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@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 09:01 PM)

True, but IIRC Spike had more screen time during Costa's run.

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 07:31 PM)

AHM deserves some of the blame for Spike, McCarthy was the one who made him the unlikeable army guy in the first place and had Optimus go 'Oh Spike, you're so manly, earth needs you. We should totally be best friends now!' 'No, it doesn't matter how hard you fought to save Earth or how many of your own kind were killed offpanel, we can never be friends with you so begone! Now, if you don't mind, I have a prisoner of war to drive about in and nurses to boink.'

@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 06:05 PM)

AHM was bad, yeah, but I feel Costa was worse. Spike is the absolute worst character in the IDW comics, which really sucks since I like cartoon Spike.

@  Dracula : (27 March 2017 - 05:22 PM)

I haven't read AHM but as I understand it's very "story beats taken from Budiansky bios"

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 05:18 PM)

was referring more to how he was suspected of being a traitor in g1. and dreamwave. and 2001 rid. it was sarcastic, hence the :rolleyes  lol

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 05:10 PM)

Don't expect major events to be forshadowed.

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:57 PM)

wow! what a twist! mirage is suspected of being a traitor! :rolleyes

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:49 PM)

yeah im only on issue 4 and its only been like 30 minutes since i started. lots of splash pages and very little dialog

@  unitremover : (27 March 2017 - 04:47 PM)

I read it for the first time about a year ago and my main problem with it was just how little content there seemed to be in the individual issues. I remember thinking that it took probably three issues before I felt like it had really delivered a "proper" issue's worth of story.

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:33 PM)

id rather read about the galaxy-wide war than yet another story on earth. thats one of the things i loved about formerly r.i.d. but when they went back before combiner wars i lost interest. i read til all are one because of this.

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 04:24 PM)

It's one of those stories that gets slightly better with age because you know that IDW comics recover, but at the time it was a massive step back, a complex universe where the war was being fought across the galaxy swept away offpanel and replaced by n episode of the cartoon with blood..And there's a fan character we were told we were going to love, inserted to lecture the Autobots.

@  Bass X0 : (27 March 2017 - 04:12 PM)

Its not a bad story really, but then I've read actual bad TF event stories by IDW that came later. There is one major turnabout that happens off panel with no explanation that should have been addressed better though.

@  Telly : (27 March 2017 - 04:08 PM)

im about to start reading all hail megatron. wish me luck...

@  RC85747 : (27 March 2017 - 03:56 PM)

Bow to the evil unicorn

@  RichardT1977 : (27 March 2017 - 03:55 PM)

The G1 film had multiple good songs.

@  Dracula : (27 March 2017 - 03:37 PM)

he ain't the sharpest tool in the shed

@  Robowang : (27 March 2017 - 03:36 PM)

he's fat.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 March 2017 - 02:39 PM)

What do y'all think of Shrek?

@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 01:51 PM)

Put down that chainsaw and listen to me! It's time for us to join in the fight!

@  Evac : (27 March 2017 - 01:51 PM)

At least the G1 film had one good song.

@  Boomhauer : (27 March 2017 - 01:27 PM)

I think I'd rather take neither, because ROTF being awful doesn't magically make the G1 Film stop being terrible.

@  Bass X0 : (27 March 2017 - 12:56 PM)

I'll take a children's movie where everyone talks like Wreck-Gar over a children's movie that has dog sex, masturbation, drugs, golden showers and enemy scrotum.

@  Rycochet : (27 March 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Oh-ee-yay! Talespin!

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2017 - 10:09 AM)

Superman.....

@  Sabrblade : (27 March 2017 - 09:27 AM)

"I... am not... a gun."

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:42 PM)

Another great 90's animated film is, of course, The Iron Giant.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:25 PM)

Another thing I liked about The Prince of Egypt was that it explained (without even having to say it outright) why Moses was chosen to deliver the Israelites from Egypt. Someone who had been raised among the slaves would have had too much bitterness and would want to go in throwing the wrath of God on all the Egyptians (or at least the royal family) until they all burned alive. But Moses had been raised as a member of the royal family, so he still thought of them as family. He wanted to reach a peaceful solution if at all possible.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:04 PM)

"I know! I'll turn him into a flea. A harmless little flea, and then I'll put that flea in a box, and then put that box inside of another box, and when it arrives - AHAHAHA! I'LL SMASH IT WITH A HAMMAH! It's brilliant, brilliant, BRILLIANT, I tell you! Genius, I say!"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:03 PM)

Hell, The Emperor's New Groove is easily the funniest animated film ever. Disney managed to do what Dreamworks tried to do, and they did it right.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

None of their "funny" movies are anywhere near as funny as Aladdin or The Emperor's New Groove.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 03:02 PM)

Its a pity Dreamworks devolved into a company that churned out "funny" films filled with pop culture references.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 03:00 PM)

(also at the end of that scene, the camera pans up from the Egyptian skyline to the night sky and the most prominent constellation is Orion. Which the Egyptians associated with Osiris)

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

Yeah I give them full credit for treating the Last Plague with all the solemness it deserves.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:59 PM)

It freed the Israelites, but Moses sure hated seeing what it did to his brother and all the normal non-slave owning people who didn't do anything wrong to the Israelites.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:58 PM)

And it actually portrays God murdering children as a tragic thing, something most other adaptations disturbingly don't do.

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:57 PM)

So that what He told Moses becomes, "I'll lay the smackdown on Egypt, but I should warn you it's only gonna make Rameses dig in his heels more until I have no choice but to break him fully."

@  RichardT1977 : (26 March 2017 - 02:56 PM)

It also describes the "hardening of the Pharoah's heart" as his natural reaction to the plagues rather than an intentional mental override by God.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:54 PM)

Hell, it actually portrays the Plagues as something that's bad and treats most of the Egyptian people as not deserving that shit. "All the innocent who suffer from your stubbornness and pride" and all that.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I'm a Christian, but Prince of Egypt is one of the few religious movies I'll willingly watch, because it's actually good instead of being self-rightous preachy nonsense, batshit crazy propaganda or schmaltzy trash. It also has a great soundtrack with music that I actually put up there with some of Disney's best stuff.

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:45 PM)

Dreamworks's best movies will always be the Dragons movies and The Prince of Egypt.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

Usually I'm willing to give animated films a go, but I have to agree this looked pretty terrible and I had no desire to see it

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 March 2017 - 02:40 PM)

So it's the new "Bee Movie?"

@  Evac : (26 March 2017 - 02:16 PM)

Calling it now: it'll be a meme in ten years.

@  Paladin : (26 March 2017 - 02:07 PM)

every single person who said "yes" to BOSS BABY should be smacked. repeatedly. with adamantium.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 06:02 AM)

Yeah, I don't sync my Twitter since it's irrelevant to a TF forum and sometimes NSFW.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 06:00 AM)

Ah, okay. I... don't know if that's a good idea or not. I post a lot of cats.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:50 AM)

I believe it will auto post anything you put on Twitter/Facebook to the Status section on the main forum page?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:41 AM)

And I totally miss Krispy Kreme. I mean, they're still around here, but nowhere I don't have to go well out of my way for any more. =(

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 March 2017 - 05:40 AM)

"i think you can sync profiles from both to this site." Not clear on what that means.

@  MEDdMI : (26 March 2017 - 05:04 AM)

:D I'm glad I have people and sheep who are willing to eat doughnuts for me.


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#41 Robowang

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 09:34 AM

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 09:48 AM

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That reminds me. More important than will be playing Peter is who will be playing J. Jonah Jameson?


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 09:51 AM

 

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That reminds me. More important than will be playing Peter is who will be playing J. Jonah Jameson?

 

 

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 09:56 AM


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That reminds me. More important than will be playing Peter is who will be playing J. Jonah Jameson?
Yyyyyeah, that's ANOTHER one that Marvel shouldn't be recasting. I think J.K. Simmons even said on Stern recently that he wants to play the role again.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:01 AM

Yyyyyeah, that's ANOTHER one that Marvel shouldn't be recasting. I think J.K. Simmons even said on Stern recently that he wants to play the role again.

 

Not only that he wants to, he even hinted that there'd been some talk about it on some level.

 

So if Sony's not averse to reusing any previous actors, they could do a helluva lot worse than sticking with a proven favorite who's also picked up an Oscar nomination in the meantime.


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:18 AM

I'm really curious how Civil War will work. To be in anyway like the source material you need a certain population of Super powered folk in the Universe. Adding Spidey and Black Panther should help but they really need more, and that's a LOT of stuff to intro in one film AND continue the character story lines from Cap 2...

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:22 AM

I just hope it involves a lot more actual Super Hero(and Villain) costumes than are already in the universe.


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:23 AM

I still want it to be as little like the source material as possible.

 

Just "Cap and Tony disagree on something", now with extra added "and Spidey in the middle". Beyond that, the movie could be about the three of them trying to order lunch.


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:27 AM

MCU Civil War will result in Tony coming up behind Bruce and pushing him down some stairs yelling "PARKOUR!"

 

Spidey, traveling by, misinterprets the comment and spends the rest of the movie paranoid that Stark has discovered his secret.


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:31 AM

We already know from the interviews Feige did around the announcement that the disagreement is going to be over whether the super heroes have to answer to the government/authorities.

But yeah, it's certainly shaping up to be a busy film. If I'm remembering correctly, all the following have been confirmed for it: Cap, Iron Man, Black Panther, the Falcon, Black Widow, the Winter Soldier, Crossbones, Zemo, and now Spidey.
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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:33 AM

Wait... what does this mean for the Special Agent Aunt May movie?


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:38 AM

How would I do Civil War?

I'd suggest in A2 that superheroes were becoming a bigger thing and there are more. Then I'd start Civil War with some version of the Stanford Incident ( I'd prefer not to kill the real New Warriors though cause I LIKE them). Iron Man responds by thinking we need to get all Super Powered folk on sides as a Government sponsored Avengers Army. Cap thinks that's a terrible idea given how Hydra turned SHEILD into. Some actual Villian escallates thing and the disagreement turns into actual combat between two teams. Cap gets Black Panther. Spidey starts on IM side then tries to make peace petween them. Eventually they work together enough to take down the villain ( Baron Zemo?) and that leads to Iron Mans view triumphant for the moment and Cap arrested.

I fully realize that's not as awesome and intricate and surprising a plot as Cap2. That was a really great film. Honestly I don't know how to make Civil War into that good a story. I would have prefered their fake tease of "Serpent Society".

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:41 AM

I'd almost suspect that with how late Civil War likely is in pre-production (got to get it out by May of next year), that Spidey's role will be akin to an extended cameo/minor role (like Phil Coulson in Iron Man 1) simply as a precaution from Sony dicking around with things.

 

Personally, if I was doing this and if Sony is really game to leave the creative side to Marvel, I'd do a "transition" film in 2017.  Start the film with the Peter Parker we all know and love, and pull a "Metal Gear Solid 2" and flip focus to a Miles Morales based Spider-Man film.  To me, that'd be a GREAT way to to cover most basis: the companies get the recognizable Spidey for marketing, Marvel/Sony get to do a new origin film without retreading the same material for a third time, Marvel gets "their own" Spider-Man to integrate with the greater MCU and it would help distance this version from the prior installments both in time and by giving audiences a "new" Spider-Man, something fresh for the films.

 

But that might be a little too optimistic.


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:44 AM

Yeah, I'm going to do it.

 

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:53 AM

What's interesting about Spidey in the MCU is the fact that most of the heroes (and villains) we've seen so far don't maintain secret identities. From the end of the first movie, Stark was very openly Iron Man, and we've watched the impact that has had in the lives of those around him. Everyone knows Steve Rogers is Captain America. Heck, Barton and Romanov barely even have codenames.

 

With Spider-Man and Daredevil we'll be seeing the seeds of 'masked' heroes that spins the MCU version of the Civil War story. It's an interesting dynamic to add to the mix.


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:54 AM

I'm really curious how Civil War will work. To be in anyway like the source material you need a certain population of Super powered folk in the Universe. Adding Spidey and Black Panther should help but they really need more, and that's a LOT of stuff to intro in one film AND continue the character story lines from Cap 2...

ZacWilliam, there are lots of ways they can make it work I'm just curious what form it ends up taking..:

Well, a certain ABC series that's currently on hiatus did open the door not too long ago for more superpowered people to come in to play. ;)


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 10:56 AM

If anyone thinks Civil War will be anything like the comics you are kidding yourself.

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 11:00 AM

I think it has a chance of being as much like the Comics as Winter Soldier was.

 

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Posted 10 February 2015 - 11:01 AM

Um, didn't Amy Pascal resign?  How is she still involved in this?


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Posted 10 February 2015 - 11:01 AM

I'd almost suspect that with how late Civil War likely is in pre-production (got to get it out by May of next year), that Spidey's role will be akin to an extended cameo/minor role (like Phil Coulson in Iron Man 1) simply as a precaution from Sony dicking around with things.

 

Personally, if I was doing this and if Sony is really game to leave the creative side to Marvel, I'd do a "transition" film in 2017.  Start the film with the Peter Parker we all know and love, and pull a "Metal Gear Solid 2" and flip focus to a Miles Morales based Spider-Man film.  To me, that'd be a GREAT way to to cover most basis: the companies get the recognizable Spidey for marketing, Marvel/Sony get to do a new origin film without retreading the same material for a third time, Marvel gets "their own" Spider-Man to integrate with the greater MCU and it would help distance this version from the prior installments both in time and by giving audiences a "new" Spider-Man, something fresh for the films.

 

But that might be a little too optimistic.

 

 

iirc, MArvel has been pushing at getting Spidey for Civil War since they decided to do it. I would theorize that he has role in it, and that if it wasn't him they'd use another siimilar 'young idealistic hero' to fill the basic role.


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