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@  Boomhauer : (20 November 2017 - 09:08 AM)

The best moment of the Emu War is when they brought machine guns to shoot at large groups of birds and at no point a single person in the room brought up "wait but emus are fast won't they just dodge and-"

@  Pennpenn : (20 November 2017 - 04:53 AM)

Yeah yeah, giant spiders. Look up the Great Emu War of the 1920s for instances of Australia trying to defeat it's wildlife and failing miserably.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 November 2017 - 03:41 AM)

Australia is still fighting their war on Giant Spiders.

@  Pennpenn : (20 November 2017 - 01:58 AM)

The queue is pretty long, and I don't think Australia is going anywhere any time soon.

@  Locoman : (19 November 2017 - 10:59 PM)

Welcome to the "political crisis" queue, here's your ticket.

@  Nevermore : (19 November 2017 - 10:20 PM)

Complicated lengthy coalition talks just failed.

@  Nevermore : (19 November 2017 - 10:20 PM)

Oh boy. Germany is in a political crisis.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 November 2017 - 01:25 PM)

I could handle going back to not existing. x.x;

@  Bass X0 : (19 November 2017 - 01:14 PM)

Life is the brief recess we get from not existing before going back to not existing.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (19 November 2017 - 01:10 PM)

Nah.. Life is simply the precursor to death.

@  Bass X0 : (19 November 2017 - 12:41 PM)

Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it.

@  wonko the sane? : (18 November 2017 - 08:37 AM)

You won't be at school or work anymore... so mitigated success.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 November 2017 - 05:21 PM)

Just don't try to plug yourself into an outlet. It won't end well.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2017 - 04:57 PM)

Trying to stay awake at work or school is a lot like using your controller when it's on low battery

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:31 AM)

If you're used to doing it with tabs, that makes sense. It doesn't feel weird for me.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:28 AM)

Also, it just feels weird if switching between webpages uses the same actions as switching between programs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:21 AM)

I switch between different things on the browser and click on various plugins and stuff far more often than switching from program to program.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:19 AM)

Yeah I'm mostly just venting from frustration rather than trying to convince anyone, though @NotVeryNightly I will point out that the windows for the other programs I'm running are at the bottom of the screen as well.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM)

Tabs are on the top, near the address bar, browser tools, plugins and whatnot so the cursor will be there frequently anyway. Switching windows would require going down the screen.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 10:03 AM)

I mean, you do you. No bigs. You've just got a fairly unique stance that surprised me.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 09:54 AM)

I haven't seen words on the bottom bar of the screen since XP.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:13 AM)

All of which is put on the point that I don't care if people want to use tabs, I just want the option to not have them present for me on my browser.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:12 AM)

@Shrug- A quick glance at the bottom of the screen shows me what is open and where. Load times are basically so trivial that the load indicator on a tab is something I didn't notice until you mentioned it. The "which instance is playing noise" is a fair point but has basically only really been approaching meaningful for me maybe twice in all the time tabs have existed.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:07 AM)

@NotveryKnightly- I have never encountered a situation where that is true, especially given that tabs are on the other side of the screen to the other things I'm switching through.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:06 AM)

@ Nevermore- The windows at the bottom have the names of the websites on them, presuming you don't collapse them.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:08 AM)

Geez, this is reminding me of the awful pre-tab days.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

I can look at the tab to see if it hasn't finished loading yet. Now you can see which tab is playing sound, so no need to hunt through windows to find a video ad that started playing.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And a quick glance lets me know whats open and where. No clicking multiple windows hunting for something. No waiting for some window preview to pop up (which wasn't available when tabs first started.)

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 06:03 AM)

Switching between tabs is way quicker than between windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:09 AM)

It's like having a clear structore with sub-directores, instead of just having all files on your computer stored in one giant directory.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:08 AM)

This way, I can switch between windows and then select the tab, instead of always trying to remember which window is for which website.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:07 AM)

I find one browser window with multiple tabs a lot easier to handle alongside other windows than multiple browser windows alongside other windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

I find multiple tabs a lot more comfortable than multiple windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

erm... no?

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 03:26 AM)

On mobile devices and whatever I understand why tabs would be a thing, but on a full desktop browser it's just- "Hey, here's a thing that's kind of like opening a new window, but objectively worse in every practical way"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 November 2017 - 01:41 AM)

Someone remind me again: which versions of the CW Hot Spot mold did not suffer from bad hip ratcheting?

@  BlackMax : (16 November 2017 - 06:33 PM)

Holy crap I just pushed the F11 key for the first time on a keyboard since about 1994.

@  Shrug : (16 November 2017 - 01:11 PM)

tabs being wretched bs is definitely an opinion I've never seen before

@  RC85747 : (16 November 2017 - 08:25 AM)

Vivaldi lets you hide the tab bar

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 07:45 AM)

Yeah but that gets rid of everything else as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 November 2017 - 07:33 AM)

Hit F11 Pennpenn

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:15 AM)

I get that people like tabs. Fine. Whatever. I just detest the fact that most current browsers don't let you have the option of just hiding the bar away so I don't have to even think about the wretched bullshit things.

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

Does anyone know of a browser that doesn't force tabs on you? Just... any sodding browser that doesn't have tabs.

@  Telly : (16 November 2017 - 01:59 AM)

being mostly wrong is better than being TOTALLY wrong!

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 09:26 PM)

ALL HAIL THE BLESSED OCTOBUTT.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 08:24 PM)

I really hope so. All of my high school drawings and notes (Hand-written notes! God, I'm old.) from girls are in a chest in the attic of my parents house. I'll check when I visit!

@  MEDdMI : (15 November 2017 - 06:39 PM)

Do you still have those drawings?

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 06:31 PM)

I think lesbian ninjas is just an unmitigated good idea. *shrug*

@  Devcon : (15 November 2017 - 05:56 PM)

well, that and Balloon Doggies, Mr secretary

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:12 PM)

It's my crowning Allspark achievement! You're welcome.


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#21 Cybersnark

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 04:28 PM

Well, there are advantages/disadvantages to each origin:

Supergirl I: an attempt at a clone of Superman, created from the Kryptonian birthing matrix that carried him to Earth (thus her nickname, "Mae," from "Matrix"). Problem: this requires the Post-Crisis origin (no mere rocket ship), though I guess Kal-El carrying the Kryptonian gene-MacGuffin could be used instead. The question would be how to extract it from him (or he might create Supergirl himself since he obviously finds no companionship from humans).

Supergirl II (PAD's run): Matrix-Supergirl merged with a dying human girl (Linda Danvers), and became an Earth-Born Angel. Problem: draws heavily on supernatural themes (which might make a cool crossover with Constantine, admittedly), and requires Mae to have existed (though, if they use Constantine as an in, they could sidestep the Matrix entirely and have "Supergirl" as a cosmic entity that possesses Linda).

Supergirl III: Kara Zor-El, Kal-El's cousin. This is the "iconic" Supergirl, but it naturally carries the question of "where's Superman?" The trouble here would be the choice between trying to fit it into the pre-existing Snyderverse or doing a "soft reboot" which might confuse the idiots in the audience ("so, there's a Superman, but he's not Superman? What was the movie for?" --see how people are scratching their heads over Arrow being connected to MoS being connected to the Nolan Batman movies :rolleyes ).

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:06 PM

I personally hope for the Kara Zor-El version or something like it.


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Posted 07 September 2014 - 07:15 PM

On the one hand I think PAD's run is probably easily the best written run on the character ever, but yeah stories are sadly predicated on the least accessible version of the character. And Kara is easily the simplest, most well known, and most iconic version of her. "Superman's younger cousin' is really what Supergirl should always be.

 

 

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:32 PM

If it ends up being some wretched teen drama, as surely it will, the cover of PAD's first issue would be a great foundation for promo images.

 

 

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 10:24 PM

Be nice if this could become CW's new Buffy.

Big shoes to fill, but that's not a bad formula.

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 11:54 PM

 

What do I think about this?  I say we better hope this does not become another horrible teen drama.  If it's like Smallville, I will live with that, but I will not tolerate a Supergirl show that pretends to be like Sabrina The Teenage Witch.

 

I don't think being like Sabrina would be a huge problem -- DC could use something fun and accessible that isn't angsty and broody (which I don't recall Sabrina being, but I never did see a lot of it). But on the whole, if we're looking for something to pattern it after, I guess a toned-down Buffy would be pretty cool. 

 

And yup. As much as I liked PAD's Supergirl era, I agree with Zac in that applying its storytelling strengths to the classic/iconic/simplest character iteration would be the way to go.

 

Just... let this be fun, guys, please.



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Posted 09 September 2014 - 04:47 AM

Hmmm, as long as it is nothing like Smallville... I would probably check it out. Arrow and Flash are stand-alone heroes who make sense in their private universe/city, but Supergirl doesn't really work without establishing Superman first.

However, I doubt they would use the movie universe... or Smallville. They will maybe even make the GASP-inducing choice to have Supergirl arrive and be active on Earth BEFORE Superman. I mean, based on what we saw from Arrow, Batman certainly doesn't exist yet, so Ollie did the whole vigilante thing first.

 

Cybersnark - thanks for giving a comprehensive breakdown of the three! Having read iconic stories featuring them but not the whole DC run, I never understood why there were so many origins for her - I thought she ALWAYS was Supes' cousin, like in TAS, since that made the most sense. I remember seeing her as an angel in the Emperor Joker story and not knowing what the heck that was... or seeing her seemingly just being introduced in the Superman-Batman Public Enemies spinoff as if she was a new character. (Never understood whether those stories were canon or not, 'cause they seem to contradict prior events as much as the new 52 reboot did). What does PAD stand for, though?

 

 

I have to disagree on that maruten.

I enjoyed Snyders MoS despite its flaws.

Kellys WW comes across a self-righteous psycho who will torture and beatdown anyone who gets in her way because she is in the right. The police are incompetant, the media adores her and believes she can do no wrong. Plus she has three seperate identities.

 

Agreed. it was basically Frank Miller's version of Wonder Woman, except, y'know, the 'being a prostitute' part. "Pants to be darkened!" :D


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:08 AM

What about Arrow makes you think Batman isn't active yet? There's nothing in-show that leans one way or the other barring that brief blink and you'll miss it Harley Quinn in the Suicide Squad episode.

Having Supergirl arrive before Superman. Wouldn't that just create more headaches for the DC universe on screen? I mean, you'd end up giving her a very Superman ish evolution as she gets raised to be good while discovering her powers and making her superhero identity right? Rather than have him be the mentor who shows her the ropes.

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:52 AM

Just common logic. Cops would mention that "now we have a nutter vigilante like Gotham does" and "at least ours dresses as Robin Hood and not as Dracula". :D It's what'd happen.



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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:55 AM

thanks for giving a comprehensive breakdown of the three! Having read iconic stories featuring them but not the whole DC run, I never understood why there were so many origins for her - I thought she ALWAYS was Supes' cousin, like in TAS, since that made the most sense. I remember seeing her as an angel in the Emperor Joker story and not knowing what the heck that was... or seeing her seemingly just being introduced in the Superman-Batman Public Enemies spinoff as if she was a new character. (Never understood whether those stories were canon or not, 'cause they seem to contradict prior events as much as the new 52 reboot did). What does PAD stand for, though?

 

Well before Crisis she always was Superman's cousin. What happened is with the post-Crisis reinvention of Superman one of DC's big points was that he be the ONLY survivor of Krypton. So when they eventually got around to wanting to use Supergirl they had to create one that was non-kryptonian. That lead to a weird and rather convoluted origin for Matrix-Supergirl. Then many years later when that version of the character had kinda run its boring course PAD reinvented her in his new series by merging her with Linda and adding the Supernatural/Angel stuff. This was a great series but the merging took the already complicated and counter intuitive Matrix origin and added a complicated supernatural layer of separate complication.

 

And then one day a DC exec. (was it Dido? I don't recall) rode a DC theme park ride that had everybody's origin illustrated in a panel or two on the wall and realized that Supergirl's origin of the time was a huge mess that you could never explain well in an iconic image or two like that and decided that had to be fixed. So they got rid of the previous Supergirl (I forget how) and reintroduced Kara as if she were a new concept.

 

 

Anyway PAD is Peter (Aaron) David a popular comic writer best known for long runs on The Incredible Hulk, Aquaman, and X-factor among other books and a big swath of Star Trek novels.

 

 

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 09:14 AM

Harley means that Batman kinda has to exist in the Arrowverse, since Harley requires the Joker to both (A) exist and (B) have been sent to Arkham at least once. It might be early enough in his career that people still think he's an urban legend, though.

And Kara doesn't need Superman as much as you'd think: unlike Kal-El, she was old enough to be active on Krypton, so the bulk of her education could've happened there.

This doesn't even need to be in the Arrowverse; they could skip ahead to when Superman is already well-established and have Supergirl as his apprentice (having to struggle with all the things he's already mastered), leaving Clark as a supporting character.

Hell, they could even do a "Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes" thing and have this series take place in the far future.

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 05:16 PM

It can be like the New 52. Batman was the first costumed hero. He existed for about 5 years before Superman but was considered a myth.


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Posted 09 September 2014 - 06:24 PM

"It can be like the new 52" is not really a phrase I want DC to have echoing in their heads.

 

 

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Posted 10 September 2014 - 11:38 AM

Plus, as far as Batman, they can only mention him in show if allowed to be the higher ups. I think.

Good points on Supergirl. I didn't think of it that way. I'm kindof showing my lack of Supergirl comic knowledge again.

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:57 PM


And apparently this just got a series order from CBS. Not a pilot order, but a full series order, which apparently means it's pretty much a lock to air.


-ZacWilliam, weird. I would have pegged this as the series least likely to go forward...
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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:16 PM

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 04:03 PM

No, "NCSI: Argo City"

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 04:18 PM

No, "NCSI: Argo City"

"NCSI"?


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Posted 19 September 2014 - 09:59 PM

Ncis + csi

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:25 PM

And apparently this just got a series order from CBS. Not a pilot order, but a full series order, which apparently means it's pretty much a lock to air.

 

 

Are there are actually going to end up being DC comics-based shows on every US broadcast network? CW has Arrow and Flash, Fox has Gotham, NBC has Constantine, and now this one on CBS. 

 

Although I guess ABC being owned by Disney means they're probably not going to get one of their own, huh? 





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