Jump to content


Toggle shoutbox Squawkbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

Please don't post Youtube videos in the chat box. The forums software auto embeds them. 

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 August 2020 - 03:52 AM)

Others say Joe sat down at this pond next to these ducks but really there's just no place in this world for an old man and his ducks.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P


Photo

DC's Legends of Tomorrow


818 replies to this topic

#21 Cat

Cat
  • Retired Staff
  • 11612 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Australia
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 02 March 2015 - 11:54 PM

What a world we live in where we can actually reasonably speculate that Hourman might be in a live action tv show.


This year is his 75th anniversary too, so it took long enough. I do wonder which version they'd do. I assume Rick (just a great grandson now), but with Ivo being involved I don't feel I can quite rule out Hourman III, even though Arrowverse Ivo wasn't quite into that like the comics (or not so far, I'm still finishing up S2). Rex would be possible, but they're already drowning in scientist heroes, so I figure Rick would be the most likely.

Dr Mid-Nite would also be perfect. Never been done as Live-Action, he's a rarity in that he's ACTUALLY a doctor, which would come in super-handy for everyone else. I'm talking about the modern version, Dr Pieter Cross, not the original. Using the modern version also means they can play around with a possible love triangle plot, as in the comics Dinah dated Dr Mid-Nite for a large chunk of the time while Oliver was dead. He's also a pretty cool looking character.


Edited by Cat, 03 March 2015 - 03:54 AM.


#22 skankerzero

skankerzero

    Back in DFW!

  • Citizen
  • 7459 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Dallas, TX
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 03 March 2015 - 08:53 AM

I'd love to see Psycho Pirate in live action too.


-----------
jesse sosa
owner / creative director
Dinosaur Games

#23 Cat

Cat
  • Retired Staff
  • 11612 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Australia
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 15 March 2015 - 03:04 AM

Here's the character info from casting calls. Spoiler material, I guess, though it's only descriptions, no names.


One does sound like Kendra Saunders, but I don't know if that'd be possible. Hawkman on Smallville was pretty bad. The wings were terrible. I wonder if she'd make it onto Arrow and hook up with Roy. IF that is her. Description fits perfectly, but it fits just as perfectly for Wildcat II. Wouldn't have thought of her except for Scav mentioning her in the Arrow thread. I'd say she's the far likelier candidate.

There's also a line from Caity Lotz, if you consider that a spoiler too.

http://www.ecumenica...tery-hero-28640

Edited by Cat, 15 March 2015 - 03:10 AM.


#24 Dusty

Dusty
  • Citizen
  • 5850 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 15 March 2015 - 03:25 AM

My guesses would be Booster Gold, Hawkgirl, and Static.

 

I'm still not sure what the deal is with Caity Lotz.



#25 Scavgraphics

Scavgraphics

    Sometimes bad ponies make the best good ponies!

  • Supporter
  • 6393 posts
  • Faction::Equestrian

Posted 15 March 2015 - 04:34 AM

Except, Booster was on Smallville, so he violates the "never on tv" clue.

 

DC might not own the rights to Static anymore...the whole Milestone 2.0 thing is throwing questions that way.

 

I've seen some speculation that the latina woman could be be Yolanda Montez, Wild Cat II, or Bea Decosta, Fire.



#26 Dusty

Dusty
  • Citizen
  • 5850 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 15 March 2015 - 05:00 AM

I don't put much stock in the "never been on TV before" thing. It seemed like an offhand comment from the network, rather than from Berlanti or Johns. Keep in mind there are probably going to be a lot more DCU characters on this too, it's not necessarily these three that would fit that bill.



#27 Cat

Cat
  • Retired Staff
  • 11612 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Australia
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 15 March 2015 - 05:19 AM

I think the other live-action Static project is probably more of a problem. It seems different to the other movie/TV examples to me, although this would be a more mature version of the character.

It's sad that so few characters come to mind, even with such a generic description.

#28 Dusty

Dusty
  • Citizen
  • 5850 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 15 March 2015 - 06:07 AM

It could be Black Lightning, as that one site mused. John Stewart would fit that general description too.



#29 skankerzero

skankerzero

    Back in DFW!

  • Citizen
  • 7459 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Dallas, TX
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 15 March 2015 - 10:21 AM

I still think its Fury. By day she tries to fit in with society and by night she's Fury.

 

Although Fire would be pretty awesome.


-----------
jesse sosa
owner / creative director
Dinosaur Games

#30 Dusty

Dusty
  • Citizen
  • 5850 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 15 March 2015 - 05:35 PM

Although Fire would be pretty awesome.

 

They did say her fury gets "ignited," and these people love their stupid puns.



#31 skankerzero

skankerzero

    Back in DFW!

  • Citizen
  • 7459 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Dallas, TX
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 15 March 2015 - 05:47 PM

good point, that's why I thought it could be Fury too.


-----------
jesse sosa
owner / creative director
Dinosaur Games

#32 Scavgraphics

Scavgraphics

    Sometimes bad ponies make the best good ponies!

  • Supporter
  • 6393 posts
  • Faction::Equestrian

Posted 16 March 2015 - 02:40 AM

As Fire has been one of my favorite characters (what can I say, it was the Adam Hughes JLI which introduced me to a lot of DC), I'd like to see her, but really only if they go the all out glamourous super model/super spy version of her, which would likely not fly in todays...culture.



#33 Fero McPigletron

Fero McPigletron

    Not a Maverick! Maybe.

  • Citizen
  • 9217 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Asia
  • Faction::Maximal

Posted 16 March 2015 - 08:58 AM

Why wouldn't it fit? Fire would fill the ethnic quota too. She'd also fit the idea of it being a lgbt related team of heroes.

The only problem is having both her and Firestorm being redundantly flame themed ish.

FWXOT0z.gif

   TOY DRAMA THEATER!

1 minute of (minimal) lights, (steady) camera and...  ACTION FIGURES! (mostly Transformers) - Episode 031: Combiners and chest envy 

Episodes here


#34 skankerzero

skankerzero

    Back in DFW!

  • Citizen
  • 7459 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Dallas, TX
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 16 March 2015 - 11:03 AM

Why wouldn't it fit? Fire would fill the ethnic quota too. She'd also fit the idea of it being a lgbt related team of heroes.

The only problem is having both her and Firestorm being redundantly flame themed ish.

He's talking about how she was a bit of a Latina / Brazilian stereotype.


-----------
jesse sosa
owner / creative director
Dinosaur Games

#35 Scavgraphics

Scavgraphics

    Sometimes bad ponies make the best good ponies!

  • Supporter
  • 6393 posts
  • Faction::Equestrian

Posted 16 March 2015 - 01:05 PM

Well, more, she was a bit of a sexpot, show off her body, type.
I don't know how she falls into a LGBT area....and I'm sure I'm gonna roll my eyes and say FFS when I find out...

#36 skankerzero

skankerzero

    Back in DFW!

  • Citizen
  • 7459 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Dallas, TX
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 16 March 2015 - 01:19 PM

ah, fair enough.

 

Real Brazilian women are like that but I'm sure the American public will cry sexism over it.


-----------
jesse sosa
owner / creative director
Dinosaur Games

#37 Fero McPigletron

Fero McPigletron

    Not a Maverick! Maybe.

  • Citizen
  • 9217 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Asia
  • Faction::Maximal

Posted 16 March 2015 - 02:01 PM

Hehe, I remember the sexual innuendo Hawkgirl Shayera made over Flash mooning over Fire in that JLU ep. Something like "... You like her? I heard she is... Brazilian...". and they were glancing at Fire while she was together with Ice, haha.

And im just joking about the new team being gay in-universe. It was really more about the actors involved, sorry.

FWXOT0z.gif

   TOY DRAMA THEATER!

1 minute of (minimal) lights, (steady) camera and...  ACTION FIGURES! (mostly Transformers) - Episode 031: Combiners and chest envy 

Episodes here


#38 000

000
  • Citizen
  • 2803 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::Maximal

Posted 16 March 2015 - 05:37 PM

Well crap, guess Robbie Amell wasn't left off of the press release for being lesser-known...

http://www.ew.com/ar...eam-movies?asdf

I guess it's pretty lucky that they already established Jason Rusch, wonder if that guy's available now.

Edited by Aberration, 16 March 2015 - 05:38 PM.


#39 Dusty

Dusty
  • Citizen
  • 5850 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 16 March 2015 - 05:50 PM

I'm actually not that torn up about that. Robbie Amell is a fairly limited actor, and I don't think he's been all that great as Ronnie. If they end up going with Jason in the new show I'm fine with that.



#40 skankerzero

skankerzero

    Back in DFW!

  • Citizen
  • 7459 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Dallas, TX
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 16 March 2015 - 06:05 PM

Well, it could be good, it could be bad.

 

They didn't say he was left off for any bad reason just that they 'can't say why'. Perhaps a plot point?


-----------
jesse sosa
owner / creative director
Dinosaur Games



Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users