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@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:17 AM)

Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 04:17 PM)

If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

@  Bass X0 : (02 August 2020 - 12:28 PM)

There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

@  -LittleAutob... : (02 August 2020 - 10:45 AM)

The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

@  Sabrblade : (02 August 2020 - 10:14 AM)

Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

@  wonko the sane? : (02 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 August 2020 - 08:36 AM)

Beast Wars Starsream "I am AIR COMMANDER Starscream of the DECEPTICON BATTLEFLEET!"

@  Nevermore : (02 August 2020 - 07:02 AM)

I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:36 PM)

Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

@  -LittleAutob... : (01 August 2020 - 08:35 PM)

KUP!

@  Sabrblade : (01 August 2020 - 04:58 PM)

Urkel!

@  TheMightyMol... : (01 August 2020 - 03:16 PM)

Steeeeeeeeve.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 August 2020 - 02:57 AM)

LEEEROOOOOOOOY! jhenkenz...

@  Hg Dragon : (01 August 2020 - 01:21 AM)

Candleja-

@  Sabrblade : (31 July 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

@  Echowarrior : (31 July 2020 - 10:18 PM)

Spongebob!

@  TheMightyMol... : (31 July 2020 - 05:13 PM)

KHAAAAAAAN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (31 July 2020 - 03:04 PM)

Bueller? Bueller?

@  Jet : (31 July 2020 - 11:31 AM)

DONKEY!

@  Maximus Ambus : (31 July 2020 - 06:55 AM)

Spanner

@  Xaaron : (31 July 2020 - 06:49 AM)

Jetstorm

@  Nevermore : (31 July 2020 - 05:33 AM)

Tankor

@  SG Roadbuster : (31 July 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Overrun

@  lastmaximal : (31 July 2020 - 01:33 AM)

Buckethead

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 07:15 PM)

Now I wonder how many Transformers we can name with the fewest possible different names.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:38 PM)

Ransack. That's like another 20 or so.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 July 2020 - 06:18 PM)

"Prowl". There, that's at least fifteen.

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Or do you want people to spam the Squawkbox with lists of 100 characters?

@  Nevermore : (30 July 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Oky, just one question: If I were to say "Yes, I could", how could you be sure I'm not lying?


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#21 LV!

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 04:55 PM

I sure HOPE Ser-Ket is being pimped here in preparation for her FSS toy.

 

And that, you know, said toy is actually the Ripclaw mold.



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 04:56 PM

Yeah, them too.

 

Also, Bulge is a BWU version of the Galaxy Force Micron, right?



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 05:10 PM

I sure HOPE Ser-Ket is being pimped here in preparation for her FSS toy.
 
And that, you know, said toy is actually the Ripclaw mold.

Sure looked like the Ripclaw mold in the illustrations.

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 05:15 PM

Also, thank goodness this gets rid of that "Galen Kord" nonsense.

 

I honestly do not understand why that would have been such a bad thing. 



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 05:31 PM

 

I sure HOPE Ser-Ket is being pimped here in preparation for her FSS toy.
 
And that, you know, said toy is actually the Ripclaw mold.

Sure looked like the Ripclaw mold in the illustrations.

 

 

It looks like Ripclaw's mold the way Buzzclaw looks like he BW toy. They're all still vehicular versions of their beast modes. 

 

Hence Ser-Ket having wheels.



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 08:49 PM

This is really great stuff.  I'm only really a fringe Transformers collector, but Beast Wars was right in my wheelhouse, and I really dig what Jim and David are doing here.  I haven't been a member of the TFCC in several years, but that might just be changing...



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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:11 PM

I joined up because I had been thinking about it for ages and really like the look of the Lio Convoy toy. The prose is doing a great job of making me even more eager.

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Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:51 PM

Fantastic story. More of this, and more toys of these characters.

 

Would definitely be interested if next year's FSS had a number of characters from this timeline in it.


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#29 Rosicrucian

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 12:30 AM

For fembots alone we could do Ser-Ket, Blackarachnia from Chromia...

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 12:52 AM

All the Micromasters. No, listen, all.

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#31 Creedence

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 03:37 AM

But all named Micromasters are already based on Micromaster and Mini-Con toys?

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 05:44 AM

oh my god i love the whole Fort Max connection thing to the maximals
 
the Cyberdroid bit felt vaguely Minority Report-ish

It reminded me of the Cylons controlling the basestars in the Battlestar Galactica remake. The whole thing with cryptic but prophetic sentences mixed with status reports.

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 09:15 AM

 

oh my god i love the whole Fort Max connection thing to the maximals
 
the Cyberdroid bit felt vaguely Minority Report-ish

It reminded me of the Cylons controlling the basestars in the Battlestar Galactica remake. The whole thing with cryptic but prophetic sentences mixed with status reports.

 

 

Just wait till someone translates the scene transition text!



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Posted 17 March 2015 - 09:37 AM

 

 

oh my god i love the whole Fort Max connection thing to the maximals
 
the Cyberdroid bit felt vaguely Minority Report-ish

It reminded me of the Cylons controlling the basestars in the Battlestar Galactica remake. The whole thing with cryptic but prophetic sentences mixed with status reports.

 

 

Just wait till someone translates the scene transition text!

 



#35 The Magic Man

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 09:40 AM

I love how in the first scene, the text keeps bringing up armordillo's stolen rocket launcher. But he stole it from Drancron, which means he's lugging around a SEVERED HEAD

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 11:14 AM

Just wait till someone translates the scene transition text!

"sending such flame from frosen brest"?

#37 Rosicrucian

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 11:33 AM

Just wait till someone translates the scene transition text!

*Lights the McFeely Signal*

#38 Creedence

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 02:29 PM

Well, I guess, I'll do them all...

Green: sending such flame from frosen brest
Red: riots erupting across the southern hemisphere tensions escalating paroxyms of violence surge
Green: memories of sorrow break upon the shore like waves on the beach like
Blue: 7 degree alignment correction

Red: -der Assembly paralyzed by inexperience
Green: too many years decades centuries of petty infighting of
Blue: quantum lens receiver experiences 1,224% power sure compensate
Green: might as well be walking on the sun
Red: Damaxus only the latest in a

Blue: increase the efficiency of the antimatter charm pulser by 1,0339% if
Green: Llyra my wife my mother Where bloody Tybalt, yet but green in earth, ties festering
Red: Maximal interventionalism exceptionalism an existential thread that Predacon rivalry

Green: peasants of that land Wondering to lay
Red: seeking necessary redress but equilibrium too fragile
Blue: dorsal osmotic vacuum matrix miscalibration END OF LINE
Red: redeploy 113th Micromaster battalion to Simfur in anticipation of resistance

Blue: completely resynchronize the primary and auxiliary autosequencers in
Green: sunlight moonlight moonshine cocacola chocolate the touch of
Red: manufacturing output necessary for fullscale militarization beyond the capacity
Green: as we

Green: bearing the sound of a quiver in the empty air out the reins as
Blue: core sink 11925 experiences slight tenancy to overheat with redirecting of coolant
Green: to feel the thrill of opening a gift
Red: that intercepted transmissions suggest a 12-

Red: to Grid Digilaut
Green: What men or gods are these What maidens loth What mad pursuit what struggle
Blue: to redirect emergency response nanoswarms to pullulate at coordinates 372 by 994, subsection 18
Red: as rebel assault gamma commences 3 solar

Green: by the ocean, it was so dismal
Red: Gamma thrust now 92,3% likely in the next 10 cycles vulnerable means of ingress include sewage linkage energy counduits optic port gravity relay bundles
Blue: energy reserves insufficient for full spal-

Red: warning!! Optical breach, dexter, response team to alert status deploy to primary and secondary vertical trunks
Green: youre in the jungle baby you gonna die
Blue: 39,2 kilounits of trans, aluminum required from synthesizer banks 11 to 14 reroute sensor

Green: -ide is loosed, and everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned END OF LINE
Blue: Delta and sigma regions experiencing ongoing oxidation damage (fire) prep trans, cog for minlevel internal spin
Red: for first responders critically low

Green: -tted to the sphere Our missiles always make too short an arc
Red: Mental penetration of Predacon designated Buzzclaw now 17% reiterate request to Builder Assembly to release energon reserves for Micromaster reserve forces
Blue: asymetrical multitronic ca-

Red: -lysis of strategy indicates anomalous behavior
Green: the angel begged permission
Blue: damage of relays 3447 and 3472 prevent accurate assessment and direction of nano repair circuitry END OF LINE
Green: the start not so out of reach for Lio Convoy as for us

Red: -eration of Predacon designated Buzzclaw now 100% Predacon designated SerKet was the key
Green: all you need is love
Blue: fire suppressing systems overwhelmed initiating O2 lockdown END OF LINE
Green: Olin how could you turn out so different from Galen your twin always Sco-

Red: -rts 1, 3 not found retrying socket error 114 ports 1, 3 not found retrying socket error 114 ports 1, 3 not found retrying socket error 114 ports 1, 3 not found

Plasma Kord Where are you I am lonely

Edited by Creedence, 17 March 2015 - 06:31 PM.


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Posted 17 March 2015 - 02:37 PM

....Damn.



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Posted 17 March 2015 - 03:07 PM

Identified quotes by Plasma:

 

Sending such flame from frozen breast: Ye know my hear, my lady dear, classical poem by Thomas Wyatt

 

memories of sorrow;?

 

llyra: unknown, but with that spelling is most likely the daughter of Lord Zarak.

 

Where bloody Tybalt: Romeo and Juliet.

 

might as well be walking on the sun: Smash Mouth song?

 

petty infighting: ?

 

peasants of the land: A Dream of Death, by William Butler Yeats

 

sunlight moonlight: ?

 

bearing the sound of a quiver: Metamorphoses by Ovid.

 

to feel the thrill: ?

 

what men or gods: John Keats odes (don't know which one)

 

down by the ocean: Redondo Beach by Patti Smith.

 

you're in the jungle: Welcome to the Jungle, by Guns N Roses.

 

ceremony of innocence: The Second Coming poem.

 

our missiles make to short an arc: The Soldier by Robert Frost.

 

angel begged permission: Emily Dickinson poem

 

so out of reach: ?

 

all you need is love: Beatles

 

Olin: Presumably something about Olin Zarak that his father said about him.


Edited by Verity Carlo, 17 March 2015 - 03:13 PM.