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@  Evac : (30 March 2017 - 03:18 PM)

Because that line always cracks me up.

@  Evac : (30 March 2017 - 03:18 PM)

Does she at least say "AAAAAAAH! AFTER TEN THOUSAND YEARS, I'M FREE! IT'S TIME TO CONQUER EARTH!"

@  Evac : (30 March 2017 - 03:16 PM)

Well, at least Rita's still over-the-top, then...

@  MEDdMI : (30 March 2017 - 03:01 PM)

My friend said it tried to be inspiring and serious, but Rita was too campy and some of the messages might not be good for kids.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (30 March 2017 - 02:27 PM)

Anyone been to the theater to see Power Rangers? How is it?

@  Evac : (30 March 2017 - 02:24 PM)

Meh, even if it was a real continuation it wouldn't be the same without Tony Jay.

@  Rycochet : (30 March 2017 - 02:05 PM)

I don't want to see it be a trainwreck and crash and burn, because if it does that's probably it for ReBoot in any form for another decade or even longer. I'm just frustrated as ReBoot is one of the few things I like as much as Transformers.

@  Boomhauer : (30 March 2017 - 01:50 PM)

Fun fact: one of the actors for the main kids lied on his resume that he knew how to skate. He actualy doesn't. They had to choose between reshooting all his scenes with somebody else, getting a stunt or... just not having him skate at all.

@  Boomhauer : (30 March 2017 - 01:49 PM)

A close friend of mine has been working on that show for almost a year now. He's told me lots of things that filled me with excitement about how baffled the internet will be about it. It's gonna be a great trainwreck.

@  Rycochet : (30 March 2017 - 12:37 PM)

Given all the advancements in computing since the end of the original series, how they've spread through every facet of our lives they could tell some great stories within the existing ReBoot universe... Instead they're going for Power Rangers meets Tron.

@  Evac : (30 March 2017 - 12:21 PM)

That's... That's not ReBoot. That's... That's a bad Tron rip-off.

@  Rycochet : (30 March 2017 - 12:18 PM)

Well, the ReBoot revival sounds positively dire.

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 March 2017 - 01:58 AM)

Interior decorating by Ed Gein.

@  Telly : (29 March 2017 - 06:23 PM)

they make for good hat/coat racks in random places

@  Waspinator : (29 March 2017 - 06:10 PM)

I use antlers in all of my decorating!

@  Locoman : (29 March 2017 - 06:08 PM)

Evil?! Eeevil?! Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeviiiiiiil!

@  Rycochet : (29 March 2017 - 03:43 PM)

Love Love, Peace Peace.

@  TheMightyMol... : (29 March 2017 - 03:38 PM)

DEATH, DEATH, DEVIL DEVIL DEVIL DEVIL, EVIL EVIL EVIL EVIL SONGS

@  MEDdMI : (29 March 2017 - 03:07 PM)

BE A MAAAAAANNNNNN

@  PlutoniumBoss : (29 March 2017 - 02:48 PM)

Young man, there's no need to feel down.

@  Waspinator : (29 March 2017 - 02:38 PM)

Me, an alien? Is this one of your Earth jokes?

@  Evac : (29 March 2017 - 02:28 PM)

WHEN I WAS A YOUNG WARTHOOOOOOOOOOOG

@  Rycochet : (29 March 2017 - 11:27 AM)

And it don't take money, don't take fame, don't need no credit card to ride this train.

@  Dracula : (29 March 2017 - 09:30 AM)

When I was a young boy, I had to fight King Garamoth for dominion of Earth

@  OrionPax44 : (29 March 2017 - 09:00 AM)

Wouldn't it be cheaper just to have her mailed to you?

@  ▲ndrusi : (29 March 2017 - 07:59 AM)

When I was a young boy, my father took me into Tahiti to see a marching band.

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 03:32 PM)

When I was a young boy,my father said to me; 'There's only one girl in the world for you, and she probably lives in Tahiti.'

@  Lightbright : (28 March 2017 - 03:26 PM)

It's a magical place :)

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 02:20 PM)

They were all in Tahiti that day, oh, and those days too, but they totally know someone who was there.

@  Broadside : (28 March 2017 - 01:37 PM)

Supposedly one of Mainframe's friends died during AHM, so presumably they were THERE, just, like, off-panel.

@  Verity Carlo : (28 March 2017 - 12:12 PM)

Additionally, Skywatch was rushed; it took them 23 years to learn how to control Ravage and Laserbeak, and they didn't even have a year to try and get the Dynobots under control.

@  Verity Carlo : (28 March 2017 - 11:58 AM)

Presumably dealing with other problems-The military was already routed to NYC before the blackout. And a counter terrorism unit is not something you have deal with an alien menace-it was Skywatch's purview, and even then, their problems started occurring only a year after Joes formation.

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 11:57 AM)

I think the only way I would buy a Gi-Joe comic would be if they were paired up with the monsterbots.

@  Evac : (28 March 2017 - 11:55 AM)

Nah, the Monsterbots had that covered.

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 11:43 AM)

Where were they when poop was hitting the fan with the Machination? You've got giant robot monsters battling in the open with an army of human controlled robot weapons... Maaaaybe that's the kind of thing they should have intervened in given how Skywatch failed.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 March 2017 - 11:37 AM)

There was a major coordinated military presence outside New York during AHM. Where was the elite special task force?

@  Verity Carlo : (28 March 2017 - 11:24 AM)

Well there was also Soundwave disrupting all communications so no one could coordinate and also Starscream killed the President, and everyone else on Air Force One, who were probably some of the few who actually knew about their existence

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 11:21 AM)

If your country is being torn apart by aliens, you use every tool at your disposal and two years before AHM still puts them in existance around the time of the Machination who were very much the kind of problem they should have been dealing with.

@  Verity Carlo : (28 March 2017 - 11:10 AM)

IDW Joe was a top secret anti-terrorism unit made up of specialists. Not really "repelling an invasion force" material, plus they were formed two years before AHM

@  unluckiness : (28 March 2017 - 10:58 AM)

The Avengers were all Skrulls or something at the time

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 March 2017 - 10:45 AM)

It happened just like Spidey and SHIELD turned up in the original G1 comics.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 March 2017 - 10:35 AM)

I try to forget that Avengers thing ever happened. I mean, aside from a throwaway line in Spotlight: Ramjet, it never comes up again anyway.

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 10:29 AM)

They would have been #1 on the Presidents speed dial to deal with the problems caused by Skywatch losing control of the Transformers in their care.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 March 2017 - 10:28 AM)

Don't forget the Avengers. Megatron must have culled metahumans before AHM. Picture him personally tearing Spider-man in two.

@  TheMightyMol... : (28 March 2017 - 10:18 AM)

You'd think they would've intervened the time Megatron took over New York.

@  Rycochet : (28 March 2017 - 08:25 AM)

I really don't care for Gi-Joe being retconned into sharing the same universe as Transformers, There have been too many Joe free events in America for them to have existed all along.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 March 2017 - 07:53 AM)

And now he gets to be a member of hugging G.I. Joe.

@  unluckiness : (28 March 2017 - 06:46 AM)

I don't think anyone was ever supposed to like him

@  Broadside : (28 March 2017 - 06:36 AM)

To be fair, Costa at least had the self-awareness to turn Spike into a villain when he realised that nobody liked him.

@  Jalaguy : (28 March 2017 - 05:17 AM)

And the "lol idgaf" approach to making itself part of the existing universe is stupid. They could have pivoted to be more G1-cartoon-y without throwing so much worldbuilding out the window for no reason.


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Posted 07 September 2014 - 04:28 PM

Well, there are advantages/disadvantages to each origin:

Supergirl I: an attempt at a clone of Superman, created from the Kryptonian birthing matrix that carried him to Earth (thus her nickname, "Mae," from "Matrix"). Problem: this requires the Post-Crisis origin (no mere rocket ship), though I guess Kal-El carrying the Kryptonian gene-MacGuffin could be used instead. The question would be how to extract it from him (or he might create Supergirl himself since he obviously finds no companionship from humans).

Supergirl II (PAD's run): Matrix-Supergirl merged with a dying human girl (Linda Danvers), and became an Earth-Born Angel. Problem: draws heavily on supernatural themes (which might make a cool crossover with Constantine, admittedly), and requires Mae to have existed (though, if they use Constantine as an in, they could sidestep the Matrix entirely and have "Supergirl" as a cosmic entity that possesses Linda).

Supergirl III: Kara Zor-El, Kal-El's cousin. This is the "iconic" Supergirl, but it naturally carries the question of "where's Superman?" The trouble here would be the choice between trying to fit it into the pre-existing Snyderverse or doing a "soft reboot" which might confuse the idiots in the audience ("so, there's a Superman, but he's not Superman? What was the movie for?" --see how people are scratching their heads over Arrow being connected to MoS being connected to the Nolan Batman movies :rolleyes ).

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:06 PM

I personally hope for the Kara Zor-El version or something like it.


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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:15 PM

On the one hand I think PAD's run is probably easily the best written run on the character ever, but yeah stories are sadly predicated on the least accessible version of the character. And Kara is easily the simplest, most well known, and most iconic version of her. "Superman's younger cousin' is really what Supergirl should always be.

 

 

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:32 PM

If it ends up being some wretched teen drama, as surely it will, the cover of PAD's first issue would be a great foundation for promo images.

 

 

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:24 PM

Be nice if this could become CW's new Buffy.

Big shoes to fill, but that's not a bad formula.

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:54 PM

 

What do I think about this?  I say we better hope this does not become another horrible teen drama.  If it's like Smallville, I will live with that, but I will not tolerate a Supergirl show that pretends to be like Sabrina The Teenage Witch.

 

I don't think being like Sabrina would be a huge problem -- DC could use something fun and accessible that isn't angsty and broody (which I don't recall Sabrina being, but I never did see a lot of it). But on the whole, if we're looking for something to pattern it after, I guess a toned-down Buffy would be pretty cool. 

 

And yup. As much as I liked PAD's Supergirl era, I agree with Zac in that applying its storytelling strengths to the classic/iconic/simplest character iteration would be the way to go.

 

Just... let this be fun, guys, please.



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Posted 09 September 2014 - 04:47 AM

Hmmm, as long as it is nothing like Smallville... I would probably check it out. Arrow and Flash are stand-alone heroes who make sense in their private universe/city, but Supergirl doesn't really work without establishing Superman first.

However, I doubt they would use the movie universe... or Smallville. They will maybe even make the GASP-inducing choice to have Supergirl arrive and be active on Earth BEFORE Superman. I mean, based on what we saw from Arrow, Batman certainly doesn't exist yet, so Ollie did the whole vigilante thing first.

 

Cybersnark - thanks for giving a comprehensive breakdown of the three! Having read iconic stories featuring them but not the whole DC run, I never understood why there were so many origins for her - I thought she ALWAYS was Supes' cousin, like in TAS, since that made the most sense. I remember seeing her as an angel in the Emperor Joker story and not knowing what the heck that was... or seeing her seemingly just being introduced in the Superman-Batman Public Enemies spinoff as if she was a new character. (Never understood whether those stories were canon or not, 'cause they seem to contradict prior events as much as the new 52 reboot did). What does PAD stand for, though?

 

 

I have to disagree on that maruten.

I enjoyed Snyders MoS despite its flaws.

Kellys WW comes across a self-righteous psycho who will torture and beatdown anyone who gets in her way because she is in the right. The police are incompetant, the media adores her and believes she can do no wrong. Plus she has three seperate identities.

 

Agreed. it was basically Frank Miller's version of Wonder Woman, except, y'know, the 'being a prostitute' part. "Pants to be darkened!" :D


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:08 AM

What about Arrow makes you think Batman isn't active yet? There's nothing in-show that leans one way or the other barring that brief blink and you'll miss it Harley Quinn in the Suicide Squad episode.

Having Supergirl arrive before Superman. Wouldn't that just create more headaches for the DC universe on screen? I mean, you'd end up giving her a very Superman ish evolution as she gets raised to be good while discovering her powers and making her superhero identity right? Rather than have him be the mentor who shows her the ropes.

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:52 AM

Just common logic. Cops would mention that "now we have a nutter vigilante like Gotham does" and "at least ours dresses as Robin Hood and not as Dracula". :D It's what'd happen.



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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:55 AM

thanks for giving a comprehensive breakdown of the three! Having read iconic stories featuring them but not the whole DC run, I never understood why there were so many origins for her - I thought she ALWAYS was Supes' cousin, like in TAS, since that made the most sense. I remember seeing her as an angel in the Emperor Joker story and not knowing what the heck that was... or seeing her seemingly just being introduced in the Superman-Batman Public Enemies spinoff as if she was a new character. (Never understood whether those stories were canon or not, 'cause they seem to contradict prior events as much as the new 52 reboot did). What does PAD stand for, though?

 

Well before Crisis she always was Superman's cousin. What happened is with the post-Crisis reinvention of Superman one of DC's big points was that he be the ONLY survivor of Krypton. So when they eventually got around to wanting to use Supergirl they had to create one that was non-kryptonian. That lead to a weird and rather convoluted origin for Matrix-Supergirl. Then many years later when that version of the character had kinda run its boring course PAD reinvented her in his new series by merging her with Linda and adding the Supernatural/Angel stuff. This was a great series but the merging took the already complicated and counter intuitive Matrix origin and added a complicated supernatural layer of separate complication.

 

And then one day a DC exec. (was it Dido? I don't recall) rode a DC theme park ride that had everybody's origin illustrated in a panel or two on the wall and realized that Supergirl's origin of the time was a huge mess that you could never explain well in an iconic image or two like that and decided that had to be fixed. So they got rid of the previous Supergirl (I forget how) and reintroduced Kara as if she were a new concept.

 

 

Anyway PAD is Peter (Aaron) David a popular comic writer best known for long runs on The Incredible Hulk, Aquaman, and X-factor among other books and a big swath of Star Trek novels.

 

 

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 09:14 AM

Harley means that Batman kinda has to exist in the Arrowverse, since Harley requires the Joker to both (A) exist and (B) have been sent to Arkham at least once. It might be early enough in his career that people still think he's an urban legend, though.

And Kara doesn't need Superman as much as you'd think: unlike Kal-El, she was old enough to be active on Krypton, so the bulk of her education could've happened there.

This doesn't even need to be in the Arrowverse; they could skip ahead to when Superman is already well-established and have Supergirl as his apprentice (having to struggle with all the things he's already mastered), leaving Clark as a supporting character.

Hell, they could even do a "Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes" thing and have this series take place in the far future.

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 05:16 PM

It can be like the New 52. Batman was the first costumed hero. He existed for about 5 years before Superman but was considered a myth.


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:24 PM

"It can be like the new 52" is not really a phrase I want DC to have echoing in their heads.

 

 

-ZacWilliam, I mean I'm sure it could but...


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Posted 10 September 2014 - 11:38 AM

Plus, as far as Batman, they can only mention him in show if allowed to be the higher ups. I think.

Good points on Supergirl. I didn't think of it that way. I'm kindof showing my lack of Supergirl comic knowledge again.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:57 PM


And apparently this just got a series order from CBS. Not a pilot order, but a full series order, which apparently means it's pretty much a lock to air.


-ZacWilliam, weird. I would have pegged this as the series least likely to go forward...
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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:16 PM

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 04:03 PM

No, "NCSI: Argo City"

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 04:18 PM

No, "NCSI: Argo City"

"NCSI"?


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Posted 19 September 2014 - 09:59 PM

Ncis + csi

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:25 PM

And apparently this just got a series order from CBS. Not a pilot order, but a full series order, which apparently means it's pretty much a lock to air.

 

 

Are there are actually going to end up being DC comics-based shows on every US broadcast network? CW has Arrow and Flash, Fox has Gotham, NBC has Constantine, and now this one on CBS. 

 

Although I guess ABC being owned by Disney means they're probably not going to get one of their own, huh? 


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