 08:58 AM)

That game needs a remake

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 08:57 AM)

I am Error.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 June 2019 - 08:17 AM)

There is no error. There is only Zuul.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (25 June 2019 - 07:51 AM)

The unicron singularity fixes all continuity errors.. including Power Rangers related ones now!

@  MEDdMI : (25 June 2019 - 07:06 AM)

I reject your canon and substitute my own

@  unluckiness : (25 June 2019 - 12:32 AM)

Answer: It doesn't matter because even if there was one, it was never relevant in S1 and it got blown up with his original body

@  PlutoniumBoss : (24 June 2019 - 10:55 PM)

Most people think Transformers canon is a series of discrete parallel lines, really it's more like a big ball of canony-wanony... stuff.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 June 2019 - 06:31 PM)

Hate to say this, but the simple answer is that you are thinking too hard and realistically, it does not matter.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 June 2019 - 04:57 PM)

Don't tell me what to do.

@  Paladin : (24 June 2019 - 04:16 PM)

don't cross the streams.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 03:03 PM)

Or is this what AVP meant when he said that condradictory streams formed the JG1 timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:25 PM)

I don't like that idea.

@  tffan01 : (24 June 2019 - 02:24 PM)

In Ask Vector Prime, it was mentioned that in the Beast Wars 2 universe, Convoys all have Energon Matrices and that when Optimus Primal from the Japanese Beast Wars stream was transported to the Beast Wars 2 stream, his history was subtly altered that he too possessed an Energon Matrix. What does this mean? That Beast Wars 2 is actually not canon to the Japanese Beast Wars?

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 08:54 AM)

yeah, I've got a few others that I need to check out/get removed. The nose one is small but annoying since I hit it every time I blow my nose.

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 08:46 AM)

Try to get a histopath examination if it isn't too expensive over there. It's probably just a mole but I'd think certainty would be better.

@  MEDdMI : (24 June 2019 - 07:59 AM)

@unluckiness I know, plan to get it removed but gotta get an appt first

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

oops... typed that in the wrong field. :)

@  Gizmoboy : (24 June 2019 - 07:50 AM)

gizmoboy

@  unluckiness : (24 June 2019 - 03:18 AM)

That is not a good thing, especially in the long term

@  MEDdMI : (23 June 2019 - 10:17 PM)

So who wants to hear about this mole on my nose that I keep scratching open

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 June 2019 - 09:24 PM)

Yeah, it's kind of defeating the purpose of making political discussions more restricted if you're just gonna go at it elsewhere on this site.

@  Telly : (23 June 2019 - 07:06 PM)

that would probly fit better in the p & r thread. its there for things just like this

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:29 PM)

The citizens resisted by buying up all the town's beer reserves so the Nazis would have to stay sober the entire time.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:28 PM)

Meanwhile, congratulations civil resistance, part 2: So a group of Nazis were holding one of their Good Old Times Reenactment festivals in a small East German town.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:26 PM)

It's basically like an anti-Trump candidate winning Texas.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:25 PM)

The mayoral elections of Istanbul are considered to be a key indicator for the political climate in the entire country.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:24 PM)

This time, it was a landslide victory for the opposition's candidate.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:23 PM)

After president Erdogan had a court revoke the results of the mayoral election of Istanbul after the opposition party's candidate had won by a small margin, the election was repeated today.

@  Nevermore : (23 June 2019 - 03:21 PM)

Congratulations, democracy part 1: Today is a historic day for Turkey.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 June 2019 - 02:31 PM)

Convert, does he timeout?

@  unluckiness : (23 June 2019 - 09:12 AM)

Did he form the feet and legs or the arms and body?

@  Patch : (22 June 2019 - 06:11 PM)

Nah, he was one of the Lions

@  MEDdMI : (22 June 2019 - 04:45 PM)

Is he a Shellformer

@  Nevermore : (22 June 2019 - 12:38 PM)

Supposedly it's about that football player Calvin Johnson.

@  Pennpenn : (22 June 2019 - 07:03 AM)

I'm vaguely confused why there is a Nicki Minaj song in my youtube reccomendations, but even more confused as to why that song (which appears to be from an official account) is called "MEGATRON".

@  Liege : (21 June 2019 - 10:03 PM)

Alpha Q all night long.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (21 June 2019 - 10:44 AM)

Only if you ask nicely, Silv.

@  RichardT1977 : (21 June 2019 - 09:42 AM)

1998 Zilla is the Gaijin era.


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#181 BlackMax

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 06:03 AM

He's going to tower over several small Children  :wtf

Well, robots gotta eat too, y'know.


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#182 LV!

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Posted 24 May 2015 - 11:24 AM

Wrong Devastator.



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Posted 11 June 2015 - 04:57 PM

http://bwtf.com/node/4165

 

More pictures, this time split out into individual guys and with all the modes.

 

Buttload of paint.  And some more chrome.



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Posted 11 June 2015 - 05:25 PM

I really like chrome as an accent, and even loved it on Metroplex.

 

I don't love it here, which is a shame, because all that extra paint detail is really quite nice. Although I also don't care for the toy-based head, surprising no one.  



#185 LV!

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 05:39 PM

If I get a Devastator, this is the one I will get. I don't like chrome, but I definitely like this head, and I doubt Takara will use the head he didn't have in TFTM (even though he had separate eyes half the time in the cartoon, and also even though Devastator was generally one of the sloppiest, ugliest models in that show, so why would you ever want anything to look like it?)

 

(It's surprising how much of the deco I initially think is "new" is actually just an elaboration on the retail version's, but it makes a big difference - as do all the beautiful, beautiful caution stripes.)

 

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 06:15 PM

This one is killer. I generally prefer the visor face over individual eyes, but what can you do? It still looks good and I feel chrome is less invasive in person than it is a photograph.

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 06:39 PM

Frankly, if I decide I want goggles on mine, two minutes with some Sculpey will fix that.



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Posted 11 June 2015 - 08:03 PM

Eh, this one's cool and all but I'm just going to wait for official pics of Takara's version before I pass final judgement as to which one to plunk down my dough on.  


Edited by Sciflyer, 11 June 2015 - 08:04 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2015 - 10:57 PM

I'm really glad I don't want this toy, because if I did, I'd definitely have to get the SDCC version. It's amazing how much paint they added and how much difference it makes.

The head sculpt is way better too.

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 11:03 PM

I very much want the SDCC version, but doubt I'd be able to actually afford the thing...


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Posted 11 June 2015 - 11:47 PM

Hate the chrome....  Want the toy version of the head... Dang.  That said.  Does any place have preorders up for any version of this thing?

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 01:23 AM

Comparison shots between the retail and SDCC versions from here - http://www.seibertro...75.php#p1697308

 

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#193 NICK NEMESIS

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 01:31 AM

So this is a no contest.

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#194 LV!

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 01:39 AM

The most important paint op difference between those two is the one the SDCC version doesn't have, which is the painted receding hairline.



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 02:42 AM

like the darker green on the sdcc one. may TRY to get it off hts...


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Posted 12 June 2015 - 03:03 AM

I like the plain look of underpainted one more in Combined mode and the safety green suits the look of Devastator himself to me

The SDCC ones looks nicer as individual robots & as vehicles though I feel and the darker green adds a bit of realism to the vehicles.

 

The extensive use of Chevrons reminds me of the Hercules Repro Labels set though.



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Posted 12 June 2015 - 07:06 AM

Wow, the SDCC version blows the regular release version out of the water.

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 07:23 AM

Even though Takara's Metroplex had more paint apps than Hasbro's SDCC Metroplex, I highly doubt Takara's Devastator will have as many paint applications as Hasbro's SDCC Devastator.  Especially since a lot of the detailing is toy sticker based.

 

Hasbro's SDCC Devastator has really impressive detailing.

 

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 09:24 AM

The most important paint op difference between those two is the one the SDCC version doesn't have, which is the painted receding hairline.


I've been trying ever since Toy Fair to figure out what exactly was wrong with Devastator's head. And I think that's probably largely it.

That aside, those comparisons aren't super fair considering it's un-Photoshopped stock images for the retail set and the typical retouched to hell shots for the SDCC. At least go grab the old retail stock images from the Toy Fair press releases so they're more equivalent.

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Posted 12 June 2015 - 09:38 AM

I appreciate the side-by-sides and the reality for me is: a little bit of paint and a set of Reprolabels will make up the difference for a heckuvalot less than the SDCC version with the bonus of not having the chrome. At this point I'm thankful for the chrome because I'd really want that set without it. Then I'd have to worry about trying to add another thing to my cart on HTS on whatever day they show up and we all go crazy.


 
 
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