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@  Maximus Ambus : (14 July 2020 - 12:25 AM)

Han shot first. Plain and simple.

@  -LittleAutob... : (13 July 2020 - 06:21 PM)

\(-_-)

@  Bass X0 : (13 July 2020 - 05:26 PM)

"Here's a little---whatever. A little thing. A disclosure. An insight. Revisionism---I've always been fascinated by it. By the idea of a writer going back and altering things. Make no mistake: an edit is a profoundly aggressive act. As Froid once said, we grieve for the murdered word. If you want to get the measure of an author, don't look at what they've left on the page.... look at what they've taken away." -- Rung (MTMTE #28)

@  Verno : (11 July 2020 - 11:20 PM)

2021: :idea :rolleyes :p :D

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:20 PM)

Perfection. :thumbsup

@  Patch : (11 July 2020 - 06:17 PM)

My plans:  :hmm  2020:  :)

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 06:02 PM)

Our plans for 2020 were as amazing as Optimus Prime. But then 2020 came like Hot Rod.

@  -LittleAutob... : (11 July 2020 - 05:50 PM)

Indeed....

@  Bass X0 : (11 July 2020 - 05:40 PM)

"He who dies with the most toys wins."

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:11 PM)

Hey you, get moving, it's not too far, you're looking good so come as you are. Hey you, you never know what you'll see, when it's through that door with the 73.

@  Rycochet : (11 July 2020 - 01:10 PM)

Hey you, get ready, get on your feet. Get into gear and hit the street.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 12:46 PM)

I recall number 73 (old british show) discussing the Transformers movie and had the presenters trying to transform a few figures, one argued his deflated beach ball was a Transformer too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (11 July 2020 - 08:03 AM)

And he's a big ball, but he's not the biggest ball of them all. (That'll be Pulse Unicron.)

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 July 2020 - 07:37 AM)

Trypticon so scared my Primus figure he turned into a ball.

@  ▲ndrusi : (09 July 2020 - 09:56 PM)

King Nine, however, will not return.

@  Bass X0 : (09 July 2020 - 05:05 PM)

Bass_X0 will return after these messages ^^^

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 July 2020 - 03:37 PM)

WHATAMIFIGHTINGFOOOOOOOOARRGH

@  -LittleAutob... : (09 July 2020 - 02:06 PM)

Okay?

@  Otaku : (09 July 2020 - 07:47 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk Ah, but the series itself has pronounced "Bass" both ways. ;)  Oh, 90s English Capcom video game voice acting...

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 July 2020 - 03:14 AM)

Looking at my Titan Returns collection I can see they realised they didn't have to paint the Titan Masters after wave one, lazy bums.

@  Maruten : (08 July 2020 - 09:13 PM)

No, I'm going with "fish".

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 July 2020 - 04:19 PM)

He stated that it's in reference to the Mega Man character, so it follows the series' tradition of music names.

@  Cybersnark : (08 July 2020 - 03:59 PM)

The real question is if it's "bass" as in music or "bass" as in the fish.

@  Otaku : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Well, at least now I know how to pronounce @Bass X0 's screen name. ^^'  Rather, I think I'd just forgotten.  In my defense, it really does look like an emoticon or maybe just "decoration", which is what a lot of folks add to their screen names online.  Usually because someone has the name they really want. XD

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 01:27 PM)

Extremely unimpressed with your idea that someone making a negative observation you don't like means they "got triggered."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (08 July 2020 - 11:16 AM)

You know somebody asked "And this would be in relation to... what exactly?"

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 11:15 AM)

Its because someone got triggered over my random musings instead of just ignoring them. If I read one of your comments that is of no relevance or interest to me, I don't feel the need to say so.

@  -LittleAutob... : (08 July 2020 - 10:56 AM)

All this over someone's username lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (08 July 2020 - 08:34 AM)

Bazro.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (08 July 2020 - 06:34 AM)

It could be Bass 10-0

@  Nevermore : (08 July 2020 - 06:11 AM)

How do you pronounce yourself? "Bass Ex-O" or "Bass Ex-Zero"?

@  Bass X0 : (08 July 2020 - 03:23 AM)

I did almost go with Vile Bass X0, because Vile is cool too.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 July 2020 - 08:34 PM)

Bossk Saw

@  ▲ndrusi : (07 July 2020 - 04:16 PM)

Bass XD

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 03:43 PM)

And its not Bass XO, its Bass X0, as in Bass, X and Zero from the Mega Man series.

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:33 PM)

@Trpodeca :( :(

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 July 2020 - 02:32 PM)

Thats what a gray rock is? Then I'm not one.

@  Trpodeca : (07 July 2020 - 02:12 PM)

Man I just learnt about what seemed like a really cool show, only to realize it was a dream and it dosen't really exist.

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 01:02 PM)

Just something I read that I wanted to share. I heard "gray rock" mentioned in a video, so I looked it up and that was the definition.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 July 2020 - 12:20 PM)

It's a fancy way of saying "Ignore annoying people".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (07 July 2020 - 12:15 PM)

Bass XO has a habit of pasting random drivel here as if doing so were profound.

@  wonko the sane? : (07 July 2020 - 11:30 AM)

And this would be in relation to... what exactly?

@  Bass X0 : (07 July 2020 - 11:25 AM)

"One strategy for dealing with a narcissist or sociopath is to act like a "gray rock," meaning that you become uninteresting and unresponsive. You don't feed their needs for drama or attention. You don't show emotion, say anything interesting, or disclose any personal information"

@  Nevermore : (06 July 2020 - 07:23 PM)

Oh wow. Studio Series Offroad Bumblebee is awesome. His articulation is amazing.

@  -LittleAutob... : (06 July 2020 - 11:18 AM)

Oof-

@  Maximus Ambus : (05 July 2020 - 01:10 AM)

I got Studio Series 39 Cogman yesterday and woke up to find he'd decapitated my titans returns figures.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 July 2020 - 10:19 PM)

If I had a sarcasm powered mouth.. ooohh waaaiiittt...

@  -LittleAutob... : (04 July 2020 - 05:01 PM)

Heh

@  Bass X0 : (04 July 2020 - 02:56 PM)

"If I had sarcasm-powered legs, I'd do a happy dance...!"

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 July 2020 - 02:39 PM)

The real clones were the friends we made along the way.


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#21 Monique

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 06:02 PM

Hmm...

 

 

Metzen relayed the tale during an Overwatch press conference at BlizzCon. He also said that Blizzard is trying to represent a more diverse, less overly sexualized group of characters than they did in the past.

 

Yeah.. they're sort of there with the diversity, race-wise, but all of the female characters so far look like they have the same super-sexy body with slight variations.

The guys on the other hand have cool weird stuff like a dwarf, a robot monk, a gorilla, and an old guy completely obscured by giant power armor.

 

They're not terrible, but they could be better. 

It seems like not all the classes have been revealed, so hopefully there are some surprises left.

Yeah people are already complaining about Widowmaker. But even if the body types aren't super varied I think Tracer, Pharah and Mercy make a decent balance to Widowmaker and Symmetra in terms of sexy vs practical. People have wibbled on Mercy's boob plate but even then you got two sexy, two practical and one inbetween.



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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:34 PM

 

Hmm...

 

 

Metzen relayed the tale during an Overwatch press conference at BlizzCon. He also said that Blizzard is trying to represent a more diverse, less overly sexualized group of characters than they did in the past.

 

Yeah.. they're sort of there with the diversity, race-wise, but all of the female characters so far look like they have the same super-sexy body with slight variations.

The guys on the other hand have cool weird stuff like a dwarf, a robot monk, a gorilla, and an old guy completely obscured by giant power armor.

 

They're not terrible, but they could be better. 

It seems like not all the classes have been revealed, so hopefully there are some surprises left.

Yeah people are already complaining about Widowmaker. But even if the body types aren't super varied I think Tracer, Pharah and Mercy make a decent balance to Widowmaker and Symmetra in terms of sexy vs practical. People have wibbled on Mercy's boob plate but even then you got two sexy, two practical and one inbetween.

 

 

Pretty much the Diablo 3 approach.  That game actually had some pretty decent female designs for the pc's, with only the Demon Hunter being annoyingly fettishy.  The Overwatch ladies, have a pretty nice balance.  Widowmaker, the "sexist" by far, is actually the one I find the most dull.  Tracer got bonus points for the cinematic, she's pretty fun in it.

 

As for the game.  I just am not into pvp style gameplay.  It is a shame, I love the designs and the world, but with no single or co-op campaign, I have a hard time getting really interested.  I do hope it does well for Blizzard, and it does have a good chance to do so.  Team Fortress 2 is very old now, and Overwatch will get attention for this by virtue of being Blizzard, so if the gameplay is there, it will do well.


Edited by Monocle, 08 November 2014 - 09:41 PM.


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 10:47 PM

 

Hmm...

 

 

Metzen relayed the tale during an Overwatch press conference at BlizzCon. He also said that Blizzard is trying to represent a more diverse, less overly sexualized group of characters than they did in the past.

 

Yeah.. they're sort of there with the diversity, race-wise, but all of the female characters so far look like they have the same super-sexy body with slight variations.

The guys on the other hand have cool weird stuff like a dwarf, a robot monk, a gorilla, and an old guy completely obscured by giant power armor.

 

They're not terrible, but they could be better. 

It seems like not all the classes have been revealed, so hopefully there are some surprises left.

Yeah people are already complaining about Widowmaker. But even if the body types aren't super varied I think Tracer, Pharah and Mercy make a decent balance to Widowmaker and Symmetra in terms of sexy vs practical. People have wibbled on Mercy's boob plate but even then you got two sexy, two practical and one inbetween.

 

 

Honestly I think Tracer and Mercy are still pretty sexualized. Tracer's got a nice butt.

 

Speaking of butts, Widowmaker's butt inflates for some reason. I have no idea why.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:43 AM

It strikes me that feminine beauty is such that simply being feminine can be construed as "sexy". That's the astonishing power they wield.

Use it with care.

 

No, but really. I mean, they weren't wiggling any of their wobbly bits. And there is diversity in that group. I didn't have a problem with any of it. Dudes show off their guns or go shirtless all the time. Our heroes often have ideal physiques because the flabby guy isn't gonna make it up that flight of steps to the final boss, you know? If a lady can look the way she wants to (or she's written to want to) and demonstrate superior skill, that's damned empowering and good on her for it.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 11:58 AM

Welcome to the argument that's been going on forever Strafe. Where the line between feminine and sexualized is. What constitutes over sexualized. Why ideal bodies are ok for one but not for all. It's an argument with terminology like "power fantasy" and "male gaze" among others.

It's impossible to make everyone happy because what some people consider a personal power fantasy others will consider a outdated harmful representation that should not exist

I was actually surprised when he said he didn't know if he was doing it to the guys or not as usually people who talk about this stuff claim it's impossible to over sexualized males.

Edited by Murry, 09 November 2014 - 12:11 PM.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 02:05 PM

just make an awesome  fat girl protagonist. that kicks ass and takes names. Something like a female kung fu panda . 


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 02:39 PM

It's impossible to make everyone happy because what some people consider a personal power fantasy others will consider a outdated harmful representation that should not exist

 

When you're right, you're right.

The sexuality isn't getting top billing, so I don't see any harm being done, here. As I said, the group has diversity. If the game box depicts something that looks like it came straight out of a Vampirella or Dejah Thoris comic, then I'll concede intent.

People have their reasons for wanting to show off as much as the people who are humble about their appearance. It's not breaking the suspension of disbelief to see fictitious characters with such motivations. You said it yourself - where is the line? I'm not convinced, by what we've seen, that the intent by Blizzard's developers is to cross it. I understand why these discussions are happening more often than ever. If they herald progress and understanding, then I'll be glad that they're happening.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 02:57 PM

Even marketing doesn't convey intent however. Depending on who is doing the marketing anyways. Someone whose opinions I'm not a fan if argued that femshep in mass effect was evidence if a trope because the marketing focused in maleshep. But Rhe publisher decided that, not the developer who made the two options completely equal.

Then you got cases like Bayonetta when the sexualization is over the top even and clearly intended to be that way but the character herself has been said by her designer to be her own personal power fantasy. And I can see how.

I would argue even there isn't a real problem having pure T&A titles or characters as long as they aren't the dominant representation in the industry. Nor is there really any harm in enjoying that kind of stuff in and of itself.

Edited by Murry, 09 November 2014 - 03:12 PM.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 03:00 PM

It strikes me that feminine beauty is such that simply being feminine can be construed as "sexy". That's the astonishing power they wield.
Use it with care.
 
No, but really. I mean, they weren't wiggling any of their wobbly bits. And there is diversity in that group. I didn't have a problem with any of it. Dudes show off their guns or go shirtless all the time. Our heroes often have ideal physiques because the flabby guy isn't gonna make it up that flight of steps to the final boss, you know? If a lady can look the way she wants to (or she's written to want to) and demonstrate superior skill, that's damned empowering and good on her for it.


I just wonder why all the girls have to be conventionally attractive when the male cast includes a monkey and a hunched over diminutive old man.

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:10 PM

Hanzo?

 

Even marketing doesn't convey intent however. Depending on who is doing the marketing anyways. Someone whose opinions I'm not a fan if argued that femshep in mass effect was evidence if a trope because the marketing focused in maleshep.

 

But but but female Commander Shepard shared a trailer and a case cover with the male Commander Shepard! So. The Bayonetta example you used is a good one, I think. We have a character who is clearly strong, confident, and capable. Maybe that's not enough to undo the perceived harm being wrought? I have no idea, I've never played Bayonetta. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about this kind of stuff.

We're way off the rails, here. Intent can be interpreted and twisted any way a person wants it, but there's probably a good reason why I've never seen Blizzard accused of selling sexuality or being insensitive* before.

 

*Unless you play an Alliance toon!

*Brewfest is also kinda iffy.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:26 PM

I'm not talking about the fact that one or some of the men are conventionally attractive. I'm talking about hoaw none of the women are allowed to be as diverse body type wise.

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:34 PM

I'm not talking about the fact that one or some of the men are conventionally attractive. I'm talking about hoaw none of the women are allowed to be as diverse body type wise.

 

Cuz nobody wants to play as a fat chick or a dumpy chick. Harsh but true.

 

The reason the dorf and the monkey are in the game is for the comedic superhero/videogame cliche factor. You know, so players can giggle at banana jokes and bad accents.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:45 PM

This is so the First Person MOBA we've been waiting for.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:46 PM

What's with that, anyway. I've noticed a lot of terrible acting in Blizzard games, of late.

 

I'm not talking about the fact that one or some of the men are conventionally attractive. I'm talking about hoaw none of the women are allowed to be as diverse body type wise.

 

One fat guy. One. An ape is not a guy.

These discussions are tiring. If you're going to be argumentative for the pure "joy" of arguing, then you should learn to be fair as well.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:57 PM

... Why are you assuming I'm doing this for the joy of it?

I think its stilted and an unfortunately tired element of character design in what is otherwise an amazingly creative game. I'm not starting a fight because I love getting people riled up, I'm saying my peace in a discussion thread OTHER PEOPLE started and because it's something that I feel strongly about.

And Winston is clearly identified as a he. Hell, the robot is referred to as a dude.

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 06:19 PM

Because it's a frivolous thing to argue when there is, again, one fat Dwarf. The rest are dudes who are clearly fit.

If it sounds simple, that's because it is. Animals are animals and robots are robots. They're allowed more freedom of diverse design than humans are, but apes tend to be pretty big. Especially fictitious ones that talk. Obviously!

 

How about that Overwatch, eh? Eh?!

It doesn't help, I know, but the Dwarf and robots are the ones I'd be most interested in playing. I feel that way about, like, every game ever. Tracer has a lot of charm, so she's high on the list, as well.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 06:23 PM

http://a.pomf.se/katxxs.webm

 

so can someone explain what's going on here to me?


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 08:14 PM

well obviously widow activates their sniper mode which slides on their sniper sights and inflates ass pockets so that they can sit around somewhere for a long time while they take careful aim.

 

 

More seriously probably blending animation between morphs and there was a different in the ass slider between the times the animations were made. It actually took me several times to even notice the ass thing as I was looking at the eyes wondering why you were asking.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 08:51 PM

http://www.forbes.co...-project-titan/

 

Oh, so that's why it came out so quickly.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 08:52 PM

Put me in the "Blizzard needs to just make kick ass CGI movies and/or TV series" group. The animation team is top notch in all that they do, simply amazing!





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