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@  Benbot : (23 July 2019 - 10:04 AM)

That does sound like fun.

@  Dekafox : (23 July 2019 - 09:35 AM)

Fun note: in the US(at least), by default if someone has your routing number and account number off a check, they can pull as much money out as they want with nothing you can do about it until after the fact.

@  Paladin : (23 July 2019 - 07:23 AM)

anything burns if it gets hot enough.

@  Benbot : (23 July 2019 - 07:12 AM)

That's why you should keep your under-the-bed money in gold and silver--that won't burn!

@  NotVeryKnightly : (23 July 2019 - 05:34 AM)

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20171003-proof-that-people-have-always-complained-about-young-adults

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 July 2019 - 02:24 AM)

Disparaging the youth has been a pastime for thousands of years. Pretty much every society we have writing from has some version of "kids these days" at some point.

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 July 2019 - 02:21 AM)

Numfar! dance of pain.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (23 July 2019 - 01:49 AM)

If the USA vanished from Earth prior to millennials (later to be joined by Generation Z) coming of age, would the global community have the same magnitude of disparaging upon youths as a pastime because old boomers are insecure about their inability to handle new technology?

@  Ashley : (23 July 2019 - 12:02 AM)

This wasn't that, this was a "we don't trust banks!" thing

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 July 2019 - 11:57 PM)

Well I know when I first got my back pay for disability, some of the paperwork said I couldn't have so much in the bank after 30 days...so I had to take out a huge chunk of cash.

@  Ashley : (22 July 2019 - 11:53 PM)

I know a family who lost thousands of dollars in a house fire because they were literally keeping it under the bed. Don't underestimate the USA's luddism.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (22 July 2019 - 10:39 PM)

The US is filled with people LITERALLY proud of their ignorance of tech. Don't expect the US to be a major power in the next 30 years.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2019 - 10:25 PM)

Most people in Australia that I've heard of use electronic transactions for rent (and similar things). I mean, doubtless there are some people who use cash for various reasons of varying levels of ethics, but most require electronic transfers.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:22 PM)

But I don't understand Paladin's premise of "allowing the landlord access to one's bank account". I'm pretty sure I have acquaintances who pay monthly by check or automated bank transfer.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:15 PM)

I know many lower-end restaurants in the USA take cash only as a probable method of tax evasion. Perhaps that is why some landlords do as well. Alternatively, such people demand cash upfront because they have thin profit margins or whatever and are too afraid of spending the time and effort to pursue someone whose check or electronic payment bounced.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 July 2019 - 09:14 PM)

@Nevermore The USA is a place where lots of people can proliferate at being technologically behind. e.g. almost no one accepts or pays by contactless yet despite the inherent security of the process. And by having a population of over 300 million we can generate large quantities of believers in the Luddite fallacy and such.

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 July 2019 - 07:59 PM)

I pay by credit card whenever possible for the rewards/points, but utilities don't usually allow that so those I just pay through the online bill payment feature rather than mess around with pre-authorizations

@  TM2-Megatron : (22 July 2019 - 07:57 PM)

Most monthly or whatever payments are done electronically around here, I think. Mine certainly are. Whether by pre-authorized debit, an e-transfer (transfer from one bank account to another), or your bank's online bill payment system/database

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:04 PM)

If I overpaid, it may take several months for them to pay me back the difference. If I underpaid, they're very quick with demanding the difference.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:03 PM)

Meanwhile, I can write a tax report, but since the employer already deduced the standard legal taxes from my monthly payment, the tax report is also mostly just to let the tax authority determine if I underpaid or overpaid.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:02 PM)

Based on my average costs for the year, they will then calculate the estimated monthly costs for the upcoming year.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 07:01 PM)

At the end of the year, the power company will send me an annual invoice which shows if I overpaid or underpaid. If I overpaid, the difference may just be deduced from my December bill.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:59 PM)

I also pay my monthly gas and electricity bills that way.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:59 PM)

It's funny. Here in Germany, many people still pay cash in stores, restaurants etc. (the staff usually asks "cash or wireless?"), but many regular payments are handled wirelessly and automatically.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:57 PM)

Around the same time, I get sent a slip from payroll that lists my gross income, all the deductions and the net income, i.e. the final transaction sum.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:56 PM)

My monthly payment from my employer is wirelessly transferred to my bank account. Taxes, health insurance, unemployment insurance and social security fees are calculated by the payroll department, handled by the employer, and I just get paid the rest after taxes and everything.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 06:55 PM)

yes. you're assuming US employers would pay fairly & take fairly.

@  Telly : (22 July 2019 - 06:55 PM)

we dont get paid on a monthly basis, if thats what you mean. i myself get paid every 2 weeks. some are every week. and if im telling you something you already know, just ignore me...

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:54 PM)

Which I assume doesn't work that way in the US either?

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:53 PM)

That way you may time the transaction with your monthly payment from your employer.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:52 PM)

You don't need to give the landlord access to anything. You go to your bank, show the clerk your bank account card, give them the landlord's bank details, tell them the exact amount of the rent and which day of the month the transaction should happen, sign the order, and you're done.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 06:49 PM)

most Americans wouldn't trust a landlord with access to their bank account.

@  Nevermore : (22 July 2019 - 06:47 PM)

Do people in other countries really still pay their landlords in cash? Here in Germany, it's very common to have the payment as an automated bank transaction on a set day of the month, so if the payment is late, it's either the bank's fault, or there's not enough money on the bank account.

@  Paladin : (22 July 2019 - 05:46 PM)

meanwhile some of us are trying to calculate if they'll have a spare forty bucks at the end of the week for some food...

@  unluckiness : (22 July 2019 - 07:20 AM)

At least I can see where the 600 US bucks is going in this case. The MP line looks more ridiculous by the day.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 July 2019 - 07:09 AM)

It's ridiculous. I'll stick to Armadacron

@  unluckiness : (22 July 2019 - 06:13 AM)

If anything, shipping is going to make the actual toy's price look affordable.

@  Pennpenn : (22 July 2019 - 02:28 AM)

Its like, $550 ish in US money (so probably about $800 for my Australian self) and is taller than TR Fort Max. He's gonna be a hefty boy.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 July 2019 - 10:05 PM)

Damn, that Unicron looks big. Not gonna be cheap

@  wonko the sane? : (21 July 2019 - 09:09 PM)

"By the way, your landlord called. Something about being late with the rent."

@  Nevermore : (21 July 2019 - 04:09 PM)

"Hi there, I'm Unicron. Your husband ordered me."

@  unluckiness : (21 July 2019 - 09:04 AM)

"Perhaps I misjudged you. Proceed on your way to the couch."

@  Donocropolis : (21 July 2019 - 07:33 AM)

I'm just afraid of what my wife would do to me if it showed up at our door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 July 2019 - 01:23 AM)

Giant Robot Satan has that effect on people.

@  Ashley : (21 July 2019 - 12:31 AM)

So, I might not be able to get Hasbro Pulse Unicron because my mother is afraid of it

@  Pennpenn : (20 July 2019 - 09:58 PM)

But that's neither here nor there.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 July 2019 - 06:57 PM)

Six of one, half-dozen of the other.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 July 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Both maybe?

@  Benbot : (20 July 2019 - 04:44 PM)

Do you need a criminal lawyer or a criminal, lawyer.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 July 2019 - 10:40 AM)

I don't suppose the allspark has any criminal lawyers from Georgia. ;P


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#1 Cybersnark

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Posted 01 March 2015 - 02:21 PM

So, a year ago, a Japanese production company called Every Star put out a call for general outlines for a 60-minute mecha anime. Finalists (last June) presented entries in character design, mecha design, and screenplay, and Every Star then used that to produce these five short promo videos.

The video with the most views by the end of March will be turned into a full production --place your votes, folks.

(Before the bitching begins, let me repeat again, these are proof-of-concept PROMOTIONAL VIDEOS, so yes, the production values aren't up to whatever cinematic standards you're surely comparing them too. :rolleyes )

Enthusiast! -The Custom-
Looks like a straightforward shounen sports anime, with car-based robots performing parkour racing.

RS Project
Looks like a straightforward alien invasion story, where the hero pilots a mecha that screws with his mind.

deadEndSparks
Years ago, giant monsters attacked and were defeated by a super hero team of mecha pilots. Now, those same mecha have turned up in the hands of a terrorist organization, and it's up to an amnesiac ex-hero to stop them.

Gyoko no Dean-Drive/Day Break Dean-Drive
Another fairly-standard alien invasion story, made interesting by the setting (post-apocalypse reconstruction-era), the mecha (which has been excavated from the ruins), and the lead character (who is a female lead in a mecha series).

Hoshi no Yarikago/Star Storks
This is the interesting one: mankind is extinct, and a race of intelligent mecha are trying to restore humanity and fight off an invasion. They produce one successful human, and three mecha try to escort the child to another galaxy in search of more humans.

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Posted 01 March 2015 - 04:49 PM

Of the concepts, the only one that grabbed me was Gyoko no Dean-Drive. Seems like a nice blend of action and cute, but not over the top cute.

Enthusiast seemed like it was missing an oppurtunity by not having the mechs transform from car to robot. That would be interesting to see, the pilots controlling the transformations as they maneuver the courses. The mech designs also seem lazy, with the car parts basically just sitting on to of the frame.

RS Project feels like something I've seen before, and the mech designs feel like they're meant to be made into model kits. The story might drive this one, but this promo does nothing for me.

deadEndSparks sounds like an interesting take on the Sentai genre, but I didn't see anything like that in the promo. The promo also didn't feel as fleshed out as the other four with all the repeated footage.

Star Storks looks like it could make for a great kids anime, but really didn't do anything for me.
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Posted 01 March 2015 - 05:12 PM

They're all decent pitches but at the same time not a million miles away from what we get anyway. Dean Drive for instance feels like something I'd expect to see from either Sunrise or Bones.

 

The Custom is easily the weakest. The designs are boring and impractical (you can bounce straight out of them with no harness at that speed?)

 

Star Storks is the one I hope wins. It's a clever concept and I like that apparently certain robots have evolved to the point their designs look semi-organic. Would be a more interesting story to explore than the millionth 'angsty teen must pilot elite mecha'.



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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:01 PM

Star Storks is the only one that grabbed me, everything else smacks of the same cookie cutter "style over substance" snoozefest I've encountered again and again.

Unfortunately, I didn't much care for its animation quality. Concept and design are fantastic, though. If it wins, I hope it's visually more appealing than what is shown in that promo.



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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:11 PM

I actually kinda like the Enthusiast designs in concept. The thing that was bothering me was the feet - they need proper wheels. I think the exposed pilot bottoms are cute, as are the literal car parts. It doesn't offer anything all that interesting as a story concept, and I know it'd be Rideback all over again. (A girl who used to be a dancer finds a new competition in illegal street racing and begins to regain confidence in herself and make new bonds - and then WAR TERRORISM ALIENS SEKRIT TECHNOLOGY SAVE THE WORLD.)

 

Star Storks does seem interesting as a concept, but I don't like it visually.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 01 March 2015 - 06:11 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:21 PM

I actually kinda like the Enthusiast designs in concept. The thing that was bothering me was the feet - they need proper wheels. I think the exposed pilot bottoms are cute, as are the literal car parts. It doesn't offer anything all that interesting as a story concept, and I know it'd be Rideback all over again. (A girl who used to be a dancer finds a new competition in illegal street racing and begins to regain confidence in herself and make new bonds - and then WAR TERRORISM ALIENS SEKRIT TECHNOLOGY SAVE THE WORLD.)

 

Star Storks does seem interesting as a concept, but I don't like it visually.

For me it's the fact that they look like a very bland cross between cars and robots. We've seen that idea done with other mecha shows and more dynamically. Heck, Go Nagai credits cars as the inspiration for how the pilot docks with Mazinger Z.

 

The designs are kinda realistic but in a way that feels boring. If it got picked up, I'd want to see more dynamic and customised units.



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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:25 PM

Based on premise alone Star Storks appeals the most, I like AI and it seems like a nice play on Brave series tropes.

 

I like the mecha design in RS the most, but I'd probably enjoy Dean-Drive. Dead End Sparks sounds like the one whose plot might be the most interesting, but to be honestly any of these shows could have potential.

 

 

 I know it'd be Rideback all over again. (A girl who used to be a dancer finds a new competition in illegal street racing and begins to regain confidence in herself and make new bonds - and then WAR TERRORISM ALIENS SEKRIT TECHNOLOGY SAVE THE WORLD.)

 

Uh, what are you talking about? There were no aliens or world salvation or anything like that in Rideback.


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:34 PM

A valid question- how many of these aren't gonna be meddled with further if they do win?

 

It's not unheard of for an anime show to produce a pilot reel that is markedly different from what we actually get when the show starts airing.



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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:42 PM

Honestly unless the show is designed for a product kit line right away it's not likely at all.

 

Most mecha anime these days just does its' run and then plamo or whatever get announced after the show has aired and disseminated.


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:45 PM

Uh, what are you talking about? There were no aliens or world salvation or anything like that in Rideback.

I exaggerated. The premise could have been interesting, and then it went in stupidly grandiose directions.


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Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:49 PM

 

Uh, what are you talking about? There were no aliens or world salvation or anything like that in Rideback.

I exaggerated. The premise could have been interesting, and then it went in stupidly grandiose directions.

 

 

No, it really didn't. It's literally a mecha anime about a college activist.


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:56 PM

There's an honest to god yer-a-wizard-Harry moment in there, there's the totally unnecessary backstory idea that the mechs were weapons that changed the course of the war, etc., etc. There were nods toward a conceit that the machines were just this world's analogue to motorcycles, and that would have been a more interesting series to me. I couldn't take the series as delivered seriously. 


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 06:58 PM

Honestly I have no idea what you're on about. Those two concepts aren't mutually exclusive.


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 07:14 PM

It's like if model trains were revealed to be secretly the most effective counter-terrorism weapon known to science. 

 

But, like, I don't actually care if you know what I'm on about? I didn't like the series? I wouldn't like to see a "sports" anime awkwardly saddled with a premise from some other genre entirely, and worry that Enthusiast! here would be saddled with the same phenomenon? 


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 07:26 PM

 

It's like if model trains were revealed to be secretly the most effective counter-terrorism weapon known to science.

 

No, it's like how the military pioneers technology first then it ends up in civilian use. Don't be obtuse.


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 07:36 PM

Don't be obtuse.

You're saying that to me, right now, in this conversation? I got nothing.


Edited by Copper Bezel, 01 March 2015 - 07:36 PM.

Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?

 


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 07:41 PM

 

Don't be obtuse.

You're saying that to me, right now, in this conversation? I got nothing.

 

 

Oh yeah? How about a photo?

 

Let's see, a vehicle that was designed by the military, was part of a movement towards new tactics and strategies that changed the face of warfare, then was remade for civilian life. And then it and others like it ended up part of terrorist groups and dissident rebels the world over.

 

Hmm.

 

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Posted 01 March 2015 - 07:43 PM

Hime, I'm being entirely serious right now. If you feel that that is a reasonable comparison, or if you think that I care enough about Rideback to explain why it's not, I'm going to have to leave it to you to sort out the details why you're wrong.


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 07:47 PM

Hime, I'm being entirely serious right now. If you feel that that is a reasonable comparison, or if you think that I care enough about Rideback to explain why it's not, I'm going to have to leave it to you to sort out the details why you're wrong.

 

So I'm wrong because you made a silly hyperbolic statement about why some show is unrealistic when the same thing happened in real life?

 

Okay then.


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Posted 01 March 2015 - 08:10 PM

I think that an attempt at being "realistic" actually isn't one of Rideback's faults in the first place and wouldn't be the way to defend it, but mostly I just don't feel like playing this game with you today. Some other time.


Shouldn't gravity be doing something?
 
Of course there's a figure of Rodimus as some kind of animal girl. Why would I be surprised by this?