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@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I'll agree with you on that.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

*Figured -_-

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 03:39 PM)

I fugured

@  Steevy Maximus : (25 May 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I'm actually sad Cyberverse won't get another season. 2 and 3 (of what I've seen) have REALLY nailed it in being fun little actions shows, like the Sunbow series.

@  Rycochet : (25 May 2020 - 01:00 PM)

Yes.

@  Maximus Ambus : (25 May 2020 - 12:52 PM)

I'm waiting for Animated season 4. Am I insane?

@  wonko the sane? : (25 May 2020 - 11:22 AM)

I'm waiting for the next season to show up on netflix.

@  Sabrblade : (25 May 2020 - 10:59 AM)

Many of us have already watched the rest of the Cyberverse episodes since the whole third season aired in the UK last September.

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:18 AM)

*9th

@  -LittleAutob... : (25 May 2020 - 10:17 AM)

I just saw the 8th episode... omg

@  Bass X0 : (25 May 2020 - 01:28 AM)

Already seen it online.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 09:42 PM)

Who's excited for tomorrow? The only thing that makes Monday worth it is the Cyberverse episodes .-.

@  wonko the sane? : (24 May 2020 - 12:30 PM)

Welcome. I just came into that trick myself recently, so happy to share.

@  Nevermore : (24 May 2020 - 12:05 PM)

Thanks, wonko the sane? for the tip with the cloning. That helped a lot!

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 12:02 PM)

Heheh.... yes... I don't think a sniper would be very good at making a vaccine... 0.0

@  Nevermore : (24 May 2020 - 11:48 AM)

All right! Cloning my old HHD to an SSD and then swapping out the drive was successful, it would appear. Finally.

@  Bass X0 : (24 May 2020 - 11:30 AM)

Scientist Perceptor is. Sniper Perceptor less so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 10:51 AM)

Perceptor would be more responsible.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 10:48 AM)

Oof x~x

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2020 - 10:45 AM)

He'd cure the virus, but he'd probably commit at least two crimes against nature and weaponize a third in the process.

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 09:39 AM)

'Horrible consequences' would most likely happen with Brainstorm...

@  -LittleAutob... : (24 May 2020 - 08:16 AM)

Totally. And Percy's not even human. XD

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2020 - 06:50 AM)

Can't do much worse than our current government, I say go for it.

@  Sabrblade : (23 May 2020 - 10:13 PM)

Little do we realize that the Perceptor in question is the Mini-Con combiner. :p

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 10:11 PM)

He would!!!

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 10:11 PM)

Horrible consequences? I... Doubt that would happen.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 May 2020 - 09:55 PM)

Even if he would come up with the answer by tomorrow.

@  wonko the sane? : (23 May 2020 - 09:54 PM)

I'd rather not deal with the horrible but unintended consequences of that.

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 09:52 PM)

Lets let Perceptor make a vaccine for COVID-19. Who agrees with me :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 08:43 PM)

I'll take your word for it. =D

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 May 2020 - 08:42 PM)

Although the TV edits of Robocop do contain some hilarity

@  TM2-Megatron : (23 May 2020 - 08:41 PM)

I can't think of any instance where sanitizing a film is a good thing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 06:42 PM)

.... and thats a good thing? :doh

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 May 2020 - 06:39 PM)

I'm watching Predator on Starz! That means it has all the language and gore uncensored!

@  Sabrblade : (23 May 2020 - 04:23 PM)

*grabs popcorn*

@  -LittleAutob... : (23 May 2020 - 12:49 PM)

*watching everyone argue* O^O

@  fourteenwings : (23 May 2020 - 10:22 AM)

By that logic we might as well just get rid of the Shoutbox wholesale! I'd rather have like 3 or 4 things stuck for a week or so than one person dominating the whole thing (no offense Nevermore).

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 May 2020 - 03:30 AM)

I would argue that "full of something one doesn't read" and "devoid of reading material" are functionally identical at the end-user level. :D

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2020 - 07:58 PM)

If it emptied, it would become empty.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 07:53 PM)

It would be the same effect as if the shoutbox simply emptied once or twice a week.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 May 2020 - 07:27 PM)

I don't see how having walls of the same guy on top whenever I go to any page on this site is "refreshing".

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 06:10 PM)

I don't know, I find the occasional flushing of the box to be refreshing.

@  Telly : (22 May 2020 - 04:20 PM)

but its gets annoying seeing a wall of text from him that takes up most of the shoutbox

@  PlutoniumBoss : (22 May 2020 - 03:53 PM)

Eh, that's just Nevermore.

@  fourteenwings : (22 May 2020 - 12:11 AM)

@Nevermore: Good rule of thumb is if you feel like you need not just multiple statements but also multiple shouts to make a point, best just make a thread.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 May 2020 - 05:36 PM)

Dude, do you just, not know when to stop?

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2020 - 03:35 PM)

Instead of "I have only ten hours to get all my stuff from place A to place B", it's more like "I temporarily stored 90% of my stuff in easily accessible place C in my spare time, so now I have ten hours to get the remaining 10% of my stuff over to the new place before permanently saying goodbye to the old place".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 May 2020 - 03:33 PM)

At these point you two are just repeating what you already said.

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2020 - 03:32 PM)

Again using my "moving apartments" analogy. If you can store the stuff you don't immediately need for everyday life somewhere else, it reduces the critical time of permanently switching your primary base of residence over to the new place because there's less stuff to move when the time comes.

@  Nevermore : (21 May 2020 - 03:30 PM)

Well, my main point is that it will speed up the system migration so I have A) less system downtime because there are fewer files to transfer before the new system can be up and running and B) it reduces the risk of something going wrong during the system migration.


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Possible Problem Importing Masterpiece MP-23 Exhaust into the US?

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:05 PM

BigBadToyStore just sent this out:

 

 

Hi – We wanted to update you about a new development in regards to your preorder of the Transformers Masterpiece MP-23 Exhaust figure from Takara.   We were just contacted by a law firm on behalf of Marlboro & Phillip Morris USA.  They informed us that the MP-23 Exhaust figure infringes on their trademark and trade dress for products marketed and sold in the USA.

 

The mark is  generally shaped like this:

 

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|/\|

 

This mark is found on the hood/roof of the MP-23 car in red, and also in smaller green shapes on the left and right fenders.

They are concerned because these marks cannot be used on products that could be intended for children as dictated by the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement  (http://en.wikipedia....ement_Agreement). 

We must comply with the requests they have made in order to avoid legal action with Phillip Morris.   We have removed the MP-23 listing from our website.    Your preorders have been transferred to a generic unpublished listing in case the product is changed or modified before release.   If the product is not changed, we will be forced to cancel all preorders and we will not be able to sell this product. 

We apologize for the trouble on this item.

 

Thanks!

Joel Boblit

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Thanks!

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Hmm...

 

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:09 PM

Looks like you'll have to order him in from China or Japan


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:20 PM

Well, guess I'll have to go to one of my Japanese websites.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:02 PM

Hmm. Well, if I can't get him, then I can't get him. That's life.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:21 PM

Well, it's off to dealers not based in the US, then.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:33 PM

But this product is not intended for children, it's for ADULT COLLECTORS.

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:37 PM

Not at all surprising.  I've got him preordered from HLJ.  I'll see how that goes.



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 07:47 PM

BBTS sent out an email Friday evening explaining some possible issues in getting the MP-23 Exhaust figure into the US. Marlboro & Phillip Morris USA are not only citing that the figure infringes on their trademark and trade dress for products sold in the USA, they also express concerns in having such infringements appear on a toy that could potentially be marketed towards children.

The trade dress in question is of course represented in the red shape on the hood of the car that was based on the original Diaclone Wheeljack Marlboro 598 design, that itself was based on the real life Lancia Marlboro sponsored race car seen below.

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From BBTS:

Hi â We wanted to update you about a new development in regards to your preorder of the Transformers Masterpiece MP-23 Exhaust figure from Takara.   We were just contacted by a law firm on behalf of Marlboro & Phillip Morris USA.  They informed us that the MP-23 Exhaust figure infringes on their trademark and trade dress for products marketed and sold in the USA.

The mark is  generally shaped like this:

|    |

|/|

This mark is found on the hood/roof of the MP-23 car in red, and also in smaller green shapes on the left and right fenders.

They are concerned because these marks cannot be used on products that could be intended for children as dictated by the Tobacco Master Settlement Agreement  (http://en.wikipedia....ement_Agreement).

We must comply with the requests they have made in order to avoid legal action with Phillip Morris.   We have removed the MP-23 listing from our website.    Your preorders have been transferred to a generic unpublished listing in case the product is changed or modified before release.   If the product is not changed, we will be forced to cancel all preorders and we will not be able to sell this product.

We apologize for the trouble on this item.

 

Thanks!

Joel Boblit

President

www.bigbadtoystore.com

We’ll keep you updated as more information becomes available — in the mean time, please be sure to comment in our forums topic.

Thanks to BigBadToyStore for the heads up!


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:02 PM

You mean I have to preorder him for $30 cheaper at HLJ?

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:12 PM

 

they also express concerns in having such infringements appear on a toy that could potentially be marketed towards children.

Which is kinda the reason they're being sold as an exclusive that you have to import...

 

Although I have to admit that the cigarette company using "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" as their objection is strangely fascinating.



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Posted 21 November 2014 - 09:25 PM

HA! I called it (in reverse... sort of). 

 

I noticed Takara changed the chevron so it was rounded instead of the sharp angle in the middle. I guess that wasn't enough. Still, if they really are making the point about the trademark looks like this: |/\| then they're wrong since Takara's doesn't.

 

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Apparently Reprolabels got in trouble for copying the shape even without the name too which is why they don't offer Marlboor stickers or any other variation (according to their Facebook page a while back).


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:05 PM

You mean I have to preorder him for $30 cheaper at HLJ?

THE HORROR!

Unfortunately HLJ's preorders are all sold out.

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:08 PM

They weren't when the news hit.

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:09 PM

They could always open them back up.

 

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:12 PM

Feh.


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Posted 21 November 2014 - 10:32 PM

Well, I stacked an Exhaust from TFsource for back up. We'll see if they pull them too.


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Posted 22 November 2014 - 12:16 AM

This makes sense.

 
they also express concerns in having such infringements appear on a toy that could potentially be marketed towards children.

Which is kinda the reason they're being sold as an exclusive that you have to import...
 
Although I have to admit that the cigarette company using "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" as their objection is strangely fascinating.
It's not that so much as "look at our legal liability if someone we don't control uses our colors and design in a wink and a nod to a thing we sponsored 30 years ago in a toy that while intended for adult collectors is available to children and is based on what was originally a children's toy."

Think about how much money that original settlement must have (rightfully) cost them. They don't want to have anyone accusing them of breaking the deal and opening them up to further litigation on the matter. They play a dangerous game with legal liability and public perception as it is, and they know it.

And considering that it's friggin' cigarette sponsorship that even made this toy a thing in the first place, I'm personally just fine with it ending up as one of those weird Japan-only contributions to TFs just like Tanooki balls, that weird Tai bath statue, and Kiss Players.

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 12:20 AM

Looks like the laws that killed Joe Camel may be used to ban MP-23 Exhaust from import.  But if BBTS has to cancel them to avoid legal trouble, so be it.



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Posted 22 November 2014 - 12:23 AM

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