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@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:51 PM)

it was....... SPOILERS..... Detective Conan.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 02:38 PM)

let the bodies hit the floor, let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the.....FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 02:34 PM)

Only almost?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 02:17 PM)

someone dies almost every episode.

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM)

Don't be in an anime?

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 01:11 PM)

An episode of an anime I watched was about a woman who killed her husband because he spent most of his money on toys instead of on her. Let this be a lesson to us all.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 August 2017 - 02:24 PM)

You'd be a banker.

@  RichardT1977 : (17 August 2017 - 12:20 PM)

What if you paid your job but they don't love you?

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 08:01 PM)

...crap, never mind, enough searching and I turned it up. I am convinced this would not have happened without asking.

@  BlackMax : (16 August 2017 - 07:43 PM)

Forgive me for being the last one aboard the bus that came and went after the previous bus... but can anyone direct me to the comic based on UW Megatronia?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 04:36 PM)

I'll refer to Simon Furman's work on Dreamwave.

@  OrionPax44 : (16 August 2017 - 04:28 PM)

How bout if you love your job but they don't pay you?

@  Bass X0 : (16 August 2017 - 02:31 PM)

It doesn't feel like work when you love your job!

@  2017 : (16 August 2017 - 08:24 AM)

Why do you want to remove it? Just in the way or something?

@  Pennpenn : (16 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

I wonder if there's any way to remove Destiny 2 from the Battlenet launcher entirely?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 August 2017 - 01:55 PM)

Cause they wanna slice your head off but irritation is all they can pull off.

@  Benbot : (15 August 2017 - 10:59 AM)

why do electric razors do such a poor job with the neck?

@  RichardT1977 : (13 August 2017 - 08:17 PM)

"We Are Number One" but with the cancer in remission.


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#1 rodimus primevil

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 06:11 PM

Im shocked that no one has talked bout this:

 

 

If you haven't already been bombarded by this news, where have you been for the past 12 hours!?

Social media has exploded overnight with comments and tweets about Paul Feig's plans for a new female centric Ghostbusters movie, spurred on by announcements made by Sony Pictures' official social media accounts. Entertainment Weekly also has an interview with the would-be Director where he discusses his vision for a new Ghostbusters movie including rebooting the whole franchise in a completely different universe with female actresses taking the lead. The news also includes the hiring of The Heat's writer Katie Dipplod to work on the script.

Fans have been raising their concerns on social media, such as the Ghostbusters Fans Facebook page and Twitter. Before everyone gets up in arms about this movie, everyone needs to remember this important fact. We have been to this point in "Ghostbusters 3" development several times. It was only a few years ago now that Etan Cohen was hired as the writer with Ivan Reitman directing. A few years before that, it was Lee Eisenberg & Gene Stupnitsky. And for a decade before that, Dan Aykroyd was certain he had the best script for a new Ghostbusters movie.

Before jumping to rash decisions and making a bunch of ignorant comments, let's consider for a second that this doesn't actually put us any closer to a new Ghostbusters movie than we have been before. It might be fun to think about the idea, or dismiss it entirely, but whatever does come out of it will be a positive change for the Ghostbusters franchise.

 

 

From Gbfans.com

 

Seriously, this is devistating. Two movies and an awesome videogame: gone, never happened. Dr. Peter Venkman, Dr. Egon Spengler, and Dr. Ray Stant and Winston Zeddmore: never existed, which means also no unlicenced nuclear accelerator or traps or pke meter.

 

Star Ernie Hudson had this to say:

 

 

“I heard it was going to be a total reboot, and that it would have nothing to do with the other two movies. If it has nothing to do with the other two movies, and it’s all female, then why are you calling it Ghostbusters?” Hudson said, echoing a lot of fans’ opinions we’ve heard this week. But lest he be accused of also echoing a lot of fans’ opinions that other fans wish they would stop expressing, because they’re usually followed by a bunch of sexist bulljive, Hudson made it clear it’s not females he has problem with, per se. In fact, he loves females.

“I love females. I hope that if they go that way at least they’ll be funny, and if they’re not funny at least hopefully it’ll be sexy,” Hudson said of this film starring women who, if they can’t make us laugh, maybe they can work that proton pack realllll nice. Ooh yeah, trap those ectoplasmic entities, stick them in the containment system, set your entry grid, and neutronize your field like the EPA and your momma told you not to, girl. “I love the idea of including women, I think that’s great,” Hudson adds, graciously.

 

 

So am I wrong for being upset?

 

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 06:23 PM

I don't see why it HAS to be a complete reboot, but I totally support the idea of a female cast. Imagine a bunch of female scientists and psychologists battling the supernatural? Yes, please.

The only thing I'm against is restarting the universe, but since we'll never have the original cast back together I love the all girl cast. BUT I hate that sexy ghost logo you included in the post. Not needed.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 06:25 PM

lost a bit of respect for Hudson.


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 06:28 PM

I have no faith in Hollywood to treat an all-female cast with dignity.  But I like the idea.

 

Reboot is meh.  I mean, they can't take the original movie away from us, much like New Star Trek can't ever really replace Old Star Trek.  So if they want to do a fresh start, I have no issue with it.

 

But, you know, the sexy ghost image pretty much spells out why that would be a disaster.  Not because it's a bad idea, but because men still think with their dicks.

 

Also, way to keep it classy there, Hudson.  Way to keep it classy.  *facepalm*



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Posted 12 October 2014 - 06:30 PM

lost a bit of respect for Hudson.

JUst out of curiousity, why?

 

And before anybody jumps to any conclusions, I am not against lady busters. We've had em before. In Real Ghostbusters, Extreme Ghostbusters, and the ongoing IDW comics all had lady busters picking up the wand. Janine, Kyle and Agent Melanie Ortiz were all capable busters. When the director who had done the Movie Bridemaids and the heat talk bout all female busters, this is what I think of:

 

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Melissa McCarty is not someone I wanna see in a jumpsuit.

 

Kristian Wiig I can deal with. When I think of female ghostbuster, I think of Emma Stone, Eliza Dushku, someone who is a strong female.

 

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 06:30 PM

Read his statement again. Its questionable at best.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:11 PM

It's the reboot thing that bugs me more than anything.

 

No problem with the females, though something about all four of them being women just feels like stunt casting to me. Unless they're just doing a full Rule 63 reboot, and we're seeing Raye Stantz, Petra Venkman, Winnie Zeddemore, and Egonia Spengler, with John Melnitz taking calls and Louise Tully keeping books. Then I can totally get behind that.

 

But maybe I'm just partial to the New Ghostbusters comic with Janine, Kylie, Melanie, and Ron.

 

In the end, I'm not pleased with the news of ditching the old canon, but I'll wait and see how this goes and just judge it on its own merit.

 

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:17 PM

Put me in the camp who has no problem with the idea of an all lady Ghostbusters cast, but I'm not so down with the idea of them rebooting the universe. Especially when the existing canon can absolutely accept an all-female team, be it in another city or as a "next generation" type thing.



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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:27 PM

Oh, Ernie. Good grief.

 

It's hard to believe this film will ever actually exist. If it does... well, why bother throwing out the first two? It's a hundred years later, you don't need a full reboot to justify the new cast. Maybe open with a nice tribute to Harold Ramis and then let the old guys get out of the way while the new bunch get going.



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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:35 PM

Make it Chicago based, and have these women come into it on their own. They can come across the original team's research while looking up their own stuff. You can even do a meet up with one of the old guard to get that in there, but these charactets should have their own story to play out. It's the only way it'll stand the test of time in its own right.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:41 PM

Read his statement again. Its questionable at best.


I have and so have others, its all over facebook and most gbfans accept it. Ive met Ernie and hes the nicest person.

Lets put it this way: we want this:

http://www.welovefin...romper-Judy.jpg


As opposed to this:


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:42 PM

Ok I'm for an all female cast as long as the comedy is there and lets face it theres some really good lady comedians

 

If you cast well and not shoehorn ppl into the roles it could be fun


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:44 PM

 

Read his statement again. Its questionable at best.


I have and so have others, its all over facebook and most gbfans accept it. Ive met Ernie and hes the nicest person.

Lets put it this way: we want this:

http://www.welovefin...romper-Judy.jpg


As opposed to this:


http://www.snazzles....umes/888607.jpg

 

Well you might not want the second one but dont speek for the rest of us :D


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:45 PM

I'm another that doesn't mind the idea of a female cast, but don't really understand the need to discard the old continuity.

 

As long as it's not Sex in the City: Ghostbusters Edition, which I could entirely believe Hollywood would try to make.



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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:50 PM

I'm another that doesn't mind the idea of a female cast, but don't really understand the need to discard the old continuity.
 
As long as it's not Sex in the City: Ghostbusters Edition, which I could entirely believe Hollywood would try to make.


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:52 PM

I'm in with the folks who don't understand the need for the reboot. Given how old the original cast has gotten, and that some of them have passed, how hard would it be to rip of the series intro to extreme ghostbusters, and just have the originals move on and bring in the new blood.

 

And the extended franchise already has lots of strong women characters, old and new. Just don't make it an hour an a half of pointless T&A and sexist uniforms.



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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:53 PM

So am I wrong for being upset?


I don't know, but I do know that I lost all ability to take you seriously once you posted that "reboot" image.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:59 PM

I don't think the film needs to be a continuity reboot.

 

The rest of that stuff is fine though.


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 08:00 PM

Make it Chicago based, and have these women come into it on their own. They can come across the original team's research while looking up their own stuff. You can even do a meet up with one of the old guard to get that in there, but these charactets should have their own story to play out. It's the only way it'll stand the test of time in its own right.

You know what? I like the idea, if its set in the old universe, they'll have all the internet stuff to get them started, along with a few "hacked" proton pack and trap schemata.

 

But why the love for chicago? If they gotta set it anywhere, set it in the city that already looks like the world ended: detroit or nothing!



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Posted 12 October 2014 - 08:03 PM

This isn't RoboCop. I'm all for post ghost Armageddon but this MIGHT not be the movie for it.



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