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@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!


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#221 Sabrblade

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Posted 02 October 2017 - 10:13 PM

How did I miss this?! Marvel is collecting the entire Muppet Babies comic run and it's out this week?! (Maybe... Diamond lists it for this week but Amazon says the 17th.)

 

All 26 issues plus Marvel Super Special #32, the Muppets Take Manhattan adaptation. 

 

The omnibus will presumably not go up on Comixology, they don't seem to do that, but hopefully they'll at least follow the Ewoks/Droids model and put up the individual issues. 

There were Muppet Babies comics?!!!!!  :o Why have I never heard of comics for my favorite 1980s children's cartoon before now?!!!


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:30 AM

Wow, yeah, there was a Star run. And I think Harvey Comics did some as well. (Ah, reprints of the Marvel issues: http://muppet.wikia....s_(comic_book)).

Fantastic to see it in print again. Not sure how it will hold up but I have fond memories.

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 07:04 PM

Haven't been keeping up with Muppet news, but there has been some apparently.
 
THR reports that Disney is planning a new Muppet project for their Screw Netflix! streaming platform
 
Jenny Slate cast as Nanny in Muppet Babies reboot. (Visually, the show looks startlingly faithful to most of the original designs.)
 
Renee Elise Goldsberry is singing the theme.
 


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Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:56 AM

Glad to hear bout the new Muppets show.

Sure it's just a ploy to lure people to their dubious Steaming Service, but I'm happy to see Disney thinks the brand is strong enough to entice people to the service. Especially after the previous show didn't perform well.

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 05:40 AM

Yeah, any interest in keeping the property alive is welcome.

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:09 PM

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 05:49 PM

I like the Muppets but I won't subscribe to Disney's streaming service.



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Posted 24 March 2018 - 10:58 PM

So the new Muppet Babies show premiered recently.

 

 

I've only watched the first part of the episode so far but: Some of the voices take a bit getting used to especially Animal, I actually like the visual designs since they manage to make the cast look like physical muppets; though on the other end is pretty much everything else that isn't in the main cast looks really cheap and lazy and really clashes with how really good the babies themselves look. New character feels weird, but then not a first for MB as the original had Skeeter. They actually seem to use movie clips like the original did as well.

 

Overall, this is decent. Its not as good as the original, which I don't know if that's just nostalgia talking or what, but the episodes being 2 11 minute parts and more overtly educational plots end up lacking some of the charm of the original, but it does feel like they're makign a good effort to try to remain true to the feel of its predacessor.


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Posted 31 July 2020 - 09:41 AM

New Muppet Show our on Disney Plus!

I liked it better than the ABC show. New Kermit will take some getting used to. The format works well with the muppets. Had some legitimate chuckles and very few groans.

Worth continuing to give it a shot.

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Posted 31 July 2020 - 12:23 PM

Alright, need to check it out then. I'm having a ball with disney plus.


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Posted 01 August 2020 - 05:54 AM

Kermits exasperated sigh with Gonzo was great.

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 06:26 AM

I enjoyed that a lot. I liked the ABC show too, but this had a much more classic TMS vibe.

I have not enjoyed Vogel's Kermit in the past, like SUPER not, but I guess he has grown into the role or something because here I felt that he was okay. Like maybe he's relaxed a bit and he's not trying so hard or... something. He doesn't sound like Jim and he doesn't sound like Steve but I found a tolerable level of Kermit. Certainly I could handle it better than I could Steve after the same brief period in the role.

The continuing duo of Piggy and Uncle Deadly remains fun, I feel like they're the modern Gonzo/Rizzo, a weird team-up that just works and gives them tons of mileage.

The Chef stuff was great, and I think that's a character who hasn't really sung since we lost Jim.

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Posted 01 August 2020 - 08:15 AM

For those who missed it, here's one of the trailers that was put out for this new show:

 


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

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Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 06:20 AM

The first episode of Muppets Now was pretty enjoyable. Parts of it were kind of flat but parts were very funny. It’s not the best of the Muppets. It it’s pretty good. Hopefully it’ll improve as they find their footing. 
 

Kermit seemed fine to me. He sounds a little different but he doesn’t sound wrong.

 

i thought I had read initially that the show was going to be a series of shorts rather than full 20-something minute episodes. It seems like they decided to edit the shorts together and added Scooter as a social-distanced framing device. But I haven’t seen that spelled out anywhere. 



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Posted 02 August 2020 - 07:42 AM

Only bit I liked was the Kermit's hidden talent bit. The rest just felt dated and desperate.

I've loved the Muppets since I was a kid. It's absolutely on brand for them to embrace the web and work with celebs. But this just felt like a lot of tired jokes about Internet culture.

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Posted 02 August 2020 - 06:30 PM

i thought I had read initially that the show was going to be a series of shorts rather than full 20-something minute episodes. It seems like they decided to edit the shorts together and added Scooter as a social-distanced framing device. But I haven’t seen that spelled out anywhere.

 
I hadn't either until I checked Muppet Wiki because I was also confused about the format change (though I think it was beneficial). https://muppet.fando...iki/Muppets_Now
 

They were originally intended as "three types of shows" split between eighteen episodes at approximately ten minutes each for a total of approximately three hours of content.[9] By early 2020, the series was instead formatted as a half-hour show comprised of the shorts, with new framing material shot from the homes of the performers (due to the COVID-19 pandemic).


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Posted 02 August 2020 - 08:50 PM

i genuinely really liked the last show...i liked its more cynical and mean spirited tone. And i like this one, too. i think, maybe, i  just like the muppets, period....because me and my BFF really liked both of the recent movies as well....and it seems like NO ONE liked the second one.


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Posted 02 August 2020 - 09:05 PM

I liked the ABC show a lot. It's not what I would have done with the Muppets personally, but it was a reasonable approach for a modern take. 

 

The movies were both good, though I'd have thought the consensus would be that MMW was better than the Segel flick. 

 

I don't know what the perfect premise is for a successful and fan-pleasing Muppet project. "Updated TMS" is basically what Muppets Tonight was, and that did not take the world by storm. One imagines that a big part of its problem was a heavy reliance on new characters and too little of the iconic legacy guys. At that point, minimal Kermit use was still wise. Many of those new characters were (and are) brilliant but it probably wasn't what the average dude wanted from a Muppet series. 


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Posted 02 August 2020 - 11:14 PM

i genuinely really liked the last show...i liked its more cynical and mean spirited tone. And i like this one, too. i think, maybe, i  just like the muppets, period....because me and my BFF really liked both of the recent movies as well....and it seems like NO ONE liked the second one.


Muppets Most Wanted (extended cut) is my jam. I got shouted down for it in this very thread when it came out. I havent tried the new show, Ill wait until theres a couple more episodes before I make a decision though.

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Posted 03 August 2020 - 07:25 AM

i genuinely really liked the last show...i liked its more cynical and mean spirited tone. And i like this one, too. i think, maybe, i  just like the muppets, period....because me and my BFF really liked both of the recent movies as well....and it seems like NO ONE liked the second one.

Muppets Most Wanted (extended cut) is my jam. I got shouted down for it in this very thread when it came out. I havent tried the new show, Ill wait until theres a couple more episodes before I make a decision though.

Most Wanted was very underrated and honestly, I attribute its failure to studio meddling. You can tell they forced some last minute changes.

Still a great movie with hilarious bits. The interrogation song is one of my all time favorites and Konstantine was instantly memorable.

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