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Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

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Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:29 AM)

The best way to prove this is to give an example where the match is really lopsided in favor of one character but in popularity they're either evenly matched or the weaker one is more popular.

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:27 AM)

The "who would win in a fight" discussions are really just people trying to make "which one's better" into something you can theoretically measure objectively, usually in a very specific way they think they've predetermined their favorite will win.

@  Otaku : (04 August 2020 - 02:01 AM)

@Nevermore So... you're saying you didn't like DC Versus Marvel/Marvel Versus DC?

@  Steevy Maximus : (03 August 2020 - 06:59 PM)

So, what happened to Hasbro's Zoids relaunch? An English dub, some stuff in southeast Asia, and now a game coming in October? That it?

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 10:46 AM)

Tidal wave, cause shooting water gets you nowhere.

@  Darth Gonzo : (03 August 2020 - 09:57 AM)

Who would win Tidal Wave or Broadside?

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Btw Happy birthday to those people in the box to the right \o/

@  -LittleAutob... : (03 August 2020 - 08:16 AM)

The bottom line is obvious. It makes no literal sense to fight someone on your faction. :/

@  wonko the sane? : (03 August 2020 - 06:14 AM)

That's because you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to just stack skills and ability against each other. It's not the palace of doom, it's an episode of american gladiators.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:32 AM)

The only obvious winners of such a fight would be the bad guys.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

And what does it even matter? They should work together, not stupidly fight each other for the mindless entertainment of idiot onlookers.

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:29 AM)

Why would two good guys fight each other? What are they fighting over?

@  Nevermore : (03 August 2020 - 04:28 AM)

I never understood these "who would win in a fight between two good guys" discussions. They make no sense to me.

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If G1 had continued we'd have had Starscream back in spirit - through Krunk, Snapdragons partner and possibly Skullcruncher unless he was mute.

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There are some decent impersonators in fandubs though.

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The only true Starscream voices are Steve Blum and Chris Latta, hands down.

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Why they didn't have Scott McNeil voicing that Starscream, when he was the one who had imitated Chris Latta when he voiced Cobra Commander in the DiC G.I. Joe cartoon, is beyond me.

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Say what you will, that was an awesome scene.

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I liked TF: Prime Starscream.

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Hearing Starscream's screechy voice in Cyberverse has to be the most annoying thing ever in Transformers. Even his G1 voice wasn't as bad. :doh

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#61 Maruten

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 06:09 PM

Hadn't even thought of Dana! They can get one of the dudes who played Oscar to come back.

 

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 06:14 PM

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 06:27 PM

When was the last time hollywood put an average woman on the screen and it didn't end in a "pretty woman" montage where she gets a complete make over and becomes a super model?

 

Like, every weekend? That sort of Pygmalion bullshit only really happens in teen-oriented movies and/or terrible romantic comedies and/or terrible teen-oriented romantic comedies.

 

Look, I wish this were a continuation and not a reboot. But I like the idea of a new team (instead of recasting Venkman, Spengler, et. al.), I like the idea of a female team, and I like the actors' names that have been tossed around so far. Poehler, Wiig, McCarthy, etc. And most importantly, I'm totally confident in Paul Feig. He's a great writer and director, who created "Freaks & Geeks," which earns him my lifetime approval, but who also directed lots of great television (Arrested Development, the Office, Mad Men, 30 Rock, Bored to Death) in addition to "Bridesmaids," which was excellent. I didn't see "The Heat," but I think overall he's a guy who knows how to make quality entertainment. I'm satisfied with this being in his hands.



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Posted 13 October 2014 - 06:47 PM

When you put it like that I agree that it's a pretty attractive resume.

 

I think there are three things this movie needs in order to be a success:

 

1. Funny people

2. Smart writing

3. Respect for the OSM

 

That respect doesn't necessarily have to come in the form of a direct continuation of the originals' work. But it has to be there somehow. Because Ghostbusters is one of the greatest and most beloved movies of all time.

 

I'm all for a female team, but I hope they don't push that angle too much. If they make the whole thing about "WOO LOOK WOMEN" then they break the whole thing. It needs to walk a tricky line between "legitimate selling point" and "irritating gimmick". And really it should be aiming for "not even an issue, peoples is peoples, shut your face-hole and get on with it".

 

Heck knows there are many immensely talented women around today who are more than funny enough to fit well in a Ghostbusters movie.


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Posted 13 October 2014 - 07:06 PM

If the new movie will be about another team of Ghostbusters  - fine.

If it's a total reboot - NO! PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOZER, NO!!!!!!!



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Posted 13 October 2014 - 08:55 PM

Ooooooh, get the babies or baby to come back! That'd be the link to the old team, haha. He can be the token male in the team.

What if they do an alternate timeline thing like Star Trek? Reboot but not. Some omni universal dimension spanning old god trying to take over. Hope they don't do a female Staypuff. He can stay as is.

Sex and the City cast as Ghostbusters, haha. Miranda Egon, Charlotte Ray, whatshername Peter. Sarah Jessica Parker as Winston?

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 09:49 PM

Sarah Jessica Parker as some evil spectral horse....makeup not even needed...saves money on the budget.


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Posted 14 October 2014 - 02:35 AM

Okay, so here's the thing I don't entirely get. Ghostbusters is by no means a big sprawling continuity - there's two movies, a video game, and a couple of cartoons I assume don't actually count. Why is it important that this new movie should be in continuity with that? I totally get people wanting this new movie to respect the old ones, but there are so many ways to do that beyond a five-minute discussion about how great the original Ghostbusters were or defining the new cast by their relation to the old one. Plus it's easier to disown it if it turns out bad! :D

If I were talking about this anywhere else, this is where I'd say "well maybe it's because I'm a Transformers fan and Transformers is chock-full of new things being their own continuity' but I'm on the Allspark so...

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 06:04 AM

I think one of the problems with calling it a reboot is you now need to reestablish the world and its parameters. That means another drawn-out leadup to OMG GHOSTS ARE A THING and HAY LET'S BE EXTERMINATORS BUT WITH GHOSTS GUYS. And with modern decompressed storytelling... Yeah, that's the whole runtime devoted to 'YES WE KNOW THIS ALREADY GET ON WITH IT'.

 

The other issue with modern reboots, I think, is their need to justify themselves and show how different they are, thus leading to HAY GUYS REMEMBER THIS THING FROM THE FIRST TIME? LOOK AT IT, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT AND LOOK AT IT AND THEN DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WOW LOOK HOW DIFFERENT WE ARE DON'T FORGET WE'RE A REBOOT THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM BEFORE!


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Posted 14 October 2014 - 07:49 AM

A lot of time went by since the original, so why not a reboot - the old cast are too old to play those roles again. But making the cast ALL-female feels like a forced decision. I mean, why not make it an even 2-2 female/male ratio? The old movie was a product of its time when female leads in such type of movies were rare.  If they make the whole cast female, it'd be like some weird fetishist R63 of the movie, with female Egon, female Peter and so on.

 

A better idea would be to have the old cast-reappear as being retired and they would serve as mentors to a new team.

 

 

When was the last time hollywood put an average woman on the screen and it didn't end in a "pretty woman" montage where she gets a complete make over and becomes a super model?

 

Let's face it, that's true for average men, too. In Hollywood if you are not pretty, either you are a villain or a gritty grizzled anti-hero (see Ron Perlman or Danny Treyo).

 

 

The idea just reminds me of those horror stories about how you hear of Hollywood moguls with insane agendas, like that one producer who tried to put giant spiders in everything and finally got his way with Wild, Wild West.

 

Female Ghostbusters could work (Kylie was great in Extreme), but this sounds less like a story/character pitch and more like some TG fan art you'd find on deviantArt.

 

It actually reminds me of a recent Ultimate Spiderman episode where he crosses into another universe which is basically a R63-ed version of Peter's, with a female Spiderman, Norma Osborn, Janet J. Jameson and so on. It was cringe-worthy, though most of that show usually is.


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Posted 14 October 2014 - 08:29 AM

Nutjob, you just encapsulated why a full reboot is such a waste.

Have Ray still running his Occult store, Winston could be helping. Peter and Dana are happily settled.

One of the soon-to-be-Ghostbusters could be friends with or dating Oscar. Some others could be caught up in a ghost encounter and get inspired. The 'Old Guard' give guidance but have retired, so the girls decide to pick up the slack.

The big annoucement of reboot/all-girl squad just sounds like "we're updating this beloved story for Modern audiences and giving a Fresh take on the Ghostbusters by having an ALL-GIRL team. It's Grounded and topical, showing tough, sexy, independant women".

A total reboot is unnecessary.

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 09:43 AM

Fair point Wonko. But, they should at least be slightly average and somewhat geeky.

I get Hollywood glamorizes sex appeal. But I want it at least to not be overdone or done in bad taste.

I at least want one female that's like Egon or something. Also it's okay for any one of them to be hot. It just shouldn't distract from the movie or plot in a stupid way. A hot looking girl who's a credited university professor should at least seem professional. Even if they have super model looks.

It's a big piss for me that Ramis is dead. Egon was my favourite ghost buster as a kid. And I loved Ramis a lot because of it.

If anything I'd figure Ramis death while sad and tragic was a perfect excuse for a torch passing.

Plus seeing Egon die in a flashback would be heavy.

Sounds like the studio dosen't want to give royalties.

I'm not afraid of change. But the originals deserve both a homage and a tribute to Egon (Harold Ramis).

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 09:48 AM

Get Jeff Goldblum to play older Egon, and frankly I'd be happy. :)

To me - frankly  -Ghostbusters was the cartoon first and the movies second, and cartoon Egon reminded me more of Goldblum than of Ramis.

 

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Nutjob, you just encapsulated why a full reboot is such a waste.

Have Ray still running his Occult store, Winston could be helping. Peter and Dana are happily settled.

One of the soon-to-be-Ghostbusters could be friends with or dating Oscar. Some others could be caught up in a ghost encounter and get inspired. The 'Old Guard' give guidance but have retired, so the girls decide to pick up the slack.

The big annoucement of reboot/all-girl squad just sounds like "we're updating this beloved story for Modern audiences and giving a Fresh take on the Ghostbusters by having an ALL-GIRL team. It's Grounded and topical, showing tough, sexy, independant women".

A total reboot is unnecessary.

 

Heck I'd be happy if they do it like in the 90ies Extreme Ghostbusters toon.


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Posted 14 October 2014 - 03:50 PM

Honestly, I don't see why it's even necessary to even show the old guard. Jeez, even just have the commercial spot from GB2 showing up on a screen somewhere, and you've shown 'Remember this world? This is the world you're in. MOVE ON' and get to the story already.

 

God, have them Ghostbusters in Wisconson or something! Geographic separation means the old dudes don't even come within artillery distance~


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Posted 14 October 2014 - 04:29 PM

Recasting would be a worrying approach, but if they did choose to recast Egon... you get Maurice LaMarche! :)


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Posted 14 October 2014 - 07:10 PM

Fair point Wonko. But, they should at least be slightly average and somewhat geeky.


Not disagreeing. None of the original crew were models, and Hollywood focuses entirely too much on physical appearance anyway. They need to be folks you would see on the street and not really notice. Doesn't matter what their sex is.
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Posted 14 October 2014 - 07:41 PM

Moreover, they need to be talented actors.  The original performers were brilliant actors and comedians in their own right and they brought an incredible wealth of talent to their respective parts.

 

Whoever they pick needs to be picked because they're really good at what the part calls for, rather than popularity or appearance.  Which is, sadly, not what Hollywood does these days, especially with female roles.

 

Again, I have very little faith in Hollywood to do this right.


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Posted 14 October 2014 - 10:40 PM

Depends... they going to get Paris Hilton to ruin our childhood for us?


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Posted 14 October 2014 - 11:46 PM

Uh no that role goes to Megan Fox

 

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Posted 15 October 2014 - 01:31 AM

There are four leading roles, they could conceivably have Paris Hilton and Megan Fox with room left over for two more.  To say nothing of the supporting cast.


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