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@  Jenny : (11 November 2019 - 08:54 AM)

The toy's designed to look like Wipe-Out, anyway.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 08:14 AM)

Didn't they try to retcon that into a figure of speech because that connection went against everybody else's long-term plans?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 November 2019 - 03:53 AM)

There's still some connection given Trypticon was created by Mortilus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (11 November 2019 - 12:12 AM)

Yeah that toy doesn't exactly look like Necrobot.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 08:24 PM)

But.... it's just "Necro" not "Necrobot".

@  TheMightyMol... : (10 November 2019 - 05:10 PM)

But why does the God of Death need a giant space kaiju? Wait, never mind, answered my own question.

@  Maximus Ambus : (10 November 2019 - 02:15 PM)

Yowza I just realised Titans Trypticon comes with Necro AKA Censere AKA Mortilus.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

I... think the best equivalent would actually be the British "There is room for improvement".

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:15 PM)

There's always a sense of irony to it, but what the ratio between irony (you really failed) and straightworwardness (at least you achieved something) is depends on the situation and the speaker.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:12 PM)

The meaning can be both literal (you succeed on one level but fail on another), or it can be utterly ironic (you fail in every regard but the most technical; or even worse, "you really gave your best"), and anything in between.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 01:10 PM)

For example: A singer can hit the notes really well, but clearly isn't a native speaker and what little of the lyrics you can make out sounds nothing like what it's supposed to be.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:06 PM)

The premise seems to be the mixing of technical and aesthetic technical qualities towards the overall success.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 01:05 PM)

But both "hollow victory" and pyrrhic victory" are referring to having lost as much as you've gained. IE; a battle was won but both armies were destroyed. The town being seiged is victorious, but all the soldiers are still dead. Nevermore's concept is more "You did it, but it's so ugly we don't know if you actually succeeded".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Alternately, one could probably also call it a "hollow victory".

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:35 AM)

Example: In the Powerpuff Girls episode "Uh Oh Dynamo", the monster-of-the-day was a really tough, giant-size one that required the use of a really destructive mech to defeat it. While the monster was ultimately beaten, the city of Townsville was utterly trashed by the mech's weapons in the process. So, while the city was saved from the monster, it was harmed even worse by the mech that saved it, making the victory bittersweet.

@  Sabrblade : (10 November 2019 - 11:32 AM)

@Nevermore, sounds to me like what one might call a "bittersweet victory". The goal was met, but at great cost or by disastrous result that call into question if the achieved goal could even be called a success.

@  Arvegtor : (10 November 2019 - 09:40 AM)

Seems to be close enough to "Pyrrhic victory"

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

What do you get from putting the German term through a translator?

@  wonko the sane? : (10 November 2019 - 08:57 AM)

That is a ridiculously interesting concept. But I don't think english has a singular term for what you're describing.

@  Nevermore : (10 November 2019 - 08:28 AM)

Is there an English equivalent for what we Germans call "deductions in the B rating"? Context: Someone did something and suceeded on a technical level (as in, achieved the intended goal), but failed to some degree in the details, i.e. there was some collateral damage, or while a technical success, the end result is an aestetic failure. It can be used highly ironically, as in "barely achieved the intended goal, but failed so much in every aspect that's not purely technical that it might as well be considered an utter failure altogether." The German term is derived from the old judging syste in figure skating, which gave separate ratings for "technical merit" and "presentation", with the latter being the origin of the German term.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (10 November 2019 - 02:32 AM)

Huh. I did not know before today that "medieval" had an alternate spelling "mediaeval". Like "paleontology" and "palaeontology".

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 November 2019 - 04:15 PM)

'Beast Wars in underrated' the comment went. I exploded.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:19 PM)

Absolutely.

@  wonko the sane? : (09 November 2019 - 02:14 PM)

So... you can look like a cop from the 70's AND a huge nerd at the same time?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (09 November 2019 - 02:09 PM)

I feel like the best way to carry the Switch would be an under-arm torso holster.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 12:31 PM)

It's not. hell. If the 3DS zelda case just stretched a LITTLE more it would fit.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 November 2019 - 03:38 AM)

I feel like the Switch Lite is a bit big to have hanging on your belt like that, but I don't take my Switch out with me often anyway.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 November 2019 - 01:13 AM)

I must be the only one who wants a switch lite case with a belt loop. o.O

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 November 2019 - 03:03 PM)

I'm gonna have "Chainsaw Buffet" and "Candy For the Cannibal" by Lordi playing in my head all night.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

Trick or treaters can only consent to cannibalism in Germania.

@  Sabrblade : (07 November 2019 - 12:12 PM)

Hey, if the trick or treaters can't take some loving insults, that's their problem.

@  Arazyr : (07 November 2019 - 11:39 AM)

Just make sure to put the leftovers in the fridge, so they don't get spoiled.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I love children... but I can never eat a whole one.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 November 2019 - 09:52 AM)

I can neither confirm nor deny this allegation.

@  Paladin : (07 November 2019 - 09:46 AM)

...you don't roast the trick or treaters, do you....

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:38 AM)

A cold beer, a warm fire, some smores and trick or treaters... Man, you got this life thing down.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 November 2019 - 09:37 AM)

That actually sounds pretty awesome.

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:59 AM)

we'll move to the open garage if it's raining

@  MEDdMI : (07 November 2019 - 08:58 AM)

every Halloween since we got a house, TMM and I chill in the driveway with a fire bowl and roast things while handing out candy. It's pretty great.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 November 2019 - 03:42 AM)

Peter Cullen voiced King Kong let that sink in.

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:42 PM)

I've noticed that after a year or two, though, people with children will start getting into it for their kids

@  TM2-Megatron : (06 November 2019 - 11:41 PM)

I think a lot of the decline you see in Halloween is due to newcomers to Canada who don't really get it... I mean,there are only a handful of countries in the world that practice this particular oddity

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (06 November 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I recently attended a talk on Samhain and its associated mythology by a professor from Limerick.

@  Otaku : (06 November 2019 - 11:49 AM)

Trunk or Treats have become more popular because it is supposed to be safer, and even if it isn't, it just tends to be easier for the Trick-or-Treaters.

@  wonko the sane? : (06 November 2019 - 11:00 AM)

That's okay: between ever more extreme weather, ever more violent society, and general paranoia of parents: halloweens not doing to well out here either.

@  Anonymous X : (06 November 2019 - 09:30 AM)

We used to have Bonfire Night here in the UK as our thing instead of Halloween... It's withered away for the most part. Halloween used to be the strange American tradition you knew of from ET or various cartoons

@  TheMightyMol... : (06 November 2019 - 06:33 AM)

So that's why I never get invited anywhere.

@  Otaku : (05 November 2019 - 12:36 PM)

@Bass X0 Are we talking about the quality of the costumes or their subject matter?  The former is a natural result of cosplay growing less and less niche over the decades.  The latter isn't new; mass produced stuff is at least as old as you or I and are we sure no one dressed as a cowboy or astronaut or whatever in the 1950's?  Monsters weren't allowed at certain parties, strange as it sounds. XP

@  Benbot : (05 November 2019 - 12:23 PM)

is the quick reply broken for anyone else or is it just me?

@  Pinkcolliebot : (05 November 2019 - 11:30 AM)

Announcement! TF Roll Out Short Gotta Go Fast! Storyboard in the works! Green lit Real Soon.


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#481 Jalaguy

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 03:23 PM

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For god's sake, Warner Bros.

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 03:31 PM

How much more Joker footage did they throw in there?


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Posted 05 October 2016 - 06:11 PM

Yeah I thought it strange that the scenes that we saw of Harley and Joker through those set photos never ended up in there.

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Posted 05 October 2016 - 09:01 PM

if theyre gonna keep releasing all their movies in extended editions, im gonna stop going to the theater to see them as thats not the one they apparently want me to see


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Posted 06 October 2016 - 01:45 AM

Yeah, after the reviews came through I figured I'd just wait for for home video, and unexpectedly WB seems to support me in that decision.

As somebody who is indifferent at best to what they're doing with these films, WB sure is doing a great job of convincing me to never bother seeing any of them in the cinema ever.

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Posted 07 October 2016 - 11:24 AM

WB came out a month or so ago and said that in the future, they're just going to release the movies in whatever length they're supposed to be in as opposed to editing them down like they did with the last two.


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Posted 07 October 2016 - 02:40 PM

Yeah, after the reviews came through I figured I'd just wait for for home video, and unexpectedly WB seems to support me in that decision.

As somebody who is indifferent at best to what they're doing with these films, WB sure is doing a great job of convincing me to never bother seeing any of them in the cinema ever.

 

I'm hoping that's going to be something that stops with the Johns regime.



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Posted 08 October 2016 - 11:30 AM

WB came out a month or so ago and said that in the future, they're just going to release the movies in whatever length they're supposed to be in as opposed to editing them down like they did with the last two.

 

So Justice League is going to be 10 hours long to cover all the origin stories and story set up?



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Posted 21 November 2016 - 09:59 AM

So I finally saw Suicide Squad, and wow, I don't I've ever felt as much second-hand embarrassment from a piece of entertainment before. I legit had my face in my hands when the Joker started waffling about how he's An Idea, and Can't Be Loved...

Deadshot and Harley were decent enough, though some of the gags she was saddled with were kind of cringey too.

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Posted 21 November 2016 - 01:54 PM

Has anybody yet seen both versions of the film yet?  I'm wondering if it's worth sitting through a second time for the extra footage.  BvS wasn't.



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Posted 23 November 2016 - 01:47 AM

If you didn't think BvS was worth it with 30 extra minutes that actually clarified some plot holes, then you will definitely not think SS is worth it. I think it's only about 10 minutes or so of extra footage.


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Posted 23 November 2016 - 02:04 AM

i didnt think this movie was all that bad. probly helps i know very little about dc characters nowadays lol

 

i did think joker was...i dont even know how to describe it. and i dont think hes all that devoted to harley to do all that. but theres like 20 years difference between the joker i know and this one, so ymmv


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Posted 13 December 2016 - 05:54 PM

So apparently they're gonna do a Gotham City Sirens film... directed by Ayer.

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 06:08 PM

Ew.

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Posted 13 December 2016 - 11:21 PM

Well, I just saw it tonight. Never did see it in the theatre. Can't say I'm sorry for that. I watched the extended version. I see no reason to see the theatrical.

I think it was a decent enough movie. I mean, I don't see it winning any awards any time soon and some of Harley's lines had some odd syncopated delivery that made no sense. Jared Leto's Joker was...well to be fair, no one's ever going to top Heath Ledger, but he seemed less crazy psycho clown and more street thug.

I also find it funny that the animated version (Assault on Arkham) seemed to have more balls than the live action version (more blood, bigger body count, more swearing, more toplessness, more yahtzee).

But over all, it was a nice mindless special effects action romp. I'll probably see it again when I just want to see pretty light shows and things go boom.
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Posted 14 December 2016 - 11:14 AM

Thing is, wanksta Joker could work if he wasn't played straight.

Oh well at least it's not Young Justice Joker.
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Posted 14 December 2016 - 01:02 PM

Aside from his awful design, I actually liked this Joker pretty well. I did not see the extended version, though. Just whatever was posted on Exodus.



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Posted 30 December 2016 - 10:18 AM

I saw Suicide Squad finally. I didn't avoid it because of bad reviews. I was just busy. But the bad reviews probably primed me so I really wasn't disappointed. Not one of my new favorite movies, but I thought it was good enough. I couldn't help but think about how much more they did, character-wise, with their ensemble cast than Rogue One managed. I had no previous knowledge of the big bad. I thought they'd be going after Joker. I didn't find I much cared about the big bad, but I had plenty of connection with most of the Task Force themselves. I appreciated the stinger, which I hadn't heard anything about.

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Posted 24 July 2018 - 01:52 AM

Resurrecting cuz I remember the Killer Croc not having his crimes mentioned in the movie so we assumed he was a criminal cuz of his skin. Plus killer in his name.


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