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@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!


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#81 Copper Bezel

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 02:55 AM

I'm not sure what I can possibly add to that. It is perfect in every detail. 


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 07:43 AM

this is not news to me... it's basically what students in Ontario have been doing since elementary school. Did this lady not know she was turning out cogs for the machine all this time?



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Posted 26 April 2015 - 07:57 AM

I still haven't decided if there's a possible right way of teaching literature, or whether it's a thing that needs to be done at all.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 26 April 2015 - 07:57 AM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 08:07 AM

I wish kids here still had the option of taking English media in high school

 

but no we went and elected conservatives provincially so out with the learning that might teach kids to be critical of whatever they're told to think


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 08:54 AM

That's what happens when professors grade according to how close you come to their own interpretation. Students are stuck giving the teacher what they think the teacher wants because it's less risky than putting your own thoughts out.

 

Basic risk aversion.



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Posted 26 April 2015 - 09:34 AM

I really think it's more systematic than that. Tests in literature classes are used in part to test comprehension and retention, and those have right and wrong answers. Then there's the everloving fuzzispace of the spotless rubric in what is and isn't a "defensible interpretation" when considered in light of the limited toolkit available to a high school student. It's a bloody absurdly value-judgement-laden question that isn't compatible with classrooms pf 30+ kids or whatever the hell else and consequential tests.

 

And then there is whether that's even a useful skill set in itself when it's almost always used in this nonsense decoder-ring hidden-message way, where idiot instructors and idiot curricula gravitate toward allegory and The Message because they're easy, you know, like for kids, and ignore ... basically everything else about a piece of writing ever. Including symbol, which doesn't mean what they think it means.

 

High school literature classes as they stand have a net negative impact on kids' appreciation for and understanding of literature. They are bad for kids and they are bad for literature.

 

So I'm with Destron - step one is to teach mass media and make the Shakespeare optional. Actually fixing the lit classes is like ... thirteen spaces or so down the priorities list. Just make them so they can't hurt anyone anymore first.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 26 April 2015 - 09:38 AM.

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Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 09:43 AM

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this isn't the picture we used in class, but it's a good example... man did I love the 2 weeks we spent on subliminal advertising



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Posted 26 April 2015 - 10:09 AM

Oh. Oh wow. Best Where's Wally ever.
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Posted 26 April 2015 - 10:34 AM

But seriously, this is what you can do, and can only do, if you don't have a canon to work from. You can look for good examples of the things you mean to illustrate. Likewise use of works of literature from a period, or representing a period, in history classes. It's only this delusional idea of teaching "great" works of literature for their own sake where things totally part company with the rizzails. 


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 10:39 AM

I sure am glad college lit classes exist, even though some of them revolved around essays...
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Posted 26 April 2015 - 10:41 AM

This isn't a sarcastic question, I'm genuinely curious - what would you say you've got out of them, on the whole?


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 10:44 AM

This isn't a sarcastic question, I'm genuinely curious - what would you say you've got out of them, on the whole?


Hmm...

An exposure to authors I'd never have looked at on my own? That's about it.
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Posted 26 April 2015 - 11:09 AM

Fair enough. It's hard for me to quantify, but I feel like I did get rather a lot out of college lit classes, systematic things wholly outside of exposure, but of course, I also took quite an awful lot of them. Still, I was a person who read quite an awful lot as a kid, and quite broadly, just nothing before about 1930 - and I don't really think I've ever really gained much from reading any particular work before that time,* or that canonically "great" works of literature have better odds than chance to actually contain anything worthwhile.

 

It's something I just don't know about how kids' brains work. For me, reading books and talking to intelligent people about them have certainly been worthwhile pursuits, and writing papers takes a special level of care in reading carefully and with insight and being able to structure and articulate thoughts about them. At the same time, I've only ever taught a lit class once, in a college context, and I kept being blindsided by how unprepared most of the students seemed. So I feel like I really don't know what's valuable and what's sort of being done because it's been done. I've been able to be impressed by students' analyses of music videos and things in my composition classes. I feel like the analytical tools are there. 

 

If the point is teaching the analytical tools, which I very much believe it is, I just feel that throwing bloody Shakespeare at a high school student is pure fake difficulty. 

 

* Well, okay, this is flatly untrue, but extend it back to about 1890, and the only book before that I can say I'd regret having missed is On the Origin of Species.


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 11:28 AM

I haven't read many books in a long time...
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Posted 26 April 2015 - 12:09 PM

 

So I'm with Destron - step one is to teach mass media and make the Shakespeare optional

 

Noooooooo!

 

Shakespeare is life!


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 12:15 PM

Backstabbing, treachery, doomed romance, and a lot of people dying pointlessly is life?

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 12:17 PM

I mean, for real, guys, what is the bloody point of forcing kids to read plays? It doesn't make any sense. You don't read. Plays. That's not what they're for. It's like having classes devoted to radio transcripts or something. Doesn't make any bloody sense, never has.


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Posted 26 April 2015 - 12:21 PM

I remember reading Julius Caesar in tenth grade. As part of it, we were supposed to memorize a speech (I forget the character's name, the "Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears" speech) and recite it in front of the whole class. For no apparent reason. Well, except to screw with kids like me who have speech problems, I guess.

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Posted 26 April 2015 - 12:43 PM

I actually asked that question once ... when you're in your 8th English class in 5th year I guess you get bored.

 

the answer I got was actually pointedly sad. "It's still in the curriculum"



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Posted 27 April 2015 - 05:13 AM

I mean, for real, guys, what is the bloody point of forcing kids to read plays? It doesn't make any sense. You don't read. Plays. That's not what they're for. It's like having classes devoted to radio transcripts or something. Doesn't make any bloody sense, never has.

Having the language there in front of you makes it easier to analyse the composition. Shakespeare and his contemporaries in particular are very composed. You need to take the kids to a live performance or at least have a couple thespians in the class though otherwise it's just going to be a crap experience listening to 13 yr olds stumbling over every word.

 

Shakespeare needs to be taught as part of a wider module looking at Lit in that period. You need to look at Petrarchan sonnets, Philip Sidney, The Spanish Tragedy by Thomas Kyd, and some Christopher Marlowe so that kids don't just think of Shakespeare as some genius spontaneously enlightening a bunch of peasants. He borrowed techniques and storylines from other works and is part of the ongoing evolution of verse and poetry.

 

As for the "Boo hoo hoo Shakespeare's too hard for high schoolers" crowd, get good. I was introduced to Shakespeare at around 13/14 and struggled with it, but when I encountered it later I had a lot easier time understanding not just Shakespeare but older literature in general. If you keep putting initial exposure off then kids won't be equipped to handle it later in their academic careers or general life. Experiencing that initial slap in the face of a load of unfamiliar structure is a necessary part of a broad, humanistic literary education.


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