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@  RichardT1977 : (23 May 2019 - 10:29 AM)

"DECOMPOSE!"

@  Paladin : (23 May 2019 - 06:29 AM)

will they next evolve into Inhumanoids?

@  Ashley : (23 May 2019 - 02:42 AM)

the original slivers were spikey monsters. then the evolved into humanoids. now they're back to spikey bug monsters.

@  MEDdMI : (22 May 2019 - 10:42 PM)

Wait. Slivers were bishies???

@  unluckiness : (22 May 2019 - 10:40 PM)

They haven't necessarily looped yet. It's possible they're stuck in "yaoi anatomy"

@  Ashley : (22 May 2019 - 10:35 PM)

I think Slivers in MTG have crossed the bishonen line and looped back around to monstrous

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2019 - 09:48 PM)

Maxi, provigo, loblaws.

@  RichardT1977 : (22 May 2019 - 09:42 PM)

Which store brand is it?

@  wonko the sane? : (22 May 2019 - 05:52 PM)

I need to buy more "no name" foods. This pizza is freaking awesome.

@  Bass X0 : (20 May 2019 - 11:16 AM)

SEND THE BOOKS!!

@  Cybersnark : (20 May 2019 - 08:52 AM)

So, now that Game of Thrones is over, when can we get back to The Dragon Prince?

@  unluckiness : (20 May 2019 - 12:19 AM)

Like, half of them nowadays are montages of tweet screencaps from the writer's inbox

@  unluckiness : (20 May 2019 - 12:18 AM)

lol you expected integrity from internet news

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 11:33 PM)

I'm mostly confused how news sites went from "Analysing all the amazingness of Game of Thrones" to "Fans sure don't like this season!", like... way to prioritize clicks over a solid editorial opinion

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 11:30 PM)

[and there's a recurring setting of a "derelict industrial site"] is this like the Toei Quarry?

@  MEDdMI : (19 May 2019 - 11:17 PM)

@Foffy and then that giant lasagna just tipped over and killed everyone, to be later known as the infamous Bad Monday event.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 PM)

Ahahaha!!! Go read the reactions for yourself. To say anything more here risks spoiling the finale for subscribing Allsparkers, the quality of this season notwithstanding.

@  Foffy : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 PM)

pretty wild how heathcliff was in the game of thrones finale, i was not expecting that crossover

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 10:48 PM)

were they still super pissed?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 May 2019 - 10:48 PM)

Well, as someone who is not into Game of Thrones, it sure was entertaining to open up social media this evening to unexpectedly see headlines about fan reactions to the finale. Lmao.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:12 PM)

But it's also a SUPER-well known location in my region, so these extensive exterior shots without any post production alterations completely ruin the illusion for me.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:11 PM)

I mean, I get why they did it: It's an existing location that fits the purpose, it's open for the public, and they had to shoot some scenes in my home state anyway to due a subsidizing deal.

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:09 PM)

Needless to say, it's not in Berlin, and even what's seen onscreen is waaaaay too modern for something that's supposed to exist in 1929 (even moreso as a derelict site in 1929). The structures seen haven't even been built until the 1960s!

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 06:07 PM)

I'm currently in the process of watching season 2 of Babylon Berlin, and there's a recurring setting of a "derelict industrial site" or whatever it's supposed to be on the show, and I easily recognize it as a place only a few minutes from where I live (it's actually a former ironworks site that's been turned into a public park).

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:52 PM)

Ever since I went to Japan last year, I have friend who dread watching anime with me due to that...

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:51 PM)

Not hugely, but I am the type to notice places once I have been there and say "Hey, I've been there!"

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2019 - 05:50 PM)

Half of new york city (on tape.) is actually montreal.

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 05:50 PM)

I watched Death Wish 5 last night and clearly recognized Toronto streets; didn't pull me out of Bronson's 1-man war on drugs or fashion or whatever it was that pissed him off that time

@  TM2-Megatron : (19 May 2019 - 05:49 PM)

it's nice to finally be thought of as exotic by somebody! lol

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 05:48 PM)

In an "I cannot possibly make my brain ignore the location I'm familiar with and pretend it's whatever the story claims it is" way?

@  Nevermore : (19 May 2019 - 05:42 PM)

Question for those of you living in exotic locations such as the US or the UK: If you watch a movie or a TV show that features a real-life location as a stand-in for someplace else, and you recognize the real-life location due to having been there in person, does that pull you out of the story?

@  Xellos : (19 May 2019 - 05:15 PM)

Maybe you should have installed macOS in your house instead.

@  Noideaforaname : (19 May 2019 - 04:40 PM)

Nothing like coming home after a long day to find a bird in the house. And then once you sit down for a well-earned rest after leading the bird back outside, you find it had a friend. A friend who *really* doesn't understand how windows work...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:26 PM)

Bingo. The big polls don't tell people what's actually happening because that doesn't sell.

@  fourteenwings : (19 May 2019 - 10:59 AM)

IIRC there are good polls but data is easily manipulated so they give people what they want to hear

@  wonko the sane? : (19 May 2019 - 10:58 AM)

The only way to get people interested in politics is to make into reality TV. So they lie to do it.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (19 May 2019 - 01:38 AM)

Yeah, polling these days is garbage.

@  Sean Whitmore : (18 May 2019 - 11:53 PM)

Well, he was an honest man. He wasn’t gonna lie to a 5-year-old.

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 08:34 PM)

Grandfather once said to me, "I'm going upstairs and hug your grandma."

@  Sabrblade : (18 May 2019 - 07:08 PM)

Mama always said that you can tell a lot 'bout a person from 'is shoes...

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 May 2019 - 03:54 PM)

Life is like a box of chocolates. Stay out of the sun or melt into a pile of gross slop.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 May 2019 - 10:26 AM)

Greasy, disappointing and still managing to be over priced?

@  Lancer : (18 May 2019 - 10:22 AM)

... Yes, it is!

@  Noideaforaname : (18 May 2019 - 09:48 AM)

Life's a fillet of fish!

@  unluckiness : (18 May 2019 - 08:53 AM)

ow the edge

@  Paladin : (18 May 2019 - 07:03 AM)

a reminder that life is an unrepentant hellscape where everyone & everything you know will eventually betray you.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:45 AM)

You know, this election is what has finally broken me of any confidence at any point of pre-polling data. I mean, it's always been sketchy, but this is just... aaaargh!

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 06:08 AM)

I was going to make an Auspol election thread in P&R, but the outcome so far has made me feel physically ill.

@  Gamma V : (18 May 2019 - 03:28 AM)

Haven't been here in a long time.

@  Pennpenn : (18 May 2019 - 03:16 AM)

I have heard that, it's rather disappointing. Ah, maybe they'll just leech each others stores of "awful racist vote" and not go anywhere.


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#21 Monique

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 06:02 PM

Hmm...

 

 

Metzen relayed the tale during an Overwatch press conference at BlizzCon. He also said that Blizzard is trying to represent a more diverse, less overly sexualized group of characters than they did in the past.

 

Yeah.. they're sort of there with the diversity, race-wise, but all of the female characters so far look like they have the same super-sexy body with slight variations.

The guys on the other hand have cool weird stuff like a dwarf, a robot monk, a gorilla, and an old guy completely obscured by giant power armor.

 

They're not terrible, but they could be better. 

It seems like not all the classes have been revealed, so hopefully there are some surprises left.

Yeah people are already complaining about Widowmaker. But even if the body types aren't super varied I think Tracer, Pharah and Mercy make a decent balance to Widowmaker and Symmetra in terms of sexy vs practical. People have wibbled on Mercy's boob plate but even then you got two sexy, two practical and one inbetween.



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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:34 PM

 

Hmm...

 

 

Metzen relayed the tale during an Overwatch press conference at BlizzCon. He also said that Blizzard is trying to represent a more diverse, less overly sexualized group of characters than they did in the past.

 

Yeah.. they're sort of there with the diversity, race-wise, but all of the female characters so far look like they have the same super-sexy body with slight variations.

The guys on the other hand have cool weird stuff like a dwarf, a robot monk, a gorilla, and an old guy completely obscured by giant power armor.

 

They're not terrible, but they could be better. 

It seems like not all the classes have been revealed, so hopefully there are some surprises left.

Yeah people are already complaining about Widowmaker. But even if the body types aren't super varied I think Tracer, Pharah and Mercy make a decent balance to Widowmaker and Symmetra in terms of sexy vs practical. People have wibbled on Mercy's boob plate but even then you got two sexy, two practical and one inbetween.

 

 

Pretty much the Diablo 3 approach.  That game actually had some pretty decent female designs for the pc's, with only the Demon Hunter being annoyingly fettishy.  The Overwatch ladies, have a pretty nice balance.  Widowmaker, the "sexist" by far, is actually the one I find the most dull.  Tracer got bonus points for the cinematic, she's pretty fun in it.

 

As for the game.  I just am not into pvp style gameplay.  It is a shame, I love the designs and the world, but with no single or co-op campaign, I have a hard time getting really interested.  I do hope it does well for Blizzard, and it does have a good chance to do so.  Team Fortress 2 is very old now, and Overwatch will get attention for this by virtue of being Blizzard, so if the gameplay is there, it will do well.


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 10:47 PM

 

Hmm...

 

 

Metzen relayed the tale during an Overwatch press conference at BlizzCon. He also said that Blizzard is trying to represent a more diverse, less overly sexualized group of characters than they did in the past.

 

Yeah.. they're sort of there with the diversity, race-wise, but all of the female characters so far look like they have the same super-sexy body with slight variations.

The guys on the other hand have cool weird stuff like a dwarf, a robot monk, a gorilla, and an old guy completely obscured by giant power armor.

 

They're not terrible, but they could be better. 

It seems like not all the classes have been revealed, so hopefully there are some surprises left.

Yeah people are already complaining about Widowmaker. But even if the body types aren't super varied I think Tracer, Pharah and Mercy make a decent balance to Widowmaker and Symmetra in terms of sexy vs practical. People have wibbled on Mercy's boob plate but even then you got two sexy, two practical and one inbetween.

 

 

Honestly I think Tracer and Mercy are still pretty sexualized. Tracer's got a nice butt.

 

Speaking of butts, Widowmaker's butt inflates for some reason. I have no idea why.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:43 AM

It strikes me that feminine beauty is such that simply being feminine can be construed as "sexy". That's the astonishing power they wield.

Use it with care.

 

No, but really. I mean, they weren't wiggling any of their wobbly bits. And there is diversity in that group. I didn't have a problem with any of it. Dudes show off their guns or go shirtless all the time. Our heroes often have ideal physiques because the flabby guy isn't gonna make it up that flight of steps to the final boss, you know? If a lady can look the way she wants to (or she's written to want to) and demonstrate superior skill, that's damned empowering and good on her for it.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 11:58 AM

Welcome to the argument that's been going on forever Strafe. Where the line between feminine and sexualized is. What constitutes over sexualized. Why ideal bodies are ok for one but not for all. It's an argument with terminology like "power fantasy" and "male gaze" among others.

It's impossible to make everyone happy because what some people consider a personal power fantasy others will consider a outdated harmful representation that should not exist

I was actually surprised when he said he didn't know if he was doing it to the guys or not as usually people who talk about this stuff claim it's impossible to over sexualized males.

Edited by Murry, 09 November 2014 - 12:11 PM.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 02:05 PM

just make an awesome  fat girl protagonist. that kicks ass and takes names. Something like a female kung fu panda . 


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 02:39 PM

It's impossible to make everyone happy because what some people consider a personal power fantasy others will consider a outdated harmful representation that should not exist

 

When you're right, you're right.

The sexuality isn't getting top billing, so I don't see any harm being done, here. As I said, the group has diversity. If the game box depicts something that looks like it came straight out of a Vampirella or Dejah Thoris comic, then I'll concede intent.

People have their reasons for wanting to show off as much as the people who are humble about their appearance. It's not breaking the suspension of disbelief to see fictitious characters with such motivations. You said it yourself - where is the line? I'm not convinced, by what we've seen, that the intent by Blizzard's developers is to cross it. I understand why these discussions are happening more often than ever. If they herald progress and understanding, then I'll be glad that they're happening.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 02:57 PM

Even marketing doesn't convey intent however. Depending on who is doing the marketing anyways. Someone whose opinions I'm not a fan if argued that femshep in mass effect was evidence if a trope because the marketing focused in maleshep. But Rhe publisher decided that, not the developer who made the two options completely equal.

Then you got cases like Bayonetta when the sexualization is over the top even and clearly intended to be that way but the character herself has been said by her designer to be her own personal power fantasy. And I can see how.

I would argue even there isn't a real problem having pure T&A titles or characters as long as they aren't the dominant representation in the industry. Nor is there really any harm in enjoying that kind of stuff in and of itself.

Edited by Murry, 09 November 2014 - 03:12 PM.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 03:00 PM

It strikes me that feminine beauty is such that simply being feminine can be construed as "sexy". That's the astonishing power they wield.
Use it with care.
 
No, but really. I mean, they weren't wiggling any of their wobbly bits. And there is diversity in that group. I didn't have a problem with any of it. Dudes show off their guns or go shirtless all the time. Our heroes often have ideal physiques because the flabby guy isn't gonna make it up that flight of steps to the final boss, you know? If a lady can look the way she wants to (or she's written to want to) and demonstrate superior skill, that's damned empowering and good on her for it.


I just wonder why all the girls have to be conventionally attractive when the male cast includes a monkey and a hunched over diminutive old man.

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:10 PM

Hanzo?

 

Even marketing doesn't convey intent however. Depending on who is doing the marketing anyways. Someone whose opinions I'm not a fan if argued that femshep in mass effect was evidence if a trope because the marketing focused in maleshep.

 

But but but female Commander Shepard shared a trailer and a case cover with the male Commander Shepard! So. The Bayonetta example you used is a good one, I think. We have a character who is clearly strong, confident, and capable. Maybe that's not enough to undo the perceived harm being wrought? I have no idea, I've never played Bayonetta. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about this kind of stuff.

We're way off the rails, here. Intent can be interpreted and twisted any way a person wants it, but there's probably a good reason why I've never seen Blizzard accused of selling sexuality or being insensitive* before.

 

*Unless you play an Alliance toon!

*Brewfest is also kinda iffy.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:26 PM

I'm not talking about the fact that one or some of the men are conventionally attractive. I'm talking about hoaw none of the women are allowed to be as diverse body type wise.

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:34 PM

I'm not talking about the fact that one or some of the men are conventionally attractive. I'm talking about hoaw none of the women are allowed to be as diverse body type wise.

 

Cuz nobody wants to play as a fat chick or a dumpy chick. Harsh but true.

 

The reason the dorf and the monkey are in the game is for the comedic superhero/videogame cliche factor. You know, so players can giggle at banana jokes and bad accents.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:45 PM

This is so the First Person MOBA we've been waiting for.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:46 PM

What's with that, anyway. I've noticed a lot of terrible acting in Blizzard games, of late.

 

I'm not talking about the fact that one or some of the men are conventionally attractive. I'm talking about hoaw none of the women are allowed to be as diverse body type wise.

 

One fat guy. One. An ape is not a guy.

These discussions are tiring. If you're going to be argumentative for the pure "joy" of arguing, then you should learn to be fair as well.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:57 PM

... Why are you assuming I'm doing this for the joy of it?

I think its stilted and an unfortunately tired element of character design in what is otherwise an amazingly creative game. I'm not starting a fight because I love getting people riled up, I'm saying my peace in a discussion thread OTHER PEOPLE started and because it's something that I feel strongly about.

And Winston is clearly identified as a he. Hell, the robot is referred to as a dude.

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 06:19 PM

Because it's a frivolous thing to argue when there is, again, one fat Dwarf. The rest are dudes who are clearly fit.

If it sounds simple, that's because it is. Animals are animals and robots are robots. They're allowed more freedom of diverse design than humans are, but apes tend to be pretty big. Especially fictitious ones that talk. Obviously!

 

How about that Overwatch, eh? Eh?!

It doesn't help, I know, but the Dwarf and robots are the ones I'd be most interested in playing. I feel that way about, like, every game ever. Tracer has a lot of charm, so she's high on the list, as well.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 06:23 PM

http://a.pomf.se/katxxs.webm

 

so can someone explain what's going on here to me?


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 08:14 PM

well obviously widow activates their sniper mode which slides on their sniper sights and inflates ass pockets so that they can sit around somewhere for a long time while they take careful aim.

 

 

More seriously probably blending animation between morphs and there was a different in the ass slider between the times the animations were made. It actually took me several times to even notice the ass thing as I was looking at the eyes wondering why you were asking.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 08:51 PM

http://www.forbes.co...-project-titan/

 

Oh, so that's why it came out so quickly.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 08:52 PM

Put me in the "Blizzard needs to just make kick ass CGI movies and/or TV series" group. The animation team is top notch in all that they do, simply amazing!





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