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@  MEDdMI : (24 May 2019 - 07:40 AM)

They fight you with sparkles.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2019 - 03:40 AM)

Phyrexians are the bishie-est.

@  unluckiness : (24 May 2019 - 12:29 AM)

That's why they always wear long sleeved shirts and long pants

@  fourteenwings : (23 May 2019 - 11:36 PM)

Everybody knows the most bishie thing about any bishie is his exposed sinew.

@  MEDdMI : (23 May 2019 - 10:04 PM)

*looks up the humanoid slivers* ...really? People were calling those bishies?

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 May 2019 - 12:45 PM)

Have they made a sliver planeswalker yet?

@  RichardT1977 : (23 May 2019 - 10:29 AM)

"DECOMPOSE!"

@  Paladin : (23 May 2019 - 06:29 AM)

will they next evolve into Inhumanoids?

@  Ashley : (23 May 2019 - 02:42 AM)

the original slivers were spikey monsters. then the evolved into humanoids. now they're back to spikey bug monsters.

@  MEDdMI : (22 May 2019 - 10:42 PM)

Wait. Slivers were bishies???

@  unluckiness : (22 May 2019 - 10:40 PM)

They haven't necessarily looped yet. It's possible they're stuck in "yaoi anatomy"

@  Ashley : (22 May 2019 - 10:35 PM)

I think Slivers in MTG have crossed the bishonen line and looped back around to monstrous

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2019 - 09:48 PM)

Maxi, provigo, loblaws.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 May 2019 - 09:42 PM)

Which store brand is it?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2019 - 05:52 PM)

I need to buy more "no name" foods. This pizza is freaking awesome.

@  Bass X0 : (20 May 2019 - 11:16 AM)

SEND THE BOOKS!!

@  Cybersnark : (20 May 2019 - 08:52 AM)

So, now that Game of Thrones is over, when can we get back to The Dragon Prince?

@  unluckiness : (20 May 2019 - 12:19 AM)

Like, half of them nowadays are montages of tweet screencaps from the writer's inbox

@  unluckiness : (20 May 2019 - 12:18 AM)

lol you expected integrity from internet news

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 11:33 PM)

I'm mostly confused how news sites went from "Analysing all the amazingness of Game of Thrones" to "Fans sure don't like this season!", like... way to prioritize clicks over a solid editorial opinion

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 11:30 PM)

[and there's a recurring setting of a "derelict industrial site"] is this like the Toei Quarry?

@  MEDdMI : (19 May 2019 - 11:17 PM)

@Foffy and then that giant lasagna just tipped over and killed everyone, to be later known as the infamous Bad Monday event.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 PM)

Ahahaha!!! Go read the reactions for yourself. To say anything more here risks spoiling the finale for subscribing Allsparkers, the quality of this season notwithstanding.

@  Foffy : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 PM)

pretty wild how heathcliff was in the game of thrones finale, i was not expecting that crossover

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 10:48 PM)

were they still super pissed?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 May 2019 - 10:48 PM)

Well, as someone who is not into Game of Thrones, it sure was entertaining to open up social media this evening to unexpectedly see headlines about fan reactions to the finale. Lmao.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:12 PM)

But it's also a SUPER-well known location in my region, so these extensive exterior shots without any post production alterations completely ruin the illusion for me.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:11 PM)

I mean, I get why they did it: It's an existing location that fits the purpose, it's open for the public, and they had to shoot some scenes in my home state anyway to due a subsidizing deal.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Needless to say, it's not in Berlin, and even what's seen onscreen is waaaaay too modern for something that's supposed to exist in 1929 (even moreso as a derelict site in 1929). The structures seen haven't even been built until the 1960s!

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:07 PM)

I'm currently in the process of watching season 2 of Babylon Berlin, and there's a recurring setting of a "derelict industrial site" or whatever it's supposed to be on the show, and I easily recognize it as a place only a few minutes from where I live (it's actually a former ironworks site that's been turned into a public park).

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:52 PM)

Ever since I went to Japan last year, I have friend who dread watching anime with me due to that...

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:51 PM)

Not hugely, but I am the type to notice places once I have been there and say "Hey, I've been there!"

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2019 - 05:50 PM)

Half of new york city (on tape.) is actually montreal.

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 05:50 PM)

I watched Death Wish 5 last night and clearly recognized Toronto streets; didn't pull me out of Bronson's 1-man war on drugs or fashion or whatever it was that pissed him off that time

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 05:49 PM)

it's nice to finally be thought of as exotic by somebody! lol

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 05:48 PM)

In an "I cannot possibly make my brain ignore the location I'm familiar with and pretend it's whatever the story claims it is" way?

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 05:42 PM)

Question for those of you living in exotic locations such as the US or the UK: If you watch a movie or a TV show that features a real-life location as a stand-in for someplace else, and you recognize the real-life location due to having been there in person, does that pull you out of the story?

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:15 PM)

Maybe you should have installed macOS in your house instead.

@  Noideaforaname : (19 May 2019 - 04:40 PM)

Nothing like coming home after a long day to find a bird in the house. And then once you sit down for a well-earned rest after leading the bird back outside, you find it had a friend. A friend who *really* doesn't understand how windows work...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:26 PM)

Bingo. The big polls don't tell people what's actually happening because that doesn't sell.

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 AM)

IIRC there are good polls but data is easily manipulated so they give people what they want to hear

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2019 - 10:58 AM)

The only way to get people interested in politics is to make into reality TV. So they lie to do it.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:38 AM)

Yeah, polling these days is garbage.

@  Sean Whitmore : (18 May 2019 - 11:53 PM)

Well, he was an honest man. He wasn’t gonna lie to a 5-year-old.

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 08:34 PM)

Grandfather once said to me, "I'm going upstairs and hug your grandma."

@  Sabrblade : (18 May 2019 - 07:08 PM)

Mama always said that you can tell a lot 'bout a person from 'is shoes...

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 May 2019 - 03:54 PM)

Life is like a box of chocolates. Stay out of the sun or melt into a pile of gross slop.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 May 2019 - 10:26 AM)

Greasy, disappointing and still managing to be over priced?

@  Lancer : (18 May 2019 - 10:22 AM)

... Yes, it is!

@  Noideaforaname : (18 May 2019 - 09:48 AM)

Life's a fillet of fish!


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#41 DeadPigmon

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 09:23 PM

well obviously widow activates their sniper mode which slides on their sniper sights and inflates ass pockets so that they can sit around somewhere for a long time while they take careful aim.

 

 

More seriously probably blending animation between morphs and there was a different in the ass slider between the times the animations were made. It actually took me several times to even notice the ass thing as I was looking at the eyes wondering why you were asking.

 

Blizzard just wants to expand into the inflation fetish market.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 09:58 PM

Well from all reports, that market is rising.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 10:56 AM

http://www.forbes.co...-project-titan/

 

Oh, so that's why it came out so quickly.

 

Interestingly enough, from the people who got to play the demo at the first Blizzcon, Overwatch is also using some Starcraft Ghost assets too.  Not much, but they are in there.

 

Makes sense, Blizzard tends to never totally throw something out that is done in house.


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Posted 10 November 2014 - 04:28 PM

Does anybody really do?


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 12:06 AM

 

Hmm...

 

 

Metzen relayed the tale during an Overwatch press conference at BlizzCon. He also said that Blizzard is trying to represent a more diverse, less overly sexualized group of characters than they did in the past.

 

Yeah.. they're sort of there with the diversity, race-wise, but all of the female characters so far look like they have the same super-sexy body with slight variations.

The guys on the other hand have cool weird stuff like a dwarf, a robot monk, a gorilla, and an old guy completely obscured by giant power armor.

 

They're not terrible, but they could be better. 

It seems like not all the classes have been revealed, so hopefully there are some surprises left.

Yeah people are already complaining about Widowmaker. But even if the body types aren't super varied I think Tracer, Pharah and Mercy make a decent balance to Widowmaker and Symmetra in terms of sexy vs practical. People have wibbled on Mercy's boob plate but even then you got two sexy, two practical and one inbetween.

 

 

I don't really think the sexiness is really the problem, anyways, I think the group pic on the website really says everything that needs to be said. The five male characters, while all generally being physically fit(Yes, even the Dwarf. Do you see that arm, man?!), they're all still vastly different heights and sizes. The female characters, on the other hand, have a much lower variance, all roughly the same size and height, at least in relation to the males. While there is definitely no mistaking each character's silhouette for one another, how these silhouettes are defined between male and female characters are very different. In male characters, the body itself is exaggerated or stretched to fit, while in female characters, the body has a minimal variance from a base, with accessories and poses doing the heavy lifting. On top of that, male characters have a wider range of sizes, compared to female characters, who are generally all smaller and less exaggerated.

 

This happens a lot with large ensemble casts, from Transformers Universe to League of Legends to Big Hero 6 to Super Smash Bros, and so on.

 

Now. what would I do to fix it? Well, first of all I'd eliminate that damned back arch Widowmaker, Mercy, and Symmetra suffer from. That's just awkward looking. (Maybe grant Symmetra less awkward poses overall because I think I'd love her character design if she could just like, stand, you know?) More on topic, I'd make Pharah bigger and taller, literally just scale her design up. Mercy could stand to have more dress and less leg, the legs just kind of outrun the rest of the design, you know? Or just a whole 'nother design pass. I don't really like the design as is so it's hard to suggest mere tweaks. 

 

Ultimately, tweaks are still tweaks, and still leaves a lot of diversity on the table, Pharah is a damn good start, but she should be a baseline, not the most extreme example. There's no reason why the rules of character design apply differently to men and women, because it doesn't really work that way in life. And for men, media(And this game.) recognizes this, But for women, notsomuch. This game, and the world, needs more Strongarms and Strikas, is what I'm saying.

 

(I'm leaving out Bastion and Winston for the purposes of the discussion. I think there's something to be said how "weird" characters like Winston are almost always male, but I'm not having that argument here. Bastion is actually genderless, so, uh, yeah.)

 

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 12:47 AM

The lack of varied body shapes is a problem that spans all forms of media. When it comes down to it we have a very hard time creating female characters that aren't pretty. Even with being conscious of that I have a hard time doing it when the option is avalible because I just come back to "Why would i want to play as someone with that body type" I think the closest I ever got to an "ugly" character was my ESO orc who was really buff and covered in burns and even then it was kind of one of those "Sexy looking scars" kind of deals where they made her look hotter and more powerful than ugly.

 

The body shapes is an issue, but the sexiness has been getting talked about a lot more from what I've seen. I mean just in that Kotaku link there are 57 annotations to the article and 49 of them are on Widowmakers ass commenting some variation of it being over sexualized or proof they are talking bullshit.



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 12:52 AM

All I'd do is give Tracer some leg armour.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 01:02 AM

Blizzstore leg armor DLC



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 01:09 AM

But seriously that "sexy" back arch is really bugging me, I know why it's there but aaagh it looks so wrong.

 

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 01:11 AM

oh im sure there will be DLC costumes. This is a Moba afterall. Actually would be a good way to settle things really. give the sexy ones more conservative option, give the conservative ones sexy options. Let people play whoever however. Ideally I guess you would want 1 of each option for free.. But really as long as there is a balance it shouldn't matter.

 

But it will, you can never make everyone happy. I was going to make a sandbox analogy but it keeps coming out weird.



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 01:14 AM

But seriously that "sexy" back arch is really bugging me, I know why it's there but aaagh it looks so wrong.

 

It's popular in Korea!


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 01:17 AM

 

But seriously that "sexy" back arch is really bugging me, I know why it's there but aaagh it looks so wrong.

 

It's popular in Korea!

 

 

And so Overwatch will be burdened with it forever.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 01:38 AM

 

 

But seriously that "sexy" back arch is really bugging me, I know why it's there but aaagh it looks so wrong.

 

It's popular in Korea!

 

 

And so Overwatch will be burdened with it forever.

 

 

Well yeah, that's videogames. They sell to the biggest market. If that market is a bunch of Korean teenagers, so be it.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 01:45 AM

 

 

 

But seriously that "sexy" back arch is really bugging me, I know why it's there but aaagh it looks so wrong.

 

It's popular in Korea!

 

 

And so Overwatch will be burdened with it forever.

 

 

Well yeah, that's videogames. They sell to the biggest market. If that market is a bunch of Korean teenagers, so be it.

 

 

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:16 AM

oh im sure there will be DLC costumes. This is a Moba afterall. Actually would be a good way to settle things really. give the sexy ones more conservative option, give the conservative ones sexy options. Let people play whoever however. Ideally I guess you would want 1 of each option for free.. But really as long as there is a balance it shouldn't matter.

 

But it will, you can never make everyone happy. I was going to make a sandbox analogy but it keeps coming out weird.

 

I think Blizz is already doing DLC costume with their Heroes of the storm moba.

 

we will probably get Kerrigan and Nova costumes for Widowmaker

Jaina Proudmoore skin for Tracer

Lich King costume for that big Knight looking guy

Night Elf Archer for the bow dude

Star craft medic outfit for Mercy etc

Lost Vikings costumes for the Dwarf dude

 

its a gold mine!



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 02:25 AM

There are plenty of people who would want to play as girls with more diverse body types. Like, for instance, actual girls.

As Caboo pointed out, the men are still muscley he-men, they just have a variety of shapes.

The three female leads of Steven Universe show you can make female characters who don't look unattractive (by cartoon standards, I'm not calling them fanservicey one bit) while having diverse character designs. Garnet is tall and statuesque by the show's standards, Pearl is very thin, and Amethyst is short and heavyset. But they all still look feminine.

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Posted 11 November 2014 - 04:20 AM

I really don't want to wade into this whole #gamergate mess, but I'm just going to say that industry is as it is. 

 

The vocal complainers are a small demographic within a small demographic.  What they're calling for is a sweeping reform of the entirety of pop culture and media, all to satisfy what sounds like poor self-consciousness issues to me.  TV, magazines, movies, video games, books, artwork, everything is loaded to the brim with handsome and distinguished males and shapely, attractive females.  Even more senior characters tend to be represented by the "gracefully aged", rather than ever portrayed by the withered and decrepit.

 

Quite simply, people don't pay money to see accurate representations of their own lives.  It's escapism and fantasy in all respects.  Harsh as it is to say, unattractive people simply lack charisma.  They have to work their audience to get people to really pay attention to them.  Meanwhile, media is all about grabbing the viewer at first glance, so it's going to put attractive people front and center.

 

Really, the root cause of this whole problem is base human instinct, which you're not going to change with a megaphone and a protest march.  You're just going to desensitize the audience to your plight as they all just wish you'd go away and stop raising a ruckus.

 

And I don't want to come off like a jerk for saying this, but I think a lot of societal problems would be solved if everybody just grew a thicker f'ing skin.  Not everything is designed to offend you personally, so get over it.  You're also not going to get anywhere trying to force everybody else to think the way you do, so get over it, and deal with your issues in your own way.  Annoyed by all the attractive people you're constantly bombarded with?  Don't go on a crusade to ban attractive people.  Improve yourself to be an attractive person.  And I don't mean go out and get plastic surgery and become a supermodel or some shallow crap like that.  I mean, work on your social skills and your sense of humour and how you present yourself, so that you're an actual charming person that people want to be around.  It's not like all the Marilyn Monroes and Carmen Electras and Angelina Jolies and Scarlet Johanssons suddenly make men incapable of appreciating "lesser" women.  Gotta give us credit too.  There's that unattainable fantasy, those shallow base desires, and then there's finding that soul mate that you can honestly enjoy the rest of your life with.  There's always going to be someone prettier, someone taller, someone younger, someone stronger than you, so don't go around trying to tear everyone else down to feel better about yourself.  Just try to be a genuinely good and likeable person and it will pay dividends.  Turning into some screaming, shrill, insatiable rabid social justice warrior is far uglier than whatever you've got going on the surface.

 

Now, this little rant has nothing to do with women's equality, and the right to go unmolested and other such misogyny that's still unfortunately prevalent in the world, and for that cause, I give my whole-hearted support.

 

 

 

So, could we leave this thread to just talk about the game, and leave the politics out of it, pretty please?



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 04:52 AM

Who the hell said anything about Gamergate? Leave that garbage out of here. We're talking about an issue that this game has, and your nonsense moralizing isn't helping anything but make it a bigger argument.


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Posted 11 November 2014 - 05:04 AM

You were talking about the perceived sexualization of female avatars in videogames, which is part of the issue that precipitated gamergate, so I just lumped it all together as part of the whole back-and-forth infighting.

 

And I really don't understand, in this case, why this game, compared to anything else, is being "targetted".  It is not a problem "with this game".  It's status quo for videogames, period.

 

So if this is going to be a discussion, I'd rather we just talk about the issue as it were, rather than equating it with this game in particular and bogging the whole thing down in bickering that doesn't particularly need to be here.



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Posted 11 November 2014 - 05:12 AM

 

There are plenty of people who would want to play as girls with more diverse body types. Like, for instance, actual girls.

 

Judging by the female cosplayers already dressing up as Tracer and Widowmaker already, I think any Blizzard fangirls are probably okay with it.


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