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@  TheMightyMol... : (22 September 2020 - 06:16 AM)

Runamuck, Fasttrack, Sunstreaker, and Trailbreaker.

@  Nevermore : (22 September 2020 - 06:13 AM)

Cardboard and plastic.

@  Paladin : (22 September 2020 - 05:52 AM)

what's IN Wave 3, anyway?

@  Telly : (21 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

i dont think theyre due for release until november. at least thats when target says ill get trailbreaker and sunstreaker. thought the wiki says theyre out in singapore

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 September 2020 - 06:01 PM)

Has wave 3 actually reached anywhere yet?

@  Maximus Ambus : (21 September 2020 - 04:40 PM)

A few more Bearimy's for Earthrise wave 3 to reach the UK

@  Spiritofeigh... : (20 September 2020 - 05:07 PM)

Cheers pal.

@  wonko the sane? : (20 September 2020 - 04:42 PM)

Welcome aboard!

@  Spiritofeigh... : (20 September 2020 - 04:38 PM)

Hey, new to the boards

@  RichardT1977 : (20 September 2020 - 02:29 PM)

I had an idea for a Spiral Zone/Go-Busters crossover fanfic...

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

I loved what was there, and think it's pretty ripe for "renegades" style reboot.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:13 PM)

It's a shame as I loved Spiral Zone, and the design from the Japanese Toyline of the same name are fantastic, I adore the monowheel motorbike.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Hasbro doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything with the TV show, haven't greenlit any attempt to rerelease it, and there have been approaches, so I think it may be aother one of Tonka's legal carcrashes where everyone involved owns a piece and it's not really worth anyone sticking their neck out to claim ownership.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I feel that homages and references would be a fun way to expand the GI Joe brand, and give a little love to lines that are unlikely to be acknowledged beyond such capacity.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I was under the impression that Bandai was more the character design aspects, not story or characters.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:55 PM)

Also isn't it in rights limbo, given how it's loosely based on concepts from a BanDai series much like GoBots?

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:52 PM)

We don't need a Spiral Zone reboot, in a decade or so we'll be living it.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 12:49 PM)

Yeah, but it would fundamentally change the base premise of both gijoe and spiral zone. It's either not the world spanning threat it was, or the zone riders are backed up by a competent force. Either way, you compromise the context of both.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:19 PM)

Akin to what was done with Matt Tracker in 2008.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

Again, not a PURE transplant, but an integration of ideas and concepts into the world of GI Joe.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

@Wonko The Cobra Overlord, with help from Dr. Mindbender and Cesspool, develops machines capable of generating a mind-controlling fog. GI Joe stalwarts Flint, Airtight, Lifeline, and Psyche-Out are joined by Colonal Courage to infiltrate these zones and disable the machines. Figures would sport hostile environment suits (Eco warriors cross with Spiral Zone) and make new versions of the mono-wheel vehicles.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 September 2020 - 09:39 AM)

Hasbroverse.2 with bought properties: Bravestarr, Ulysses 31, Galaxy Rangers, Shadow Raiders, Manta Force, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Mighty Orbots, Jem and Bigfoot and the Muscle Machines. Seamless.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 08:32 AM)

While acknoledging spiral zone would be pretty boss, I doubt they could actively integrate it into anything else: given the scale of the villains deeds.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:03 AM)

COPS, Spiral Zone, Shadow Strikers, Action Man, Centurions, MegaForce. They wouldn’t replicate the old lines, but simply acknowledging their existence would be nifty.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:01 AM)

I would love to see GI Joe become something of a “celebration of action figures”. Hasbro has SO MANY old action figure properties, and many could slot into the GI Joe umbrella with relative ease.

@  Otaku : (19 September 2020 - 12:04 AM)

G.I. Joe, CyberCOPS, and M.A.S.K. all seem like something that would work from Animated or Prime, though CyberCOPS might have been a bit trickier from Prime.

@  Sabrblade : (18 September 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Rik Alvarez originally wanted the last episode of Prime to spinoff into a new MASK reboot.

@  Otaku : (18 September 2020 - 08:19 PM)

The failed Hasbroverse reminds me how so many things could have been spun off from Transformers: Animated and (after that) Transformers: Prime.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 12:43 PM)

Requiem of the Wreckers was post-Revolution, but it was also, you know, a single issue.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:06 AM)

But Roche didn't have a series to keep out from the crossovers since Sins of the Wreckers was before Revolution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:01 AM)

Oh wait, that post said Roche, not Barber.

@  Rycochet : (18 September 2020 - 10:46 AM)

And then seemed surprised nobody particlarly wanted it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 10:25 AM)

Wasn't Barber among the editorial guys that pushed for Hasbroverse?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 10:19 AM)

He did it possibly due to 616 Spider-Mans marriage reset between Civil War and Secret Invasion.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 09:20 AM)

Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man because it was mostly set far away from Earth?

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 September 2020 - 08:49 AM)

I'm learning so much-

@  Maruten : (18 September 2020 - 04:21 AM)

At its worst it was better than MASK, sure.

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 02:15 AM)

At it's worst it still stomped all over the failed Hasbroverse. Roberts and Roche kept their respective series well out of that one for the same reasons Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man when Loeb and Miller wanted greater control for Ultimatum.

@  Maruten : (17 September 2020 - 06:37 PM)

That's so accurate it's physically painful.

@  Rycochet : (17 September 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Red Dwarf of Transformers? An interesting, innovative and genuinely funny series that descended into a self referential mess of cliches that continues long after it should have been put out to pasture and rendered nerly everyone thoroughly unlikeable? That seems about right.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 01:59 PM)

MTMTE and Lost Light are the Red Dwarf of Transformers stories, as opposed to the others which are more like Star Wars and Star Trek.

@  Kalidor : (17 September 2020 - 01:37 PM)

Anyone in CONUS want a Skylynx for $100 shipped?

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 September 2020 - 01:34 PM)

Maybe an acquired taste in that's in that it's from a fan raised on the UK run where Transformers wasn't taken so seriously in many stories, especially some Earthforce standalones.

@  Paladin : (17 September 2020 - 09:47 AM)

so, terrible?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Yeah I think at that point Lost Light is just the '86 movie without the soundtrack.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 September 2020 - 02:28 AM)

So, exctly what Triangleman just said.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 12:36 AM)

A few of the same characters.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 12:07 AM)

Now having actually read Galaxies #10, I don't actually see what it has in common with Lost Light at all besides featuring Ultra Magnus, Chromedome, and a spaceship.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 05:33 PM)

So, it's exactly like Lost Light, then.

@  Bass X0 : (16 September 2020 - 01:52 PM)

What if Lost Light was stripped bare of its charm and humor? Galaxies #10 is the answer.


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#1 Paladin

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:00 PM

 
 
"Big Bang Theory" creator depresses & worries me me but The Muppets can rarely do wrong.

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:05 PM

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:16 PM

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.

 

Didn't that get canned after a season or two?


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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:17 PM

 

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.

 

Didn't that get canned after a season or two?

 

I was more talking about reviving the Muppet Show format in a practical sense. Muppets Tonight was pretty true to the original show.



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:17 PM

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.


http://en.wikipedia....Muppets_Tonight

Are you talking about that show? From 18 years ago? That didn't air all of the episodes they made and then got picked up by another network and still didn't make a whole season's worth of episodes before they quit?

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 10:24 PM

This should have happened in 2012, when the new movie was a critical and financial hit and The Muppets were back in the public consciousness. Doing this a year after Muppets Most Wanted was met with a collective shrug makes little sense.

 

And the involvement of people from The Big Bang Theory means I'll be actively avoiding this and hope it doesn't actually happen.



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 11:30 PM

I mean...Mr. Bazinga was in the first one and that was good...



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 11:32 PM

I don't watch Big Bang Theory, but I don't have anything against it or its producers. If new Muppets are on Netflix or Hulu, I'll watch.

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 11:49 PM

Prady has a history with Henson's people so I'm not worried about him. And if they can come up with a show half as good as Muppets Tonight they'll be lucky. It never found an audience but there was some great stuff there, and a stack of fantastic new characters who are still popular today.

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 01:03 AM

‘Muppet Show’ Reboot at ABC: Network Eyes New Series with Kermit and Miss Piggy | TVLine
 
 
"Big Bang Theory" creator depresses & worries me me but The Muppets can rarely do wrong.

 
Yeah, I'd be worried too about the guy in charge of televisions biggest comedy, which means studios have confidence in him and will give the show money, AND who started his career working for Jim Henson, doing such things as:
 
Muppet Classic Theater (Video) (written by)
The Best of Disney: 50 Years of Magic(TV Movie documentary) (written by)
Muppet*vision 3-D (Short)
The Muppets Celebrate Jim Henson (TV Movie documentary) (written by) (for which he was nominated for the Emmy)
The Earth Day Special (TV Special) (segment "Kermit the Frog")
The Jim Henson Hour(TV Series) (writer)
Muppet Madness (Video short)
Fraggle Rock(TV Series) (2 episodes)

being in charge of this.....


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 01:09 AM

Biggest does not mean good.

 

And that's a very selective reading of his credits. He's made his millions on lazy, shallow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Two And A Half Men, Dharma & Greg, and Caroline In The City.

 

Past experience with the franchise aside (and I don't think anyone would hold up his contributions as shining moments in Muppets history), that's not the guy I'd want running a network primetime Muppets show.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 03:15 AM

Your dislike of the man's career puts you pretty much in the minority of television viewers.

 

And yeah, a guy who got his start with Henson...puts him at the top of my list.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 05:16 AM

Your dislike of the man's career puts you pretty much in the minority of television viewers.

 

That has never, ever bothered me.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 07:59 AM

The way I figure it: there's the jobs you do because of your passion, and the jobs you do because of the paycheque. He's got a good upbringing, and while I do not like big bang theory, I'll give it a shot because I love the muppets. Yes, even muppets tonight. I liked it enough to try to catch it every time it aired, and be disappointed when it went away.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 08:17 AM

And that's a very selective reading of his credits. He's made his millions on lazy, shallow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Two And A Half Men, Dharma & Greg, and Caroline In The City.
 
Three of those four have been three of the most successful sitcoms in their time bracket, and I'd argue at least two of them will likely take their places alongside I Love Lucy, Seinfeld, and Friends as "The Shows that Never Really Die" and are just circulated in syndication until the last TV signal goes belly up in the digital revolution.
 
You don't have to like the guy or his body of work, but you've just rattled off a whole host of reasons why this guy is not only the smartest pick for the job, but the one most likely to make it succeed.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 09:18 AM

Just because something runs for 10 odd years then ad infinitum in syndication does not mean its a good program, it means it's a program that people like. Yes, there can be overlap, but we all know the easiest way to get something with staying power is to cater to the lowest common denominator.

 

I can see where dusty is coming from here. Do we want a new muppet show which is outstanding in its class, clever in it's execution and witty in it's writing... or do we want kermit making fart jokes?

 

To put it simply: do we want firefly or family guy? Both will get one season at least, but only one of them will actually be good.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 10:12 AM

Just because something runs for 10 odd years then ad infinitum in syndication does not mean its a good program, it means it's a program that people like. Yes, there can be overlap, but we all know the easiest way to get something with staying power is to cater to the lowest common denominator.
 
I can see where dusty is coming from here. Do we want a new muppet show which is outstanding in its class, clever in it's execution and witty in it's writing... or do we want kermit making fart jokes?
 
To put it simply: do we want firefly or family guy? Both will get one season at least, but only one of them will actually be good.


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 01:28 AM

 

And that's a very selective reading of his credits. He's made his millions on lazy, shallow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Two And A Half Men, Dharma & Greg, and Caroline In The City.
 
Three of those four have been three of the most successful sitcoms in their time bracket, and I'd argue at least two of them will likely take their places alongside I Love Lucy, Seinfeld, and Friends as "The Shows that Never Really Die" and are just circulated in syndication until the last TV signal goes belly up in the digital revolution.
 
You don't have to like the guy or his body of work, but you've just rattled off a whole host of reasons why this guy is not only the smartest pick for the job, but the one most likely to make it succeed.

 

 

He's been amazingly successful at making shows with the exact opposite sensibilities of The Muppets. If you like those shows, more power to you.

 

But if he makes it successful by making it like those shows (mean, cynical, misogynistic, dumb), then I think I'd rather not have a new show at all.


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 05:08 AM

It's a little early to know how this show will turn out, assuming it isn't just the latest in the endless line of Muppet projects that never see the light of day, but my feeling is that if Jim Henson is happy to have you working on the Muppets then I'm basically willing to give you a chance.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 04:07 PM

ABC has ordered a full season. 

 

And a brief teaser is now online: 

 

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