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@  Telly : (27 February 2017 - 01:10 AM)

i didnt. not until '83 anyway :thumbsup

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 01:00 AM)

Yeah, that was a hard one to take. So many nerds from '77 on must've grown up having a crush on her

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:34 AM)

I mean, I knew it was coming, but just hearing Carrie say "May the Force be with you" hurt :(

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:32 AM)

They always save the saddest deaths for last in the "in memoriam" sequence.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:30 AM)

I am glad they made the right choice with Best Animated, even if it was a tough call this year.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:28 AM)

I remember him from the old days on Breaker High airing on YTV

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:28 AM)

Also, Ryan Gosling. Ugh, go #### yourself Ryan Gosling, with your perfect bone structure

@  NotVeryKnightly : (27 February 2017 - 12:26 AM)

Since there's way more nominees than winners in every category that's not exactly unusual.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:25 AM)

Even then, I think it lost more nominations than it won.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:24 AM)

I think the reason La La Land won so many awards is because it was basically Hollywood stroking its own ego

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:20 AM)

Kinda glad. I like Emma Stone, but for whatever reason I can't stand that movie. I'm surprised it didn't win though, as it was typical Oscar bait

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:19 AM)

This is just goddamn surreal.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:19 AM)

Holy shit. It had the second-most nominations of any movie, and La La Land just lost Best Picture.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:11 AM)

"Look where I've been, I make everything happen! Look at that mean Mini Maui just tikkity tappin'! Ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HEY!"

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:10 AM)

Yeah, same. "You're Welcome" is honestly the best song in the movie.

@  TM2-Megatron : (27 February 2017 - 12:06 AM)

I liked the Moana song, though personally I enjoyed You're Welcome a little bit more because of the humor.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:04 AM)

Ah, well. As much as him not getting an Oscar hurts, Lin-Manuel has a shitload of awards already, so missing out on one isn't too bad. The guy managed to hit the jackpot with the Tonys for Hamilton and win a Grammy for it and get an Emmy... Somewhere. Don't know where he got the Emmy.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:02 AM)

@NVK: I realize that, but I still don't like that a terrible Zak Snyder film managed to even get an award.

@  ShadowMan024 : (27 February 2017 - 12:00 AM)

Look, I can understand The Force Awakens not getting a single award. Hell, I can even understand why Transformers lost to The Golden Compass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (27 February 2017 - 12:00 AM)

But Moana and Suicide Squad weren't nominated for the same things.

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 11:47 PM)

We officially live in a world where a film involving Zak Snyder is apparently more deserving of an award than Lin-Manuel Miranda.

@  TM2-Megatron : (26 February 2017 - 10:58 PM)

I was pretty shocked Star Trek Beyond lost out in Best Makeup to Suicide Squad. Killer Croc looked good, but Trek had a lot of good alien makeup

@  Maruten : (26 February 2017 - 10:36 PM)

I was surprised to see that everyone's so into La La Land. On paper it seems right up my alley, but I thought it was pretty... meh.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 February 2017 - 09:38 PM)

I read that as EPCOT status

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 09:26 PM)

I have a sinking feeling La La Land is going to win Best Song and keep Lin-Manuel Miranda from achieving EGOT status.

@  Echowarrior : (26 February 2017 - 07:12 PM)

Our Hydra is better than Marvel's Hydra. Just saying.

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 07:05 PM)

ALL HAIL THE MAGIC CONCH!

@  TriBlurr : (26 February 2017 - 07:03 PM)

Hail Hydra!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 06:22 PM)

Don't we still have Hydra?

@  Verno : (26 February 2017 - 06:10 PM)

There was always the chance we had some Japanese members on the board.

@  Confuzor : (26 February 2017 - 06:01 PM)

I got my MP Primal pretty quickly, but I haven't sent the payment confirmation on my Cheetor yet

@  Paladin : (26 February 2017 - 05:32 PM)

he's been out what, 3 days? Most shipping methods aren't THAT fast...

@  Verno : (26 February 2017 - 04:52 PM)

Does anyone have MP Cheetor in hand yet?

@  Confuzor : (26 February 2017 - 03:11 PM)

Y'all need more Rocko's Modern Life

@  Noideaforaname : (26 February 2017 - 11:04 AM)

I remember watching Doug all the time as a kid, but I watch it now and I don't at all see the appeal. *shrug* On the plus side, it added the word "nematode" to my vocabulary.

@  Paladin : (26 February 2017 - 10:47 AM)

https://twitter.com/CBR/status/835877002192306176 ...game over, man. :(

@  unluckiness : (26 February 2017 - 09:25 AM)

better than the current ones at least

@  Rycochet : (26 February 2017 - 09:08 AM)

90s Nicktoons were awful.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 February 2017 - 08:16 AM)

Yeah, I'd get really pumped to watch it and the other Nicktoons.

@  lastmaximal : (26 February 2017 - 08:04 AM)

You digdug?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 February 2017 - 07:40 AM)

Hate watching stuff like that.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 February 2017 - 07:40 AM)

Also, I digged Doug. Mostly for the ancillary characters, though. Doug himself is one of those characters who gets into situations that make YOU feel embarrassd. Like Fred Savage on The Wonder Years.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 February 2017 - 07:39 AM)

@PlutoniumBoss *Pinwheel fistbump*

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 February 2017 - 07:38 AM)

I remember Today's Special. The Toronto part was something of a revelation from my wife and her family when I came here.

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 02:34 AM)

In hindsight, I'm pretty sure Miss Frizzle was a Time Lord.

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 February 2017 - 02:34 AM)

I got into science because of Magic School Bus.

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 February 2017 - 11:25 PM)

Anyone else remember Puttnam's Prairie Emporium? Not sure if it aired outside Canada

@  TM2-Megatron : (25 February 2017 - 11:21 PM)

Today's Special was a favourite of mine. Some of it was actually filmed at a department store here in Toronto

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 February 2017 - 10:34 PM)

Eureka! and Start Here were awesome too.

@  The Doctor Who : (25 February 2017 - 09:59 PM)

I remember watching Newton's Apple on PBS. That's where I learned about thermal insulation layers and why things change temperature faster when you blow on them.


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Posted 07 September 2014 - 04:28 PM

Well, there are advantages/disadvantages to each origin:

Supergirl I: an attempt at a clone of Superman, created from the Kryptonian birthing matrix that carried him to Earth (thus her nickname, "Mae," from "Matrix"). Problem: this requires the Post-Crisis origin (no mere rocket ship), though I guess Kal-El carrying the Kryptonian gene-MacGuffin could be used instead. The question would be how to extract it from him (or he might create Supergirl himself since he obviously finds no companionship from humans).

Supergirl II (PAD's run): Matrix-Supergirl merged with a dying human girl (Linda Danvers), and became an Earth-Born Angel. Problem: draws heavily on supernatural themes (which might make a cool crossover with Constantine, admittedly), and requires Mae to have existed (though, if they use Constantine as an in, they could sidestep the Matrix entirely and have "Supergirl" as a cosmic entity that possesses Linda).

Supergirl III: Kara Zor-El, Kal-El's cousin. This is the "iconic" Supergirl, but it naturally carries the question of "where's Superman?" The trouble here would be the choice between trying to fit it into the pre-existing Snyderverse or doing a "soft reboot" which might confuse the idiots in the audience ("so, there's a Superman, but he's not Superman? What was the movie for?" --see how people are scratching their heads over Arrow being connected to MoS being connected to the Nolan Batman movies :rolleyes ).

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:06 PM

I personally hope for the Kara Zor-El version or something like it.


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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:15 PM

On the one hand I think PAD's run is probably easily the best written run on the character ever, but yeah stories are sadly predicated on the least accessible version of the character. And Kara is easily the simplest, most well known, and most iconic version of her. "Superman's younger cousin' is really what Supergirl should always be.

 

 

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:32 PM

If it ends up being some wretched teen drama, as surely it will, the cover of PAD's first issue would be a great foundation for promo images.

 

 

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:24 PM

Be nice if this could become CW's new Buffy.

Big shoes to fill, but that's not a bad formula.

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:54 PM

 

What do I think about this?  I say we better hope this does not become another horrible teen drama.  If it's like Smallville, I will live with that, but I will not tolerate a Supergirl show that pretends to be like Sabrina The Teenage Witch.

 

I don't think being like Sabrina would be a huge problem -- DC could use something fun and accessible that isn't angsty and broody (which I don't recall Sabrina being, but I never did see a lot of it). But on the whole, if we're looking for something to pattern it after, I guess a toned-down Buffy would be pretty cool. 

 

And yup. As much as I liked PAD's Supergirl era, I agree with Zac in that applying its storytelling strengths to the classic/iconic/simplest character iteration would be the way to go.

 

Just... let this be fun, guys, please.



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Posted 09 September 2014 - 04:47 AM

Hmmm, as long as it is nothing like Smallville... I would probably check it out. Arrow and Flash are stand-alone heroes who make sense in their private universe/city, but Supergirl doesn't really work without establishing Superman first.

However, I doubt they would use the movie universe... or Smallville. They will maybe even make the GASP-inducing choice to have Supergirl arrive and be active on Earth BEFORE Superman. I mean, based on what we saw from Arrow, Batman certainly doesn't exist yet, so Ollie did the whole vigilante thing first.

 

Cybersnark - thanks for giving a comprehensive breakdown of the three! Having read iconic stories featuring them but not the whole DC run, I never understood why there were so many origins for her - I thought she ALWAYS was Supes' cousin, like in TAS, since that made the most sense. I remember seeing her as an angel in the Emperor Joker story and not knowing what the heck that was... or seeing her seemingly just being introduced in the Superman-Batman Public Enemies spinoff as if she was a new character. (Never understood whether those stories were canon or not, 'cause they seem to contradict prior events as much as the new 52 reboot did). What does PAD stand for, though?

 

 

I have to disagree on that maruten.

I enjoyed Snyders MoS despite its flaws.

Kellys WW comes across a self-righteous psycho who will torture and beatdown anyone who gets in her way because she is in the right. The police are incompetant, the media adores her and believes she can do no wrong. Plus she has three seperate identities.

 

Agreed. it was basically Frank Miller's version of Wonder Woman, except, y'know, the 'being a prostitute' part. "Pants to be darkened!" :D


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:08 AM

What about Arrow makes you think Batman isn't active yet? There's nothing in-show that leans one way or the other barring that brief blink and you'll miss it Harley Quinn in the Suicide Squad episode.

Having Supergirl arrive before Superman. Wouldn't that just create more headaches for the DC universe on screen? I mean, you'd end up giving her a very Superman ish evolution as she gets raised to be good while discovering her powers and making her superhero identity right? Rather than have him be the mentor who shows her the ropes.

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:52 AM

Just common logic. Cops would mention that "now we have a nutter vigilante like Gotham does" and "at least ours dresses as Robin Hood and not as Dracula". :D It's what'd happen.



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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:55 AM

thanks for giving a comprehensive breakdown of the three! Having read iconic stories featuring them but not the whole DC run, I never understood why there were so many origins for her - I thought she ALWAYS was Supes' cousin, like in TAS, since that made the most sense. I remember seeing her as an angel in the Emperor Joker story and not knowing what the heck that was... or seeing her seemingly just being introduced in the Superman-Batman Public Enemies spinoff as if she was a new character. (Never understood whether those stories were canon or not, 'cause they seem to contradict prior events as much as the new 52 reboot did). What does PAD stand for, though?

 

Well before Crisis she always was Superman's cousin. What happened is with the post-Crisis reinvention of Superman one of DC's big points was that he be the ONLY survivor of Krypton. So when they eventually got around to wanting to use Supergirl they had to create one that was non-kryptonian. That lead to a weird and rather convoluted origin for Matrix-Supergirl. Then many years later when that version of the character had kinda run its boring course PAD reinvented her in his new series by merging her with Linda and adding the Supernatural/Angel stuff. This was a great series but the merging took the already complicated and counter intuitive Matrix origin and added a complicated supernatural layer of separate complication.

 

And then one day a DC exec. (was it Dido? I don't recall) rode a DC theme park ride that had everybody's origin illustrated in a panel or two on the wall and realized that Supergirl's origin of the time was a huge mess that you could never explain well in an iconic image or two like that and decided that had to be fixed. So they got rid of the previous Supergirl (I forget how) and reintroduced Kara as if she were a new concept.

 

 

Anyway PAD is Peter (Aaron) David a popular comic writer best known for long runs on The Incredible Hulk, Aquaman, and X-factor among other books and a big swath of Star Trek novels.

 

 

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 09:14 AM

Harley means that Batman kinda has to exist in the Arrowverse, since Harley requires the Joker to both (A) exist and (B) have been sent to Arkham at least once. It might be early enough in his career that people still think he's an urban legend, though.

And Kara doesn't need Superman as much as you'd think: unlike Kal-El, she was old enough to be active on Krypton, so the bulk of her education could've happened there.

This doesn't even need to be in the Arrowverse; they could skip ahead to when Superman is already well-established and have Supergirl as his apprentice (having to struggle with all the things he's already mastered), leaving Clark as a supporting character.

Hell, they could even do a "Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes" thing and have this series take place in the far future.

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 05:16 PM

It can be like the New 52. Batman was the first costumed hero. He existed for about 5 years before Superman but was considered a myth.


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:24 PM

"It can be like the new 52" is not really a phrase I want DC to have echoing in their heads.

 

 

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 11:38 AM

Plus, as far as Batman, they can only mention him in show if allowed to be the higher ups. I think.

Good points on Supergirl. I didn't think of it that way. I'm kindof showing my lack of Supergirl comic knowledge again.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:57 PM


And apparently this just got a series order from CBS. Not a pilot order, but a full series order, which apparently means it's pretty much a lock to air.


-ZacWilliam, weird. I would have pegged this as the series least likely to go forward...
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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:16 PM

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 04:03 PM

No, "NCSI: Argo City"

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 04:18 PM

No, "NCSI: Argo City"

"NCSI"?


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Posted 19 September 2014 - 09:59 PM

Ncis + csi

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:25 PM

And apparently this just got a series order from CBS. Not a pilot order, but a full series order, which apparently means it's pretty much a lock to air.

 

 

Are there are actually going to end up being DC comics-based shows on every US broadcast network? CW has Arrow and Flash, Fox has Gotham, NBC has Constantine, and now this one on CBS. 

 

Although I guess ABC being owned by Disney means they're probably not going to get one of their own, huh? 


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