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@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!


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#1 Paladin

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:00 PM

 
 
"Big Bang Theory" creator depresses & worries me me but The Muppets can rarely do wrong.

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:05 PM

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:16 PM

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.

 

Didn't that get canned after a season or two?


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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:17 PM

 

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.

 

Didn't that get canned after a season or two?

 

I was more talking about reviving the Muppet Show format in a practical sense. Muppets Tonight was pretty true to the original show.



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:17 PM

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.


http://en.wikipedia....Muppets_Tonight

Are you talking about that show? From 18 years ago? That didn't air all of the episodes they made and then got picked up by another network and still didn't make a whole season's worth of episodes before they quit?

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 10:24 PM

This should have happened in 2012, when the new movie was a critical and financial hit and The Muppets were back in the public consciousness. Doing this a year after Muppets Most Wanted was met with a collective shrug makes little sense.

 

And the involvement of people from The Big Bang Theory means I'll be actively avoiding this and hope it doesn't actually happen.



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 11:30 PM

I mean...Mr. Bazinga was in the first one and that was good...



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 11:32 PM

I don't watch Big Bang Theory, but I don't have anything against it or its producers. If new Muppets are on Netflix or Hulu, I'll watch.

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 11:49 PM

Prady has a history with Henson's people so I'm not worried about him. And if they can come up with a show half as good as Muppets Tonight they'll be lucky. It never found an audience but there was some great stuff there, and a stack of fantastic new characters who are still popular today.

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 01:03 AM

‘Muppet Show’ Reboot at ABC: Network Eyes New Series with Kermit and Miss Piggy | TVLine
 
 
"Big Bang Theory" creator depresses & worries me me but The Muppets can rarely do wrong.

 
Yeah, I'd be worried too about the guy in charge of televisions biggest comedy, which means studios have confidence in him and will give the show money, AND who started his career working for Jim Henson, doing such things as:
 
Muppet Classic Theater (Video) (written by)
The Best of Disney: 50 Years of Magic(TV Movie documentary) (written by)
Muppet*vision 3-D (Short)
The Muppets Celebrate Jim Henson (TV Movie documentary) (written by) (for which he was nominated for the Emmy)
The Earth Day Special (TV Special) (segment "Kermit the Frog")
The Jim Henson Hour(TV Series) (writer)
Muppet Madness (Video short)
Fraggle Rock(TV Series) (2 episodes)

being in charge of this.....


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 01:09 AM

Biggest does not mean good.

 

And that's a very selective reading of his credits. He's made his millions on lazy, shallow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Two And A Half Men, Dharma & Greg, and Caroline In The City.

 

Past experience with the franchise aside (and I don't think anyone would hold up his contributions as shining moments in Muppets history), that's not the guy I'd want running a network primetime Muppets show.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 03:15 AM

Your dislike of the man's career puts you pretty much in the minority of television viewers.

 

And yeah, a guy who got his start with Henson...puts him at the top of my list.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 05:16 AM

Your dislike of the man's career puts you pretty much in the minority of television viewers.

 

That has never, ever bothered me.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 07:59 AM

The way I figure it: there's the jobs you do because of your passion, and the jobs you do because of the paycheque. He's got a good upbringing, and while I do not like big bang theory, I'll give it a shot because I love the muppets. Yes, even muppets tonight. I liked it enough to try to catch it every time it aired, and be disappointed when it went away.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 08:17 AM

And that's a very selective reading of his credits. He's made his millions on lazy, shallow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Two And A Half Men, Dharma & Greg, and Caroline In The City.
 
Three of those four have been three of the most successful sitcoms in their time bracket, and I'd argue at least two of them will likely take their places alongside I Love Lucy, Seinfeld, and Friends as "The Shows that Never Really Die" and are just circulated in syndication until the last TV signal goes belly up in the digital revolution.
 
You don't have to like the guy or his body of work, but you've just rattled off a whole host of reasons why this guy is not only the smartest pick for the job, but the one most likely to make it succeed.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 09:18 AM

Just because something runs for 10 odd years then ad infinitum in syndication does not mean its a good program, it means it's a program that people like. Yes, there can be overlap, but we all know the easiest way to get something with staying power is to cater to the lowest common denominator.

 

I can see where dusty is coming from here. Do we want a new muppet show which is outstanding in its class, clever in it's execution and witty in it's writing... or do we want kermit making fart jokes?

 

To put it simply: do we want firefly or family guy? Both will get one season at least, but only one of them will actually be good.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 10:12 AM

Just because something runs for 10 odd years then ad infinitum in syndication does not mean its a good program, it means it's a program that people like. Yes, there can be overlap, but we all know the easiest way to get something with staying power is to cater to the lowest common denominator.
 
I can see where dusty is coming from here. Do we want a new muppet show which is outstanding in its class, clever in it's execution and witty in it's writing... or do we want kermit making fart jokes?
 
To put it simply: do we want firefly or family guy? Both will get one season at least, but only one of them will actually be good.


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 01:28 AM

 

And that's a very selective reading of his credits. He's made his millions on lazy, shallow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Two And A Half Men, Dharma & Greg, and Caroline In The City.
 
Three of those four have been three of the most successful sitcoms in their time bracket, and I'd argue at least two of them will likely take their places alongside I Love Lucy, Seinfeld, and Friends as "The Shows that Never Really Die" and are just circulated in syndication until the last TV signal goes belly up in the digital revolution.
 
You don't have to like the guy or his body of work, but you've just rattled off a whole host of reasons why this guy is not only the smartest pick for the job, but the one most likely to make it succeed.

 

 

He's been amazingly successful at making shows with the exact opposite sensibilities of The Muppets. If you like those shows, more power to you.

 

But if he makes it successful by making it like those shows (mean, cynical, misogynistic, dumb), then I think I'd rather not have a new show at all.


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 05:08 AM

It's a little early to know how this show will turn out, assuming it isn't just the latest in the endless line of Muppet projects that never see the light of day, but my feeling is that if Jim Henson is happy to have you working on the Muppets then I'm basically willing to give you a chance.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 04:07 PM

ABC has ordered a full season. 

 

And a brief teaser is now online: 

 

https://twitter.com/...170850139963392


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