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@  Pennpenn : (20 June 2019 - 08:43 AM)

I hate it when the spicy version of something is in almost identical packaging to the non-spicy version. Especially when I don't notice until I've got home.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 June 2019 - 05:44 PM)

They make a lot of pills for that.

@  Nevermore : (19 June 2019 - 05:42 PM)

I got the results of the test back. I definitely have no sense of humor.

@  Paladin : (18 June 2019 - 05:59 PM)

so anyway how is your sex life?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 June 2019 - 10:50 AM)

These jokes are tearing me apart.

@  unluckiness : (18 June 2019 - 08:55 AM)

Only if the customer reviews give it all high marks.

@  Patch : (18 June 2019 - 04:42 AM)

Are they going to call it "I-Did-Nawtflix?"

@  unluckiness : (18 June 2019 - 12:48 AM)

I see, so what the world needs is a Tommy Wiseau streaming service.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2019 - 11:02 PM)

Well, Conan did start the trend that resulted in a wave of Barbarian films in the mid to late 80s

@  MEDdMI : (17 June 2019 - 10:57 PM)

I keep wanting to read Corman as Conan

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2019 - 10:29 PM)

There needs to be some streaming service that caters to connoisseurs of schlock. Otherwise, a huge part of our cultural history will be wiped away. While many of these films are available on blu-ray, with more coming out each month, it's good they're also available for the streaming crowd.

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 June 2019 - 10:18 PM)

Corman did make an impressive number of barbarian films back in the day. If impressive is the word

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 June 2019 - 08:11 PM)

I mean, where else are you going to see the entire Roger Corman barbarian fantasy library (legally) for free?

@  Steevy Maximus : (17 June 2019 - 08:09 PM)

Oh Tubi TV, you are a haven for terrible films. Netflix, Hulu and Crackle all push for mainstream appeal and prestige, you got the guts to have ready access to dregs even the SyFy channel wouldn't air

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 01:33 PM)

Also you have Bayonetta and a bunch of Fire Emblem people.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 01:33 PM)

...I mean, Tales character. Probably up to/for it.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2019 - 01:26 PM)

But what if I need to kill a god? Or several of them?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 11:25 AM)

Kratos is allowed, but only the one from Tales of Symphonia

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 June 2019 - 10:56 AM)

So no Kratos?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 10:42 AM)

In any case I'd rather have another Fire Emblem character than another character from a PlayStation exclusive game who teeeeeechnically was in a spinoff.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 June 2019 - 10:39 AM)

Kong had his name on the games first, but Mario was the protagonist first. It's debatable.

@  Rycochet : (17 June 2019 - 10:33 AM)

Wouldn't Mario be the one spun off from the Donkey Kong franchise, given that Kong was first?

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2019 - 05:19 AM)

I would count Wario and Yoshi, but not DK (might be because I wasn't even aware DK was spun off from the Mario franchise until I was in my mid-20s, but whatever)

@  unluckiness : (17 June 2019 - 04:13 AM)

But to be fair, Corrin is the only one I particularly dislike and it's really more boredom due to their blandness as characters

@  unluckiness : (17 June 2019 - 04:09 AM)

It would depend on whether or not you count DK, Wario and Yoshi as part of the Mario franchise or separate. Scratch that, there are more Mario characters even with just the mushroom symbol people but it's a close call.

@  Pennpenn : (17 June 2019 - 02:55 AM)

You'd figure Fire Emblem would have enough characters in Smash. Kinda feels like there's more FE characters than Mario characters.

@  unluckiness : (16 June 2019 - 01:20 AM)

And for hug's sake, I hope that the new Fire Emblem's PC isn't one of the DLC

@  Sean Whitmore : (15 June 2019 - 04:11 PM)

Smash Bros could never touch a new franchise again, and I'd still have laundry lists of side characters and villains I'd love to see included.

@  unluckiness : (15 June 2019 - 09:36 AM)

DINNER

@  SG Roadbuster : (15 June 2019 - 09:36 AM)

cuz i wanna fight a boat

@  SG Roadbuster : (15 June 2019 - 09:35 AM)

if we must have another zelda character, id want the king of red lion

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 10:38 PM)

I would unironically love Tingle in Smash.

@  Paladin : (14 June 2019 - 02:06 PM)

they HAVE to put Travis Touchdown in at some point now, right???

@  TheMightyMol... : (14 June 2019 - 01:24 PM)

Right after Shaq.

@  Locoman : (14 June 2019 - 12:36 PM)

When will we get Bluster Kong in Smash?

@  unluckiness : (14 June 2019 - 08:20 AM)

The last three DLC characters are Tingle, Charles Barkley and L Tetris block with Reverse L Tetris block as an Echo fighter.

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 08:09 AM)

Pipe dream Smash entry: The Prince from the Katamari series. :D

@  MEDdMI : (14 June 2019 - 06:35 AM)

The space/time around them gets frozen too! ....or something.

@  unluckiness : (14 June 2019 - 06:01 AM)

I still want to find out how freezing people suspends them in midair

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (14 June 2019 - 02:45 AM)

We really need Subzero or Scorpion in Smash. Violence aside, they are pretty big gaming icons as well.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2019 - 08:18 PM)

Given Nintendo's relationship with Tecmo, I'm still waiting for Ryu Hyabusa

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 June 2019 - 07:19 PM)

I'm still waiting for Doomguy.

@  Steevy Maximus : (13 June 2019 - 06:47 PM)

I just started watching High School DxD (don't judge me...) and I caught on the Nintendo Treehouse some request Rias for Smash lol

@  ▲ndrusi : (13 June 2019 - 11:25 AM)

I have having to watch a video to find out why someone wanted me to watch the video

@  Nevermore : (11 June 2019 - 04:58 PM)

I remember when the TPB for The Dark Age 2 was delayed for an entire year...

@  Trpodeca : (11 June 2019 - 03:55 AM)

I just wish they'd release the Astro City paperback trades.

@  Nevermore : (10 June 2019 - 05:31 AM)

As an open-minded heterosexual, I wouldn't mind seeing more of that.

@  Nevermore : (10 June 2019 - 05:29 AM)

Currently in the process of re-reading Kurt Busiek's Astro City. Big props for the issue featuring the "Dancing Master" and its portrayal of non-stereotypical gay characters.

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 June 2019 - 05:25 AM)

Don't phone charges often contain special rapid charge circuitry, though? The voltage might be higher too, given the selfie stick probably has a very basic battery.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (09 June 2019 - 11:28 PM)

Glad to be of assistance!


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#1 Kira Kira

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:28 PM

EDIT (5/12/2016): Just want to make a disclaimer that some of the information and ideas about gender I presented in the early posts in this thread are out of date, and frankly, embarrassing to me. ( > . < ) (like I think I spoke of gender and sex as separate concepts, which is such a gender 101 shortcut, bleh)
So feel free to use this info as a base of you want, but after that I'd say to seek out more complete and updated resources out there! (tumblr has tons lol)

That's that. :)

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I've had the idea for a thread like this for a while and after all the trans related discussion in the Botcon superthread I thought now would be a good time.
So here we are!
This thread exists as a place for transgender and cisgender Allsparkers alike to discuss transgender topics, including the basics, transition stuff, amd whatever comes to mind really.
What this thread needs to stay away from is religion and politics, be it pro-transgender individuals or against them. There's a subforum for stuff like that!

I figure the best way to start is to just sort of talk about who I am, what I'm going through right now, stuff like that.
I've been on hormone replacement therapy (HRT) for 6 months now. (I've identified as female for a long time, and have been living part time as a woman sine 2006-ish... I'll have to share more about all that another time) So, HRT is an integral part of transitioning for most trans people, and is what causes the body to change into something that is more congruent with our sense of self. What trans women such as myself take are an estrogen and a testosterone blocker. I'm taking a bioidentical estrogen, which is basically the same chemical as the hormones that cisgender women make, but created in a lab. Science!
Ok, so basically after this long the changes that are happening to my body are pretty apparent, which is cool. It's often described as a second puberty and that's the truest way I can describe it. It's wonderful, but sometimes awkward. And just like puberty it takes time for all the changes to take full effect.
And what changes are that, you might ask? Well all the secondary sex characteristics: breasts, more fat on the hips/thighs/butt, softer skin, thicker head hair, body hair turns vellus,etc. A trans woman's body odor changes as well, becoming more, um, feminine. And there's changes in the pheremones too. Basically HRT makes a lot of changes to the body (the way hormones control the body is fascinating!) Things that don't change are bone structure, facial hair, and voice, although if a trans girl transitions before puberty or during it voice deepening, beards, and bone growth can be avoided!
Oh, and the HRT also changes the libido and stops spontaneous erections. Which is very convenient, lol

There are also mental changes but those are much harder to quantify... It's hard to judge what are actual changes and what is from having a body that better fits the mind. But both happen.

I feel like there are a million other things I want to discuss, but I guess just discussing the physical aspects ia enough to begin with.
Please everyone join in with you question, insights, stories, whatever! Whether you are trans yourself, or a supporter, or just curious, let's make this thread a fun and interesting place!

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:41 PM

I admit I've always been curious about the facial hair thing. Ever since I heard it still grows after HRT I gained a lot of respect for my trans friends' ability to make it all dissappear so cleanly, considering how my male friends seem to suddenly bush up in 48 hours.


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#3 Kira Kira

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:45 PM

Usually a girl will get laser hair removal or electrolysis at some point, unless she wants to keep shaving forever. Until then it's shaving, make up, and luck!
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Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:50 PM

Oh right, silly me.

 

Laser isn't 100% though is it, it leaves about 20% of hair follicles or something.


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#5 Kira Kira

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:54 PM

Yeah, it takes multiple treatments over time I hear...
Eventually the hair gives up, I guess? Ha.

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Posted 01 July 2014 - 11:59 PM

I don't have questions at the moment because I'm exhausted but I am so very glad you've started this. I want to learn more and I hope others feel the same.

 

 

Oh, here's a question: Do you listen to Keith and The Girl?


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#7 Kira Kira

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:05 AM

Thanks! I hope everyone does too.

And nope, I had to look them up. Should I be listening?
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:07 AM

Something I've not quite grasped is the whole "transgender" thing.

 

I used to think there were two sexes. Male and Female. A transgender person was someone transitioning either from Male-to-Female or Female-to-Male. Is this not the case? Is a Transgender person someone who simply isn't their born sex even if they don't decide to have therapy or so on to transition?


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Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:08 AM

The Girl, Chemda, is engaged to a Transgender man named Lauren. It's different int hat he is still outwardly female but identifies male, keeping his birth name and all. Listening to him on the podcast helped me understand things I didn't know existed like phantom feelings of body parts that aren't there and never have been.

 

They do an amazing show and are very informative on a great many things, especially gender issues.


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Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:32 AM

Something I've not quite grasped is the whole "transgender" thing.

 

I used to think there were two sexes. Male and Female. A transgender person was someone transitioning either from Male-to-Female or Female-to-Male. Is this not the case? Is a Transgender person someone who simply isn't their born sex even if they don't decide to have therapy or so on to transition?

Basically a transgender person is anyone who's gender identity or gender expression doesn't match someone's assigned sex based upon their physical parts.

 

So for example, I'm transgender because I identify as a female even though I'm 100% biologically male and haven't started HRT or anything.

 

Or someone who is biologically female but identifies as both male and female would be transgender as well.

 

And other things too.


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#11 Kira Kira

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:41 AM

Something I've not quite grasped is the whole "transgender" thing.
 
I used to think there were two sexes. Male and Female. A transgender person was someone transitioning either from Male-to-Female or Female-to-Male. Is this not the case? Is a Transgender person someone who simply isn't their born sex even if they don't decide to have therapy or so on to transition?

You're basically right (although there are other less common sexes, like intersex people)... The physical change isn't what makes a person transgender, but rather their identifying as a different sex than they were born. That's why sometimes people use transsexual to refer to a transgender person who is actually transition and changing their bodies and such. Even trans people tend to muddle those two terms at times so I hope you don't mind that I don't delve into the nuances.
But in general if someone says they are transgender it's usually safe to assume they want to transition at some point.

The Girl, Chemda, is engaged to a Transgender man named Lauren. It's different int hat he is still outwardly female but identifies male, keeping his birth name and all. Listening to him on the podcast helped me understand things I didn't know existed like phantom feelings of body parts that aren't there and never have been.
 
They do an amazing show and are very informative on a great many things, especially gender issues.

Oh, wow that's cool. Especially to have a unique transgender POV.
Honestly I couldn't see doing what Lauren is doing (or not doing), but more power to him!
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 01:27 AM

I'm neutrois (Still feels weird to type) and I was born with a male body. Growing up, I never really enjoyed male company (Apart from my best friend, who I fell in love with) and I always felt uncomfortable being told I had to be more masculine or fit in with the 'lads'.

 

I'd never really seriously questioned my gender identity until a few years ago when II made a few transgender friends I have the utmost respect for (My sexual identity I'd finally figured out a few years previous). Once I'd started questioning, though, I wasn't able to stop. I feel unhappy in my body a lot of the time, but I've never really considered HRT. I actually feel a bit uncomfortable typing this (And talking about my own LGBT issues in general) because I trivialize my own gender identity and believe it's just not worth talking about compared to friends who have gender dysphoria so bad they suffer from chronic depression. I know it's actually counterproductive to think like that, but I really do worry that my issues are 'silly' in comparison.

 

I also worry/think I prefer thinking of myself as female compared to male because that's simply further from where I started. That I might be having these same issues from the opposite perspective if I was born with a female body.

 

I'm sorry I don't really have anything to add to the thread at the moment, but I've always been very interested in learning more about LGBT culture and people, so I'll be following and see if I can contribute.

 

I prefer the personal pronoun 'She' (Non binary pronouns are just not for me) but I'm so used to 'He' that really it's not a big deal.

 

So, uh, I hope that made some sense. It's very late and I'm having quite a poorly night.


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Posted 02 July 2014 - 02:24 AM

Thanks for sharing, especially since you feel uncomfortable about it. I know it's hard to work through tough stuff like that but it's almost always worth it!

I don't think you should feel bad just because your friends feel the dysphoria and you aren't. Each of us is different and your identity is just as valid as everyone else's.
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 02:25 AM

I've always felt uncomfortable in my own body, but it wasn't until around fall last year that I fully realized that I'm trans. (thanks, Kira, by the way, you were a big help in letting myself realizing that.) I haven't gotten on HRT yet or told my parents, because I'm scared they won't accept me for who I am (I live with a bunch of fundies), but I've slowly been coming out to my friends and at least one of my family members (My aunt). And they've helped me when I've been depressed, and my aunt said she'd be able to be there to back me up for when I'm going to tell my parents. I'm kinda hoping to come out somewhere in the next year, and I'm ready to get rid of this stupid body as soon as possible, but I'm still kind of nervous.

 

Anyway, that's my brief history. I'm kinda tired right now, and I don't have anything else to say that Kira and others haven't said already, but I'll be sure to chime in on any questions or anything.


 

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 02:35 AM

You're welcome kiddo! ( > u ^ )
I like playing big sister/mother, so I like to help when I can.

It's really huge that you have someone like an aunt on your side. That should really help when you come out to the 'rents! Any support is good, but a family member of a similar age to them is def going to make them realize that this isn't just some joke or fad to you, and who you see and something you need to do.

I think everyone in this thread is tired and should be sleeping, me including me. Ha.
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 03:58 AM

I think this thread is really, really fantastic because this is an important issue that so many people are just completely unaware of. There are so many people out there who just don't know this is a thing, and who innocently say hurtful or ignorant things not out of prejudice but just because they don't understand.

I'm terrified of gender politics of all varieties because even the simplest aspects can be hugely complex and subjective, and I just don't feel qualified to participate in discussions about that stuff. I think I'm slightly more educated than many because I have a close friend who's a trans woman, and seeing her courage on the path towards transition has been an inspiration and a privilege. But one of the main things I've learned is that human identity is so much more complex than most people realise and there's always more to learn.

Any endeavour that spreads information and fosters understanding is a wonderful thing.

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 04:16 AM

I don't think I've ever been happier to see a thread title before.

 

This is a great topic, and I love that already it's clear that there is a hell of a lot of love and support for you all.



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Posted 02 July 2014 - 05:26 AM

I've struggled with gender issues myself, though I've come to the conclusion I'm male enough to not bother changing my body. I'm also dating a transwoman, and have an unexpectedly high number of trans friends. All in all, I don't have too much to learn I feel, but I'm VERY glad this thread is here! :)



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Posted 02 July 2014 - 07:57 AM

I figured out I was trans just over two weeks ago. It feels like my subconscious has known for at least 15 years, though. I remember having If I Had Animorph Powers daydreams that often ended with me getting stuck in a girl form.
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 10:00 AM

Kira,

You said that you only live as a female PT. Are there outside social or professional factors that prevent you from living as your actual gender FT?

If not, living only PT just seems like crossdressing to me since you haven't completely rejected living as your physical sex and seems contrary to what I know about transgenderism.

If this is getting too personal, just let me know.

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