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@  PlutoniumBoss : (13 August 2020 - 08:11 PM)

The ninjas will go away, it will be fine.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 08:02 PM)

listen; i'm sure there were very fine ninjas on both sides.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 August 2020 - 07:50 PM)

My thoughts and prayers go out to the ninjas.

@  Cybersnark : (13 August 2020 - 06:36 PM)

Can we just let them have him?

@  Bass X0 : (13 August 2020 - 06:18 PM)

The president has been kidnapped by ninjas. Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the president?

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:08 PM)

At first, I obviously thought I was correct.  Then I thought perhaps the spelling had changed for some reason.  Copyright/trademark law is weird, ya know?  Now I just accept I goofed. XD

@  Otaku : (13 August 2020 - 03:07 PM)

See, that one directly applies to me.  Apparently, I'd been misreading and mispronouncing it wrong for over 30 years... and I still slip and do it the wrong way much of the time.

@  Paladin : (13 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

for the Internet age its the "Berenstain" Effect.

@  Bass X0 : (12 August 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Can you root for what The Rock is cooking!?

@  -LittleAutob... : (12 August 2020 - 10:35 AM)

sOmEoNe NoTiCeD-

@  wonko the sane? : (12 August 2020 - 07:37 AM)

I am the only one rooting for the rock these days?

@  Maximus Ambus : (12 August 2020 - 12:37 AM)

Sour grapes for the next decade until Apophis hits.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:26 PM)

Thank yoo for vatching hydroolic pthress chan-nel.

@  Hg Dragon : (11 August 2020 - 11:19 PM)

Hey, do you have any grapes?

@  Otaku : (11 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

I dunno... it sounds kind of quackers to me.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 August 2020 - 05:17 PM)

That would be nice....

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 August 2020 - 04:36 PM)

I wish I could just sit by a pond and watch ducks for a while.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers


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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:00 PM

 
 
"Big Bang Theory" creator depresses & worries me me but The Muppets can rarely do wrong.

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:05 PM

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:16 PM

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.

 

Didn't that get canned after a season or two?


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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:17 PM

 

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.

 

Didn't that get canned after a season or two?

 

I was more talking about reviving the Muppet Show format in a practical sense. Muppets Tonight was pretty true to the original show.



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 04:17 PM

Well Muppets Tonight proved it can work....possibly.


http://en.wikipedia....Muppets_Tonight

Are you talking about that show? From 18 years ago? That didn't air all of the episodes they made and then got picked up by another network and still didn't make a whole season's worth of episodes before they quit?

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 10:24 PM

This should have happened in 2012, when the new movie was a critical and financial hit and The Muppets were back in the public consciousness. Doing this a year after Muppets Most Wanted was met with a collective shrug makes little sense.

 

And the involvement of people from The Big Bang Theory means I'll be actively avoiding this and hope it doesn't actually happen.



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 11:30 PM

I mean...Mr. Bazinga was in the first one and that was good...



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Posted 03 April 2015 - 11:32 PM

I don't watch Big Bang Theory, but I don't have anything against it or its producers. If new Muppets are on Netflix or Hulu, I'll watch.

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Posted 03 April 2015 - 11:49 PM

Prady has a history with Henson's people so I'm not worried about him. And if they can come up with a show half as good as Muppets Tonight they'll be lucky. It never found an audience but there was some great stuff there, and a stack of fantastic new characters who are still popular today.

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Posted 04 April 2015 - 01:03 AM

‘Muppet Show’ Reboot at ABC: Network Eyes New Series with Kermit and Miss Piggy | TVLine
 
 
"Big Bang Theory" creator depresses & worries me me but The Muppets can rarely do wrong.

 
Yeah, I'd be worried too about the guy in charge of televisions biggest comedy, which means studios have confidence in him and will give the show money, AND who started his career working for Jim Henson, doing such things as:
 
Muppet Classic Theater (Video) (written by)
The Best of Disney: 50 Years of Magic(TV Movie documentary) (written by)
Muppet*vision 3-D (Short)
The Muppets Celebrate Jim Henson (TV Movie documentary) (written by) (for which he was nominated for the Emmy)
The Earth Day Special (TV Special) (segment "Kermit the Frog")
The Jim Henson Hour(TV Series) (writer)
Muppet Madness (Video short)
Fraggle Rock(TV Series) (2 episodes)

being in charge of this.....


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 01:09 AM

Biggest does not mean good.

 

And that's a very selective reading of his credits. He's made his millions on lazy, shallow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Two And A Half Men, Dharma & Greg, and Caroline In The City.

 

Past experience with the franchise aside (and I don't think anyone would hold up his contributions as shining moments in Muppets history), that's not the guy I'd want running a network primetime Muppets show.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 03:15 AM

Your dislike of the man's career puts you pretty much in the minority of television viewers.

 

And yeah, a guy who got his start with Henson...puts him at the top of my list.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 05:16 AM

Your dislike of the man's career puts you pretty much in the minority of television viewers.

 

That has never, ever bothered me.



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Posted 04 April 2015 - 07:59 AM

The way I figure it: there's the jobs you do because of your passion, and the jobs you do because of the paycheque. He's got a good upbringing, and while I do not like big bang theory, I'll give it a shot because I love the muppets. Yes, even muppets tonight. I liked it enough to try to catch it every time it aired, and be disappointed when it went away.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 08:17 AM

And that's a very selective reading of his credits. He's made his millions on lazy, shallow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Two And A Half Men, Dharma & Greg, and Caroline In The City.
 
Three of those four have been three of the most successful sitcoms in their time bracket, and I'd argue at least two of them will likely take their places alongside I Love Lucy, Seinfeld, and Friends as "The Shows that Never Really Die" and are just circulated in syndication until the last TV signal goes belly up in the digital revolution.
 
You don't have to like the guy or his body of work, but you've just rattled off a whole host of reasons why this guy is not only the smartest pick for the job, but the one most likely to make it succeed.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 09:18 AM

Just because something runs for 10 odd years then ad infinitum in syndication does not mean its a good program, it means it's a program that people like. Yes, there can be overlap, but we all know the easiest way to get something with staying power is to cater to the lowest common denominator.

 

I can see where dusty is coming from here. Do we want a new muppet show which is outstanding in its class, clever in it's execution and witty in it's writing... or do we want kermit making fart jokes?

 

To put it simply: do we want firefly or family guy? Both will get one season at least, but only one of them will actually be good.


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Posted 04 April 2015 - 10:12 AM

Just because something runs for 10 odd years then ad infinitum in syndication does not mean its a good program, it means it's a program that people like. Yes, there can be overlap, but we all know the easiest way to get something with staying power is to cater to the lowest common denominator.
 
I can see where dusty is coming from here. Do we want a new muppet show which is outstanding in its class, clever in it's execution and witty in it's writing... or do we want kermit making fart jokes?
 
To put it simply: do we want firefly or family guy? Both will get one season at least, but only one of them will actually be good.


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 01:28 AM

 

And that's a very selective reading of his credits. He's made his millions on lazy, shallow sitcoms like The Big Bang Theory, Two And A Half Men, Dharma & Greg, and Caroline In The City.
 
Three of those four have been three of the most successful sitcoms in their time bracket, and I'd argue at least two of them will likely take their places alongside I Love Lucy, Seinfeld, and Friends as "The Shows that Never Really Die" and are just circulated in syndication until the last TV signal goes belly up in the digital revolution.
 
You don't have to like the guy or his body of work, but you've just rattled off a whole host of reasons why this guy is not only the smartest pick for the job, but the one most likely to make it succeed.

 

 

He's been amazingly successful at making shows with the exact opposite sensibilities of The Muppets. If you like those shows, more power to you.

 

But if he makes it successful by making it like those shows (mean, cynical, misogynistic, dumb), then I think I'd rather not have a new show at all.


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 05:08 AM

It's a little early to know how this show will turn out, assuming it isn't just the latest in the endless line of Muppet projects that never see the light of day, but my feeling is that if Jim Henson is happy to have you working on the Muppets then I'm basically willing to give you a chance.

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Posted 12 May 2015 - 04:07 PM

ABC has ordered a full season. 

 

And a brief teaser is now online: 

 

https://twitter.com/...170850139963392


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