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@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:15 AM)

I really enjoy the creative sub forums of TFW, though, like their kitbash and fan art forums. The creative forums have lots of talented, friendly people and is an active, supportive community.

@  wlg3 : (28 April 2017 - 01:13 AM)

Gotta agree with Evac... TFW has a lot of cool, talented people, but they're overwhelmingly outnumbered by unbearable neckbeards

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:20 PM)

I do enjoy the TFW podcast. and that subforum's usually very civil. It's the best place to actually talk about TFers there :D also the Radicons forum is ok if you just like looking at kitbash pr0n

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 PM)

There's some cool people on the site, thankfully. It's just the morons tend to outnumber them... Which is generally the rule on most forums thanks to the GIFT.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:17 PM)

In all honesty, the better parts of the site are the non-TF parts.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

yeah, and their love of 3p is just...i don't get it.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:03 PM)

TFW can be... literal with the rules sometimes. Like, a discussion about favorite human characters gets LOCKED if you mention Agent Fowler because "all Prime discussion belongs in the RiD forums".

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:48 PM)

Also, as far as TFW's No Politics goes...it's nice in theory but then you end up with the current IDW stories that lean HEAVILY into politics and religion. I've had more than a few lengthy posts exploring the parallels between the IDW Decepticon movement and various real world socialist movements deleted because it was technically "politics." So hug 'em. I really only visit there these days to poke around the podcast subforum.

@  LordGigaIce : (27 April 2017 - 09:45 PM)

My person canon is that the Quintessons created Cybertron as a factory to make the TFers as mechs, but they became self aware and they revolted. then Cybertronian society began to develop and the events of the revolt became mythologised as the stories of the Knights of Cyberton, the Thirteen, etc...real events that became the basis for religion, essentially.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 09:34 PM)

Timeout. Does it convert?

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

.... Wait I think those are actually ninjas

@  Nutjob R/T : (27 April 2017 - 09:29 PM)

Fact: Transformers are mammals. Fact: The purpose of a Transformer is to flip out and kill people

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Transformers are alien space robots from space.]

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:49 PM)

Transformers believe they were created by <X>, others believe they were created by <Y> and/or <Z>. There are lots of theories, disagreements but ultimately nobody knows for sure.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 05:11 PM)

Squid robits build machines. Machines decide they had enough of that and kicked the squid robits off the planet. Everything's pretty chill for a while until machines get mad for dumb reasons and break the planet. THE END

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 04:22 PM)

Primus created Cybertron and The Thirteen. Then later, the Quintessons come to the planet they call Seibertron and use Primus' power; the plasma energy chamber to forge military robots Destrons and consumer robots Cybertrons. The Cybertrons and Destrons rise up and drive the Quintessons away but are unable to live in peace with each other. And so the Cybertron population become the Autobot army and the Destrons become Decepticons, with the Autobots renaming their planet Cybertron. Far far later still, bacteria that was present on the asteroid Primus imprisoned himself within has evolved into organic life within Cybertron...

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:35 PM)

But aside from the ending Trent and Siph made for them at FunPub, the 3H Wreckers comics kinda sucked.

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 03:34 PM)

That's what the 3H Wreckers comics kind of did, actually.

@  wonko the sane? : (27 April 2017 - 03:30 PM)

So, what? The maker of the makers kinda thing?

@  Bass X0 : (27 April 2017 - 02:55 PM)

My fanon is both the Quintesson and Primus origins. They're compatible.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 02:37 PM)

I prefer the profile book/movie interpretation of the Quintessons, a race whose entire purpose is to capture and execute those who escape Unicron.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 02:03 PM)

I like the Quintesson origin partly because it's a twist on the robot revolution cliche, partly because of the irony of a people uniting against their own creators just to fall into endless civil war, and mostly because i just really like the Quintessons themselves.

@  Diecast : (27 April 2017 - 12:03 PM)

I preferred the Primus origin until it became the more common origin, fiction wise.

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 April 2017 - 11:08 AM)

Since the analogy to humans isn't perfect, it could also be interpreted as closer to "maternity ward."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

I think the most unfortunately named Transformer in their society would probably be Hot Spot, which is like having a human named "Placenta."

@  Locoman : (27 April 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Confusing, I bet.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:58 AM)

I wonder what everyday Transformer society is like where half the population are named after common objects and stuff...

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 April 2017 - 10:53 AM)

I bet Gears hates this.

@  Noideaforaname : (27 April 2017 - 10:18 AM)

Naturally occuring gears! (hey, if bugs can do it...)

@  Evac : (27 April 2017 - 10:00 AM)

They're both better than the Primus origin.

@  unluckiness : (27 April 2017 - 09:56 AM)

The Allspark sucks. I much prefer the quintessons origin.

@  Dracula : (27 April 2017 - 07:23 AM)

I hate the allspark! That's why it's been the only TF forum I've bothered with for almost 10 years!

@  Robowang : (27 April 2017 - 07:13 AM)

As much as I pick on us, that's a really big reason why I like it here too. Plus the traffic isn't so heavy that anything you post gets lost in five minutes.

@  Rycochet : (27 April 2017 - 06:00 AM)

The Allspark is one of the first Transformers sites I've been to where there's no weird hero worship of the staff or two or three staffers who are weirdly aggressive about certain transformers related topics and never fail to show it. This is probably the first site in my near two decades in the fandom I can post and not feel I'm a few steps away from falling afoul of some unwritten rule that will cause people to pile on, so yay Allspark.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 April 2017 - 05:31 AM)

*pops in* "Hm, I wonder where the conversation has gone since last night..." *reads* "...huh. I did not see any of that coming."

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

*apart!

@  MEDdMI : (27 April 2017 - 05:26 AM)

This board has provided me with the only RP campaign that didn't fall a

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 05:17 AM)

So what? We're disciples of Primus and they're disciples of Unicron?

@  lastmaximal : (27 April 2017 - 04:26 AM)

I'm really not surprised.

@  Nevermore : (27 April 2017 - 04:16 AM)

Well, the users over on TFW in return accuse the Allspark of being an elitist clique that ostracizes everyone who doesn't act like they do (i.e. civil), whereas TFW is more welcoming to everyone regardless of their views.

@  Pennpenn : (27 April 2017 - 03:23 AM)

Hard G. I don't give a solitary shit what the creators call it, the first word in the acronym is "Graphical". I have no idea why they'd think any sane human could, would, or should pronounce it any other way.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (27 April 2017 - 03:13 AM)

I acknowledge what the creators say, but whether I remember to use their pronunciation or not is hit or miss. Heck, I think I usually think of it in my head as "gee-i-ef", in parallel to "JPG" and "PNG".

@  Waspinator : (27 April 2017 - 02:50 AM)

Let's heat things up: what are everyone's opinions on how GIF should be pronounced?

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:11 PM)

But I will say that a lot of fandom forums are generally more tolerable nowadays because most belligerent types stick to Facebook groups

@  Diecast : (26 April 2017 - 11:09 PM)

I do like their hard no-politics rule. Now that I do the occasional freelance writing for some local politics and I like zero percent of it my hobby space now. But holy cow, do they replace it with neck beard drama.

@  LordGigaIce : (26 April 2017 - 10:30 PM)

like Noideaforaname I posted on TFW for a while. I came here after I got harassed for daring to suggest that Play With This Too was run by unoriginal hacks, and yeah. This place so much more preferable.

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

And you're turning us on

@  Nutjob R/T : (26 April 2017 - 10:15 PM)

The terrible secret of the Allspark: We all have this twisted fetish for rational thought processes

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:13 PM)

Not everyone likes everything, and people aren't blind to shortfalls or annoyances resulting from constraints of how the brand is handled. We make many a joke out of these things. But it's a rare thing when entitlement replaces logic on here, where that seems to be poster raison d'etre everywhere else.

@  lastmaximal : (26 April 2017 - 10:11 PM)

It's utterly weird how these here boards seem so impervious an oasis when it comes to that depth of idiocy. Worshipping 3p and demanding the official companies "step it up" and stop being so lazy? Insisting the movies be done THEIR way, crapping on every single thing revealed about the films or toyline, then whining that they can't find (insert hot movie to here) or the official release of a movie figure doesn't capture the look in the film they hated? Etc


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Posted 05 September 2014 - 02:55 AM

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On the heels of the success of Arrow and the strong buzz for its upcoming offshoot The Flash — both co-created and executive produced by Greg Berlanti — the top producer is looking to transition another popular DC superhero character to the small screen. I’ve learned that Berlanti has teamed with Ali Adler, who worked on his ABC series No Ordinary Family, for a TV series based on Supergirl. Warner Bros. TV, which is behind all DC TV series, will produce with Berlanti’s studio-based Berlanti Prods..

I hear the project, which is still in development, will be a new interpretation of the Supergirl character and her story. Adler will write the script and will executive produce with Berlanti Prods.’ Berlanti and Sarah Schechter. DC’s Geoff Johns, who has been involved in both Arrow and The Flash, is also expected to be part of the project but it is unclear at this time what his role will be. The Supergirl show doesn’t have a name yet. I hear the producers are considering several options that need to be cleared, including Super and Girl. The project is expected to be taken out in a couple of weeks and pitched to the major networks the way WBTV and DC did with their high profile Batman prequel Gotham, which landed at Fox with a big commitment. The Supergirl series had been in the works at WBTV for some time with Berlanti and Adler. Contrary to a report that was picked up by a number of outlets, Michael Green has had no involvement in the project.

The Supergirl character was created by writer Otto Binder and designed by artist Al Plastino in 1959. There had been several characters that had assumed the caped girl persona, most notably Superman’s cousin, Kara Zor-El, who shares his super powers and vulnerability to Kryptonite. There has been a push to get more female superhero characters in comic books and on the big and small screens. Marvel has a Jessica Jones series in pre-production at Netflix.

There will be four DC/WBTV series on the air this coming season, Gotham on Fox, the CW’s Arrow and The Flash on the CW and Constantine on NBC. In addition to Arrow and The Flash, Berlanti has new NBC crime dramedy The Mysteries Of Laura, and his company just sold conspiracy thriller Blindspot to NBC. Berlanti and Adler are repped by WME.

 

What do I think about this?  I say we better hope this does not become another horrible teen drama.  If it's like Smallville, I will live with that, but I will not tolerate a Supergirl show that pretends to be like Sabrina The Teenage Witch.

 

 


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Posted 05 September 2014 - 03:17 AM

Do it like Super Best Friends Forever! A little pre teen with a rebellious Super(little)girl who wedgies Superman! Hehe

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 04:53 AM

I haven't got around to watching Arrow yet (past the pilot) so I don't really know how well DC is doing on TV right now. But it's hard to be confident, because, y'know, DC.

Did they have to go Kryptonian? Pull an Arrow and give another sub-SuperBat character a turn. If I want to see Supergirl on TV I'll dig out my Smallville DVDs.

But best of luck to them! Unless it's dumb.

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 08:13 AM

Maybe they will base it off of the Supergirl movie from the 80's!



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Posted 05 September 2014 - 09:33 AM

I haven't got around to watching Arrow yet (past the pilot) so I don't really know how well DC is doing on TV right now. But it's hard to be confident, because, y'know, DC.

DC is doing amazing on TV.


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Posted 05 September 2014 - 11:34 AM

They are, but iam very hesitant to get my hopes up that the successful balancing act between the superheroics and everyday life done in Arrow (and hopefully in Flash too) can be done for Supergirl. I just have visions of the disaster that was Wonder Womans TV pilot. Or the Bionic Woman remake where all the hight tech heroics were buried in family sitcom dysfunction and angst.

Also, any Supergirl story has to have some level of Superman involvement, at least in the beginning. Which if the DC TV universe is in any way connected to their proposed movie universe, could be difficult.

If they can leearn from the success of Arrow while applying the lighter tone of The Flash, we could have the start of bringing DCs female superheroes to life.

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 12:51 PM

 I just have visions of the disaster that was Wonder Womans TV pilot.

To be fair, that was the fault of NBC, not CW.


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Posted 05 September 2014 - 04:02 PM

After MOS I'd be more interested in someone picking up the WW pilot than I am in BatMOS2. It was crazy, but at least it wasn't MOS.

I think we'll get a vague reference to a second Kryptonian in the Supergirl pilot and that will be it. Or maybe -- a running gag where she claims to be Superman's cousin and nobody believes her.

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 04:28 PM

People have called Arrow "the best Batman live action TV series without Batman", so I'm wondering if this could feel like "a Superman live action TV series without Superman".


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Posted 05 September 2014 - 05:44 PM

So...DC (well, technically WB) cancels Wonder Woman's series but then gears up to do a Supergirl TV series. Um DC? Maybe it's just me but there might be a reason why the general public doesn't know much about WW and doesn't give her much respect.
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Posted 05 September 2014 - 06:03 PM

I just have visions of the disaster that was Wonder Womans TV pilot.

To be fair, that was the fault of NBC, not CW.
Good point, i just hope CW looks at how Arrow is working. Why the NBC WW show failed and keeps up their good work.

People have called Arrow "the best Batman live action TV series without Batman", so I'm wondering if this could feel like "a Superman live action TV series without Superman".

All we can do is cross our fingers and keep our expectations reasonable.

Also maruten, go watch SFDebris review of the WW pilot and you'll see exactly why that version of WW should never see the light of day.

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 06:08 PM

I really hope they do a decent job with their new movie Diana. She deserves to be up there with Superman and Batman, and we deserve to live in a world where not every DC media project revolves around the same two guys again and again and again.

Arrow and the Flash are obviously a step in the right direction and I applaud that (from a distance). A Supergirl show will hopefully be a showcase for a number of female characters.

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 07:45 PM

Also maruten, go watch SFDebris review of the WW pilot and you'll see exactly why that version of WW should never see the light of day.

Unless removed, that pilot was actually uploaded to one of the video sites that's not Youtube. There were maybe an actor or two that might be okay with different lines and a few things they intrigued me that they used but the script sorta needed to be set on fire.

I really hope they do a decent job with their new movie Diana. She deserves to be up there with Superman and Batman, and we deserve to live in a world where not every DC media project revolves around the same two guys again and again and again.

All things considered, most media nowadays really only focuses on Batman and Superman gets stuff via obligation.
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Posted 05 September 2014 - 07:53 PM

Man, why should a show about a teenaged girl be like a show for teenaged girls?


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Posted 05 September 2014 - 08:01 PM

I have more faith in a CW show with a female lead than pretty much every other network.



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Posted 05 September 2014 - 11:02 PM

Also maruten, go watch SFDebris review of the WW pilot and you'll see exactly why that version of WW should never see the light of day.


I liked it, more or less. There were certainly decisions I didn't understand behind David E Kelley's vision for the show but I think it had potential. It may have been divisive but it wasn't Snyder's Superman.

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 04:43 PM

I have to disagree on that maruten.

I enjoyed Snyders MoS despite its flaws.

Kellys WW comes across a self-righteous psycho who will torture and beatdown anyone who gets in her way because she is in the right. The police are incompetant, the media adores her and believes she can do no wrong. Plus she has three seperate identities.

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 12:00 AM

Probably I view the pilot charitably in part because Wonder Woman is so under-represented and I was happy to take what I could get. And while it's not the Wonder Woman series I'd make (the multiple identities in particular was an utterly baffling approach -- just WHY?!) I would certainly have tuned in for a second episode.

Henry Cavill as Superman I liked a great deal, but the movie they built around him was just not a good Superman movie. If you love Superman there are many avenues open to you that are more satisfying than Snyder.

BUT ANYWAY SUPERGIRL

Let's see an adaptation of PAD's run!

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 06:46 AM

Fair point maruten.

As for Supergirl, i don't know much about her various versions and runs. Whats good about PADs run?

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Posted 07 September 2014 - 09:14 AM


What's good about Pad's Supergirl is really what's good about all PAD's series: Good writing, strong characterization, great humor, soap opera-y twists, building arcs and evolving characters, strong geeky fun vibe.

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