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@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!


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#21 wonko the sane?

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 04:27 PM

Alright fellas, to quote a very famous psychopath... Here. We. Go...


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 04:32 PM

Christ, that looks terrible.

 

A workplace mockumentary? Really? 2010 thinks that format might be past its expiration date!

 

And the "adult" jokes in there are horrendous.

 

I don't get who this is supposed to appeal to.



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Posted 12 May 2015 - 04:58 PM

 

Just because something runs for 10 odd years then ad infinitum in syndication does not mean its a good program, it means it's a program that people like. Yes, there can be overlap, but we all know the easiest way to get something with staying power is to cater to the lowest common denominator.
 
I can see where dusty is coming from here. Do we want a new muppet show which is outstanding in its class, clever in it's execution and witty in it's writing... or do we want kermit making fart jokes?
 
To put it simply: do we want firefly or family guy? Both will get one season at least, but only one of them will actually be good.


Exactly.

Nickelback has sold millions of albums, but Nickelback is AWFUL. Success does not magically equal quality.

 

 

But then at the same time -  Led Zeppelin has also sold millions

 

Rather than just assume success does not mean quality (as your post alludes to) why don't we see if he can in fact get a good show off the ground before we boo-urns it?

 

 

Personally I'm really excited - as much as I love the Muppet movies (though most wanted REALLY pushed the envelope for me, I just couldn't get on with the Ricky Gervais show - the Interpol and Gulag parts were great) - to me the Muppets are best in smaller, constant doses.


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 05:02 PM

Christ, that looks terrible.

 

A workplace mockumentary? Really? 2010 thinks that format might be past its expiration date!

 

And the "adult" jokes in there are horrendous.

 

I don't get who this is supposed to appeal to.

 

 

It's a mick take out of the recent trend of 'office' type documentaries - I really enjoyed the teaser.


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 05:17 PM

 

Christ, that looks terrible.

 

A workplace mockumentary? Really? 2010 thinks that format might be past its expiration date!

 

And the "adult" jokes in there are horrendous.

 

I don't get who this is supposed to appeal to.

 

 

It's a mick take out of the recent trend of 'office' type documentaries - I really enjoyed the teaser.

 

 

That's not at all how it's being billed.

 

Via Newsweek: 

http://www.newsweek....ming-abc-331203

 

 

ABC has decided we need more Muppets in our lives.  A “sort of adult” version of the show is coming to Tuesday nights at 8 p.m., according to Kermit. The announcement comes during the upfronts. The head frog in charge describes the revival of the show, called simply The Muppets, as being about “our personal lives” and “our relationships.”

As ABC Entertainment Group president Paul Lee put it: “This is not your grandmother’s Muppets.” A trailer for the show features cutaway interviews, light-hearted arguments and Miss Piggy taking a selfie. (She is obviously the Muppet most likely to create her own Kardashian-like selfie book.) Miss Piggy was honored with an award at the Elizabeth A. Sackler Center for Feminist Art earlier this year.

The show will be a single-camera comedy, in the style of The Office and Parks and Recreation, with one-on-one Muppet interviews cut in throughout the action.

 

"In the style of," not "a parody of."

 

And "Not your grandmother's Muppets?" Hug right off with your soulless, pandering corporate slang, ABC. My grandmother's Muppets were the best thing ever.


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 05:52 PM

Hem. Ok I thought the office style cut away jokes about the office style cutaway jokes were funny and very classic muppet type humor. The rest... I dunno. I don't want an adult muppets, I want good hearted clean and funny muppets. We'll see.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 06:01 PM

At worst this is going to be a Michael Bay TF thing. If this is successful and clears the way for awesome stuff (like the rest of the hugging original show on DVD!) it'll be worth it.

 

That said, I enjoyed the teaser.


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Posted 12 May 2015 - 10:03 PM

Yeah, I don't think we have enough to judge yet. I'm optimistic. I love that somebody cares enough about the Muppets to try a new show. I love that the trailer is full of Muppet crowd scenes and obscure characters and not just three or four Muppets surrounded by annoying human stars. 

 

But what will this be? We don't know. Fingers crossed. I'm sure it will be axed within months anyway, but it's worth a shot. 


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Posted 13 May 2015 - 03:43 AM

I thought it was great.

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 11:01 AM

My only issue is when it's airing. ABC's putting this up against one of the top shows on TV. That's scary.


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Posted 13 May 2015 - 11:14 AM

I laughed enough during the teaser that I will be somewhat optimistic about this for the time being.

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Posted 13 May 2015 - 11:29 AM

And "Not your grandmother's Muppets?" Hug right off with your soulless, pandering corporate slang, ABC. My grandmother's Muppets were the best thing ever.

 

See, this is the kind of stuff they need to compete with right off the bat. Which is probably why they went in an entirely different direction, ripping off the office instead of trying another straight up skit comedy show (which, let's face it: other than saturday night live is dead.)

 

They had to do something with the property that hadn't been done before. Especially if they want to stay relevant, and interesting. We should be happy they didn't decide to rip off "big brother" or "the voice" or some other stupid shit.

 

If nothing else: a REALLY bad show will give us plenty of face time with statler and waldorf. For one season.


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Posted 13 May 2015 - 12:15 PM

I enjoyed the trailer. If it winds up something like 30 Rock where we get the occasional bit of actual show but the rest is zany shenanigans I can probably be ok with that. Parks and Rec managed to take the single-cam thing and do something different with it that surpassed the Office imo. If this only manages to maintain that level it can be good. 


 
 
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Posted 13 May 2015 - 08:16 PM

I enjoyed the trailer. If it winds up something like 30 Rock where we get the occasional bit of actual show but the rest is zany shenanigans I can probably be ok with that. Parks and Rec managed to take the single-cam thing and do something different with it that surpassed the Office imo. If this only manages to maintain that level it can be good.


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Posted 14 May 2015 - 05:05 AM

Christ, that looks terrible.

 

A workplace mockumentary? Really? 2010 thinks that format might be past its expiration date!

 

And the "adult" jokes in there are horrendous.

 

I don't get who this is supposed to appeal to.

It's clear from reading your comments in this thread you weren't going to like it no matter what they showed. Stop kidding yourself and be honest. You clearly have something against the showrunner of the series.

 

I hate two and half men as much as the next guy, but the rest of his stuff isn't bad. Big Bang is good, not sure if you have even tried to give it a chance. But, again it's clear you weren't going to like this anyway.



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Posted 14 May 2015 - 05:08 AM

Comedy, like most things, is subjective.

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Posted 14 May 2015 - 11:04 AM

seems fairly inoffensive.

 

I'll give it a shot, but I seriously doubt it will find it's footing. If anything, I actually think the writing will be great but it will go away too soon like The Tick.

 

It seems like Muppets is not a property that Disney controls with an iron grip so that should allow the writers to have some breathing room and experiment. I'm betting there will be lots of jokes for long time Muppet fans and that's what will make it great for that select group. Afterall, putting the Muppets in real-world situations is what made them great. I can't say the bulk of television viewers would get it though.

 

We'll just have to see.


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Posted 15 May 2015 - 11:38 AM

Adult-me likes the Muppets best when they're being a bit adult.  Not to the point that it's inappropriate for kids, but just enough that it feels like they're out of their element.  The teaser works for me.  I'll certainly check out the show.

 

The Office adhered to the mockumentary format, and eventually showed the guys behind the cameras.  Parks and Recreation used the tropes but also gave the viewer access to moments where you really wouldn't expect a camera crew to be standing around.

 

I'm kind of expecting The Muppets to be constantly aware that there are cameramen around.  More so than The Office.



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Posted 18 May 2015 - 10:35 PM

This article might help ease some of those issues people have with the show.

http://www.vulture.c...now-so-far.html



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Posted 19 May 2015 - 02:51 AM

I feel better, but I'm still concerned.  We'll see.


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