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@  Benbot : (11 December 2019 - 09:34 PM)

What's your favorite cheese? I'm not sure, but it's hard to beat muenster.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 05:10 PM)

Man I wish IDW could do a season 2.5 with a few writers like Michael Charles Hill or Donald F Glut or Paul Davids involved.

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 December 2019 - 04:33 PM)

They were looking for Skids, but the animators forgot he existed again.

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 02:58 PM)

He regrouped with Omega Supreme, the Dinobots, Skyfire and the Protectobots.

@  Benbot : (11 December 2019 - 08:20 AM)

Did he get infected with the rest of the Autobots or did he smartly remain off-planet?

@  TheMightyMol... : (11 December 2019 - 05:38 AM)

He really just went to the beach for a couple of days, then called it in. Who's gonna follow up on it?

@  Maximus Ambus : (11 December 2019 - 05:05 AM)

Anyone really believe Cosmos searched far enough for more ingredient for Corrostop?

@  Nevermore : (11 December 2019 - 03:48 AM)

Oh, we are pretty good at "forgetting" about that. Insisting on sending people home on their overtime, THEN suddenly rushing to do the "backlog" stuff when it's really overdue.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 December 2019 - 05:43 PM)

I've yet to find an organization which didn't have a backlog of "stuff" that needs to be done, but isn't important enough to put on the schedule proper.

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 December 2019 - 05:01 PM)

I'm sure most good/bad (depending on your POV) bosses would be able to find something for the worker to do, in most cases, even if it's spending 8 hours pretending to push a broom around

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 December 2019 - 04:39 PM)

Still better than American jobs. x.x;

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 December 2019 - 11:10 AM)

I'm pretty sure you've already mentioned this before. Especially that last one.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:05 AM)

That can be fun if you're strong-willed enough. "Hey, you want to go home? Overtime reduction, there's nothing to do..." - "Nah, not today. I want to work."

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:04 AM)

This applies to the field of work as well. Meaning, your boss orders you to show up for a full shift, you show up on time and are absolutely willing to work, and then your boss realizes he has no work for you, your boss has to pay you for a full shift even if you don't work at all.

@  Nevermore : (10 December 2019 - 11:03 AM)

Fun fact: German law has a concept named "default in acceptance", which postulates that if there is a "service for payment" contract, the party that should provide the service correctly offers their due service, and the party that should pay fails to accept the service within due time, the second party still has to pay the first party even if there was no service delivered.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:54 PM)

If it's seasonal affective disorder, check with your doc about vitamin D supplements.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:46 PM)

That's what I was thinking too, It's the christmas rush and if that's not stressful enough the cold weather can also impact mental health.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 12:41 PM)

Might be a stupid question given the comment, BUT: have you done anything outside the ordinary lately? Might just be a stress reaction.

@  Maximus Ambus : (08 December 2019 - 12:29 PM)

I've experienced sleep paralysis with ghostly images and similar things in the past and can snap out of it through moving my fingers. I've definitely hallucinated before and members of both sides of the family have had similar experience, some suffered forms of mental instability in two cases schizophrenia.

@  wonko the sane? : (08 December 2019 - 10:47 AM)

So... either a hallucination or night terrors. Are you prone to this kind of thing?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:55 PM)

It kept repeating until I sat up.

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 11:54 PM)

I've been up since three and when sheepish I was hallucinating something knocking twice against my bedroom door.

@  TheMightyMol... : (07 December 2019 - 06:58 PM)

Then repaint Apeface and Snapdragon as Transmetal Optimus Primal and Megatron. It's crazy enough to work.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (07 December 2019 - 05:32 PM)

Moral imperative.

@  Nevermore : (07 December 2019 - 05:13 PM)

Wishful thinking, rumor or leak?

@  Maximus Ambus : (07 December 2019 - 04:48 PM)

Snapdragon for Earthrise.

@  TM2-Megatron : (04 December 2019 - 10:22 PM)

Still not the weirdest thing a Nic Cage character has done in a film

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 04:00 PM)

Couldn't be worse than him pissing fire as Ghost Rider.

@  Rycochet : (04 December 2019 - 03:38 PM)

The Tim Burton Superman Movie is the DC movie we deserve. It would have Nic Cage in a technosuit punching polarbears.

@  Paladin : (04 December 2019 - 02:59 PM)

Wonder Woman was great. Shazam was amazing. Aquaman... exists.

@  RichardT1977 : (04 December 2019 - 01:54 PM)

TBF, Aquaman and Shazam! were pretty good.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 December 2019 - 01:00 PM)

Not a difficult feat.

@  Benbot : (04 December 2019 - 11:50 AM)

You just put more effort into telling a compelling story than all of WB's execs.

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:41 AM)

Cue the flashback to Jonathan, reassuring a terrified child: "What you are is never as important as who you are." Cue Superman's response to Brainiac: "I already know who I am."*John Williams fanfare plays*

@  Cybersnark : (04 December 2019 - 11:38 AM)

I don't think we even really need to see Krypton. I'd start with Clark growing up in Kansas, thinking he's normal, and follow him through the development of his powers. There've been enough alternate takes on Krypton that it could actually work as a mystery; is this the pre-Crisis utopia, the sterile science world, or the relic of a fallen empire? Brainiac was there, and he tempts Clark with the knowledge of what he really is.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:12 AM)

First, a Krypton film, ending with baby Kal-El being found on Earth.  Then Supe's early career film, establishing his values... and if Jonothan Kent needs to die, it happens because of something like a heart attack while Clark is savnig folks on the other side of the world.  After we know Clark minimizes property damage and never kills, have Zod & Company show up and force him to make tough choices.

@  Otaku : (04 December 2019 - 11:07 AM)

Man of Steel seems like someone came up with a Superman trilogy and then the execs said "We've got to catch up to Marvel, make it one film!".  I don't mean that based on the film's actual pacing, but because various story beats make more sense to me if they weren't all squished together.

@  Cybersnark : (03 December 2019 - 07:44 PM)

I've been wanting to write a Superman movie trilogy for years; "Man of Steel" (featuring a Terminator-like Brainiac) was going to be first, with "Last Son of Krypton" (featuring the Eradicator) as the sequel and "Man of Tomorrow" (in which Luthor makes his face-heel turn) as the conclusion. Thanks to Snyder I have to re-arrange my titles.

@  Nevermore : (03 December 2019 - 06:15 PM)

I still wish "Man of Steel" had instead been an adaptation of both the John Byrne miniseries of the same name and the Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale miniseries "Superman For All Seasons".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (03 December 2019 - 04:42 PM)

A take I just read: Man of Steel is shot with such a lack of lighting that it is easier to discern what is going on in a porn film.

@  Maximus Ambus : (03 December 2019 - 12:20 PM)

Making Soylant is harder then it looks, it's not like the movies, you have to keep whacking and hacking at the ingredient, it'll scream and fight, maybe bite but eventually it will go down.

@  Paladin : (03 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

varies from person to person.

@  Benbot : (03 December 2019 - 11:34 AM)

It's an acquired taste

@  CORVUS : (03 December 2019 - 11:17 AM)

Soylent? Its pretty awful.

@  unluckiness : (03 December 2019 - 02:49 AM)

Depends on your denomination of Christianity

@  Patch : (02 December 2019 - 05:52 PM)

@Benbot Do they have a soy-free version? Like maybe just "Lent?"

@  Maximus Ambus : (02 December 2019 - 02:03 PM)

Just occurred to me 'Autobot' Megatron happened in Target 2006.

@  Benbot : (02 December 2019 - 11:48 AM)

have you tried Soylent? It's pretty good! https://soylent.com/

@  Paladin : (02 December 2019 - 10:01 AM)

i prefer free-range human usually. pain in the ass to hunt though...

@  TheMightyMol... : (02 December 2019 - 09:42 AM)

If your human is all bones, you may have purchased a skeleton by accident. Contact your grocer to inquire about exhange policies.


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#21 Monique

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Posted 08 November 2014 - 06:02 PM

Hmm...

 

 

Metzen relayed the tale during an Overwatch press conference at BlizzCon. He also said that Blizzard is trying to represent a more diverse, less overly sexualized group of characters than they did in the past.

 

Yeah.. they're sort of there with the diversity, race-wise, but all of the female characters so far look like they have the same super-sexy body with slight variations.

The guys on the other hand have cool weird stuff like a dwarf, a robot monk, a gorilla, and an old guy completely obscured by giant power armor.

 

They're not terrible, but they could be better. 

It seems like not all the classes have been revealed, so hopefully there are some surprises left.

Yeah people are already complaining about Widowmaker. But even if the body types aren't super varied I think Tracer, Pharah and Mercy make a decent balance to Widowmaker and Symmetra in terms of sexy vs practical. People have wibbled on Mercy's boob plate but even then you got two sexy, two practical and one inbetween.



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Posted 08 November 2014 - 09:34 PM

 

Hmm...

 

 

Metzen relayed the tale during an Overwatch press conference at BlizzCon. He also said that Blizzard is trying to represent a more diverse, less overly sexualized group of characters than they did in the past.

 

Yeah.. they're sort of there with the diversity, race-wise, but all of the female characters so far look like they have the same super-sexy body with slight variations.

The guys on the other hand have cool weird stuff like a dwarf, a robot monk, a gorilla, and an old guy completely obscured by giant power armor.

 

They're not terrible, but they could be better. 

It seems like not all the classes have been revealed, so hopefully there are some surprises left.

Yeah people are already complaining about Widowmaker. But even if the body types aren't super varied I think Tracer, Pharah and Mercy make a decent balance to Widowmaker and Symmetra in terms of sexy vs practical. People have wibbled on Mercy's boob plate but even then you got two sexy, two practical and one inbetween.

 

 

Pretty much the Diablo 3 approach.  That game actually had some pretty decent female designs for the pc's, with only the Demon Hunter being annoyingly fettishy.  The Overwatch ladies, have a pretty nice balance.  Widowmaker, the "sexist" by far, is actually the one I find the most dull.  Tracer got bonus points for the cinematic, she's pretty fun in it.

 

As for the game.  I just am not into pvp style gameplay.  It is a shame, I love the designs and the world, but with no single or co-op campaign, I have a hard time getting really interested.  I do hope it does well for Blizzard, and it does have a good chance to do so.  Team Fortress 2 is very old now, and Overwatch will get attention for this by virtue of being Blizzard, so if the gameplay is there, it will do well.


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Posted 08 November 2014 - 10:47 PM

 

Hmm...

 

 

Metzen relayed the tale during an Overwatch press conference at BlizzCon. He also said that Blizzard is trying to represent a more diverse, less overly sexualized group of characters than they did in the past.

 

Yeah.. they're sort of there with the diversity, race-wise, but all of the female characters so far look like they have the same super-sexy body with slight variations.

The guys on the other hand have cool weird stuff like a dwarf, a robot monk, a gorilla, and an old guy completely obscured by giant power armor.

 

They're not terrible, but they could be better. 

It seems like not all the classes have been revealed, so hopefully there are some surprises left.

Yeah people are already complaining about Widowmaker. But even if the body types aren't super varied I think Tracer, Pharah and Mercy make a decent balance to Widowmaker and Symmetra in terms of sexy vs practical. People have wibbled on Mercy's boob plate but even then you got two sexy, two practical and one inbetween.

 

 

Honestly I think Tracer and Mercy are still pretty sexualized. Tracer's got a nice butt.

 

Speaking of butts, Widowmaker's butt inflates for some reason. I have no idea why.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:43 AM

It strikes me that feminine beauty is such that simply being feminine can be construed as "sexy". That's the astonishing power they wield.

Use it with care.

 

No, but really. I mean, they weren't wiggling any of their wobbly bits. And there is diversity in that group. I didn't have a problem with any of it. Dudes show off their guns or go shirtless all the time. Our heroes often have ideal physiques because the flabby guy isn't gonna make it up that flight of steps to the final boss, you know? If a lady can look the way she wants to (or she's written to want to) and demonstrate superior skill, that's damned empowering and good on her for it.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 11:58 AM

Welcome to the argument that's been going on forever Strafe. Where the line between feminine and sexualized is. What constitutes over sexualized. Why ideal bodies are ok for one but not for all. It's an argument with terminology like "power fantasy" and "male gaze" among others.

It's impossible to make everyone happy because what some people consider a personal power fantasy others will consider a outdated harmful representation that should not exist

I was actually surprised when he said he didn't know if he was doing it to the guys or not as usually people who talk about this stuff claim it's impossible to over sexualized males.

Edited by Murry, 09 November 2014 - 12:11 PM.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 02:05 PM

just make an awesome  fat girl protagonist. that kicks ass and takes names. Something like a female kung fu panda . 


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 02:39 PM

It's impossible to make everyone happy because what some people consider a personal power fantasy others will consider a outdated harmful representation that should not exist

 

When you're right, you're right.

The sexuality isn't getting top billing, so I don't see any harm being done, here. As I said, the group has diversity. If the game box depicts something that looks like it came straight out of a Vampirella or Dejah Thoris comic, then I'll concede intent.

People have their reasons for wanting to show off as much as the people who are humble about their appearance. It's not breaking the suspension of disbelief to see fictitious characters with such motivations. You said it yourself - where is the line? I'm not convinced, by what we've seen, that the intent by Blizzard's developers is to cross it. I understand why these discussions are happening more often than ever. If they herald progress and understanding, then I'll be glad that they're happening.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 02:57 PM

Even marketing doesn't convey intent however. Depending on who is doing the marketing anyways. Someone whose opinions I'm not a fan if argued that femshep in mass effect was evidence if a trope because the marketing focused in maleshep. But Rhe publisher decided that, not the developer who made the two options completely equal.

Then you got cases like Bayonetta when the sexualization is over the top even and clearly intended to be that way but the character herself has been said by her designer to be her own personal power fantasy. And I can see how.

I would argue even there isn't a real problem having pure T&A titles or characters as long as they aren't the dominant representation in the industry. Nor is there really any harm in enjoying that kind of stuff in and of itself.

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 03:00 PM

It strikes me that feminine beauty is such that simply being feminine can be construed as "sexy". That's the astonishing power they wield.
Use it with care.
 
No, but really. I mean, they weren't wiggling any of their wobbly bits. And there is diversity in that group. I didn't have a problem with any of it. Dudes show off their guns or go shirtless all the time. Our heroes often have ideal physiques because the flabby guy isn't gonna make it up that flight of steps to the final boss, you know? If a lady can look the way she wants to (or she's written to want to) and demonstrate superior skill, that's damned empowering and good on her for it.


I just wonder why all the girls have to be conventionally attractive when the male cast includes a monkey and a hunched over diminutive old man.

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:10 PM

Hanzo?

 

Even marketing doesn't convey intent however. Depending on who is doing the marketing anyways. Someone whose opinions I'm not a fan if argued that femshep in mass effect was evidence if a trope because the marketing focused in maleshep.

 

But but but female Commander Shepard shared a trailer and a case cover with the male Commander Shepard! So. The Bayonetta example you used is a good one, I think. We have a character who is clearly strong, confident, and capable. Maybe that's not enough to undo the perceived harm being wrought? I have no idea, I've never played Bayonetta. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about this kind of stuff.

We're way off the rails, here. Intent can be interpreted and twisted any way a person wants it, but there's probably a good reason why I've never seen Blizzard accused of selling sexuality or being insensitive* before.

 

*Unless you play an Alliance toon!

*Brewfest is also kinda iffy.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:26 PM

I'm not talking about the fact that one or some of the men are conventionally attractive. I'm talking about hoaw none of the women are allowed to be as diverse body type wise.

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:34 PM

I'm not talking about the fact that one or some of the men are conventionally attractive. I'm talking about hoaw none of the women are allowed to be as diverse body type wise.

 

Cuz nobody wants to play as a fat chick or a dumpy chick. Harsh but true.

 

The reason the dorf and the monkey are in the game is for the comedic superhero/videogame cliche factor. You know, so players can giggle at banana jokes and bad accents.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:45 PM

This is so the First Person MOBA we've been waiting for.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:46 PM

What's with that, anyway. I've noticed a lot of terrible acting in Blizzard games, of late.

 

I'm not talking about the fact that one or some of the men are conventionally attractive. I'm talking about hoaw none of the women are allowed to be as diverse body type wise.

 

One fat guy. One. An ape is not a guy.

These discussions are tiring. If you're going to be argumentative for the pure "joy" of arguing, then you should learn to be fair as well.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 05:57 PM

... Why are you assuming I'm doing this for the joy of it?

I think its stilted and an unfortunately tired element of character design in what is otherwise an amazingly creative game. I'm not starting a fight because I love getting people riled up, I'm saying my peace in a discussion thread OTHER PEOPLE started and because it's something that I feel strongly about.

And Winston is clearly identified as a he. Hell, the robot is referred to as a dude.

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Posted 09 November 2014 - 06:19 PM

Because it's a frivolous thing to argue when there is, again, one fat Dwarf. The rest are dudes who are clearly fit.

If it sounds simple, that's because it is. Animals are animals and robots are robots. They're allowed more freedom of diverse design than humans are, but apes tend to be pretty big. Especially fictitious ones that talk. Obviously!

 

How about that Overwatch, eh? Eh?!

It doesn't help, I know, but the Dwarf and robots are the ones I'd be most interested in playing. I feel that way about, like, every game ever. Tracer has a lot of charm, so she's high on the list, as well.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 06:23 PM

http://a.pomf.se/katxxs.webm

 

so can someone explain what's going on here to me?


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 08:14 PM

well obviously widow activates their sniper mode which slides on their sniper sights and inflates ass pockets so that they can sit around somewhere for a long time while they take careful aim.

 

 

More seriously probably blending animation between morphs and there was a different in the ass slider between the times the animations were made. It actually took me several times to even notice the ass thing as I was looking at the eyes wondering why you were asking.



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Posted 09 November 2014 - 08:51 PM

http://www.forbes.co...-project-titan/

 

Oh, so that's why it came out so quickly.


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Posted 09 November 2014 - 08:52 PM

Put me in the "Blizzard needs to just make kick ass CGI movies and/or TV series" group. The animation team is top notch in all that they do, simply amazing!





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