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@  Robowang : (23 March 2017 - 08:45 AM)

Yikes. Sounds more like GTA.

@  Dracula : (23 March 2017 - 08:42 AM)

Someone drove a car through a crowd of people and then into the front gates of parliament, I think, and stabbed a police officer before being killed by other officers

@  Robowang : (23 March 2017 - 08:10 AM)

I coincidentally watched London Has Fallen yesterday afternoon, heard an offhand remark about a terrorist attack in London on the radio yesterday afternoon, and somehow put the two together in my sleepy haze. I need to read what actually happened.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 March 2017 - 11:21 PM)

That's relieving to hear.

@  Jalaguy : (22 March 2017 - 05:33 PM)

All good here, I don't work that far into the city.

@  Bass X0 : (22 March 2017 - 05:00 PM)

I'm way up north, so yeah.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 March 2017 - 02:34 PM)

I just saw the news. Are all of you Britons on this board alright?

@  Telly : (22 March 2017 - 01:20 PM)

spoilers dude!

@  Paladin : (22 March 2017 - 12:26 PM)

I'm pretty sure Kong doesn't fight Fox Studios...

@  NotVeryKnightly : (22 March 2017 - 12:25 PM)

I didn't know he was meeting the Fantastic Four's enemies.

@  Bass X0 : (22 March 2017 - 12:18 PM)

I might watch Kong: Skrull Island this weekend.

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 March 2017 - 10:48 AM)

(At least I'm assuming it was "instead." I guess I don't know for sure that Eddie Murphy's character wouldn't have been Kirk's love interest.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (22 March 2017 - 10:47 AM)

I dunno about that. Star Trek IV was pretty great but I'm haunted by the knowledge that at one point instead of a love interest it was going to have Eddie Murphy.

@  Paladin : (22 March 2017 - 07:28 AM)

you know a remake/movie's in trouble when adding Eddie Murphy to it might make things BETTER...

@  unluckiness : (22 March 2017 - 06:45 AM)

Is Eddie Murphy still Mushu?

@  Waspinator : (21 March 2017 - 11:56 PM)

The captain Mulan falls in love with is also getting replaced by a new character

@  MEDdMI : (21 March 2017 - 08:32 PM)

As long as we get the men throwing their manliness around, then crossdressing, I'll be happy.

@  MEDdMI : (21 March 2017 - 08:30 PM)

what....? b-but that song's so awesome! *lookd up info* oh, it's just "for now", but could change since it's not planned for release until 2018.

@  Waspinator : (21 March 2017 - 08:22 PM)

Oh wow, you're not kidding: they're actually planning to remake Mulan without the songs. Idiots.

@  MEDdMI : (21 March 2017 - 08:16 PM)

I'LL... MAKE A MAN... OUT OF YOU!!!

@  BlackMax : (21 March 2017 - 06:50 PM)

Much love to NightViper for that.

@  Paladin : (21 March 2017 - 06:49 PM)

can't; they cut that from the new movie.

@  Evac : (21 March 2017 - 06:48 PM)

LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS! TO DEFEAT *smashes some pots* THE HUNS!

@  NightViper : (21 March 2017 - 01:54 PM)

If they had a sword they would not get bored. They would not get bored, that horrible Horde. They would find a lord - a lord and his ward - and use their sword to slice the lord. Yes slice the lord just like a gourd! Then the ward they turn themselves toward that horrible Horde. That horrible terrible deplorable Mongol Horde. And they would not be bored if they had a sword.

@  Telly : (21 March 2017 - 01:23 PM)

3

@  Paladin : (21 March 2017 - 01:07 PM)

how many boars would the Mongols hoard if the Mongol Horde got bored?

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 March 2017 - 11:28 AM)

Well, you won't find it if you don't look! (Neither TMM nor The Allspark are in any way responsible for what you find.)

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 March 2017 - 02:47 AM)

I haven't seen grilled cheese and Super Ted cross over yet on the internet. Nor do I intend to search!

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 March 2017 - 01:56 AM)

This is the internet. Everything crosses over with everything if you look long enough. And if you're lucky, some of it isn't even porn!

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (21 March 2017 - 01:40 AM)

I read that as San Adross and was wondering when there was a GTA and Star Fox Crossover... x.x;

@  Verity Carlo : (20 March 2017 - 09:02 PM)

gta san andreas bass boosted

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 06:56 PM)

starting monstrosity now... the arts making my eyes hurt and im hungry. ill start it later

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 06:55 PM)

trying to decide if autocracy was an attempt at an original story or just an excuse to quote the '86 movie for the gajillionth time. time to move on fom it (even if you did have a hand in writing it)!

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 04:38 PM)

certainly not! reminds me too much of those tests they made me take when i was a kid. the trauma. the trauma...

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 March 2017 - 04:07 PM)

What, you don't like inkblots?

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 03:46 PM)

plus the -acies have my all time favorite artist on it (thats to be read with the most sarcastic tone possible btw)

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 March 2017 - 03:40 PM)

You're not missing anything. Either in the "quality of the stories themselves" way OR in the "adds to the greater universe" way.

@  Dracula : (20 March 2017 - 03:30 PM)

I still haven't read the -acies despite owning most of them in print...

@  Dracula : (20 March 2017 - 03:29 PM)

I like Origins, I feel like the later stories add to it and make it better than what it was when written.

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 02:57 PM)

@jalaguy-well if i get bored with the stories i can always skip them lol

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 March 2017 - 02:53 PM)

Origins felt like it was Megatron telling his own story and leaving out the parts he didn't like.

@  Jalaguy : (20 March 2017 - 02:49 PM)

Origins-and-acies-first reading orders are A Bad Idea.

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 02:32 PM)

origin felt like its writer was just waiting for someone to come along and fill in the gaps for him

@  Telly : (20 March 2017 - 02:32 PM)

im currently making my way through autocracy. im trying to read them all in the order on the wiki page; http://tfwiki.net/wi...ontinuity#Media

@  Rycochet : (20 March 2017 - 02:04 PM)

The 'acys have no excuse for their terribleness.

@  Rycochet : (20 March 2017 - 02:04 PM)

Megatron Origin gave us Megatron's lovely locks, so that's something. It wasn't horrible, but being condensed down to four issues really hurt it

@  Jalaguy : (20 March 2017 - 03:20 AM)

March Mayhem begins! Go vote now!

 

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@  Whirl Maximus : (20 March 2017 - 12:18 AM)

I'd sooner have that, Autocracy, Monstrosity and Primacy as a alt universe story arc.

@  Noideaforaname : (19 March 2017 - 10:44 PM)

Megatron Origin is super disappointing if you go in right after reading Chaos Theory/MtMtE...

@  Telly : (19 March 2017 - 09:34 PM)

just read the megatron origin series. that really shouldve been 6 issues. it was very choppy and some things couldve used some further explaining


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#21 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 06:48 PM

Umm, DC had freakin' BATMAN.  I don't think there are many more capable of "getting the ball rolling" than the likes of Batman and Superman, two of the most recognizable comic book/superhero icons on the planet.

 

Blade was indicative of nothing aside from being a character that could be made into a film with relative ease with relatively little risk (relatively cheap, though its budget was par for the films Wesley Snipes was doing at the time), and it happened to be successful.  Whether or not Blade had gotten made, it would have made no difference to X-Men, which was FAR more "comic booky" (and riskier) than Blade.

 

What DC truly lacks, is a consistent vision.  Warner Bros is a departmentalized beaurocratic mess of conflicting egos all wanting to do "their own thing" with the same characters.  The movie side doesn't interact with the live action TV side who doesn't talk to the cartoon side who doesn't even get a memo from the comic book guys.  There is no unity, no focus to any project beyond the fiscal results.  There is no ONE person (like Kevin Feige) overseeing anyone one aspect of their properties (short the cluster eff their comic book arm has become), much less multiple.  For good or ill, you can't deny Marvel has done a generally good job of "streamlining" their media so that the Avengers cartoon isn't overly different than the movie, which isn't too far off from the comic book (bearing in mind comics are the LOW end of the totem poll at this stage).

 

Until DC/WB can get THAT issue sorted (HA!), I sincerely don't believe they'll ever be as well received (commercially or critically) as Marvel is now.



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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:46 PM

Umm, DC had freakin' BATMAN.  I don't think there are many more capable of "getting the ball rolling" than the likes of Batman and Superman, two of the most recognizable comic book/superhero icons on the planet.

And yet, they haven't.

You make a massive point about consistent vision and massive egos. My point is that they're taking the wrong risks, which is why I mentioned Blade. There's stuff that arguably shouldn't even be considered a risk. And I wasn't speaking ill of Marvel at all. They were making the right decisions long before Disney bought them while DC, the ones that have been owned by Time Warner for quite some time, struggle to make movies with their most well known icons.
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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:25 PM

  

You make a massive point about consistent vision and massive egos. My point is that they're taking the wrong risks, which is why I mentioned Blade. There's stuff that arguably shouldn't even be considered a risk. And I wasn't speaking ill of Marvel at all. They were making the right decisions long before Disney bought them while DC, the ones that have been owned by Time Warner for quite some time, struggle to make movies with their most well known icons.

 

I think I see the point you are trying to make, I just don't feel Blade is a terribly good example of it.  Blade was just as much a product of the situation of X-Men and Spider-Man: Marvel effectively whored out to whichever studio wanted to pay the cash for certain characters.  It wasn't produced as a "comic book movie" it largely got made as an action vehicle/franchise for Wesley Snipes (which likely contributed more to that film's success than the roots of the material), and Marvel probably didn't see much from it aside from original licensing cost.

Blade certainly didn't make people sit up and say "these comic book things CAN work as movies" the way X-Men did.

 

 

As is, I'm not sure the properties themselves are necessarily an issue at DC, I think it DOES come down to execution and management, which is frequently compromised due to ego and dollar signs.  I still question the property management at DC, as I think almost anything in their portfolio is a solid property, even Green Lantern or Flash.  I think either are viable risks, the problem is that WB isn't properly managing that risk (and FWIW, Disney's live action wing isn't doing much better).

For an unproven property, this is NO reason the budget for Green Lantern should have exceeded $200 million (and I heard marketing costs and such added another $100 million on THAT). Iron Man only had a budget of about $150 million.  Hell, NONE of the Marvel films (short Avengers) has had a budget exceed 200 million dollars, and most non-sequels stuck right around $150 million.  Even TRANSFORMERS has managed to keep its budget under 200 million.

It's just not practical to drop THAT kind of cash on every superhero project without some sort of long term plan.  Not only is it risky, but it creates an unachievable mark for success.  We saw the fallout of that with Green Lantern, which did set up a sequel which will NEVER happen.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 09:29 AM

For an unproven property, this is NO reason the budget for Green Lantern should have exceeded $200 million (and I heard marketing costs and such added another $100 million on THAT). Iron Man only had a budget of about $150 million.  Hell, NONE of the Marvel films (short Avengers) has had a budget exceed 200 million dollars, and most non-sequels stuck right around $150 million.  Even TRANSFORMERS has managed to keep its budget under 200 million.
It's just not practical to drop THAT kind of cash on every superhero project without some sort of long term plan. Not only is it risky, but it creates an unachievable mark for success.

They're cocky. It's a mindset that they can't lose and it's leading them to keep losing. It's also a misuse of resources.

I wonder if sliding comic sales, movies not bringing in what they expected, and the success of Arrow will cause them to rethink things.
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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:28 AM

Does anyone know how well the direct-to-video animated movies have been doing? 

 

It seems like DC's been doing 2 - 3 a year now, whereas I only see 1 a year from Marvel. 


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 06:15 PM

Does anyone know how well the direct-to-video animated movies have been doing? 

 

It seems like DC's been doing 2 - 3 a year now, whereas I only see 1 a year from Marvel. 

http://en.wikipedia....les_performance

 

Catch there is that those numbers are only for physical media sales, and I STRONGLY suspect that digital is much bigger for several of those releases.   Marvel really isn't doing much in that realm due to the MCU and a more aggressive TV presence, so I'm not sure there is a valid comparison there.

 

Either way, Warner seems to do "well enough" to keep the Original Features coming (though, probably more as a mindshare thing to offset their piddly TV and film output with those characters).  With the TV and film success,  I don't think Marvel has any pressing need to follow on that front.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 06:43 PM

Ugh, seeing Sandman on that list gives me douche chills. Double douche chills if it's being used as just another link in their super hero universe fence.

 

The rest, I'll keep an open mind for anything that isn't a Snyder/Goyer joint. I'd love for movies of Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel (Shazam is the wizard's name, the New 52 can gargle my nethers) to be good, and Green Lantern/Flash at least has the benefit of being something we didn't see coming.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 09:48 PM

Apparently Kevin Smith came out and said "That list is correct an I've know about it for awhile."

Make of that what you will.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 11:38 PM

Sandman noooooooo.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 01:20 AM

They realy need to have Afflek tell his buddy Smith to shut up. He's not helping anyone with his yap.



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Posted 20 June 2014 - 08:21 AM

I disagree.  Smith is a well recognized figure, a super fan, and a man who knows how to get a base excited.  They're keeping him in the loop just so he can keep dropping bits and riling up the fan base.  He's doing a decent job of keeping this at the forefront of everyone's minds.  

 

DC must make a change.  It will continue the path it's on now and it will reap moderate success, but nothing like Avengers.  To achieve that level is going to take a complete overhaul of how they do business and build their movies.  I don't see that happening any time soon.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 09:10 AM

According to Latino Review's "sources," we'll get our next Batman movie in 2019, when Ben Affleck stars in The Batman.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 12:41 PM

Secret INSIDE sources? He tell me?? :D


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 03:46 PM

DC must make a change.  It will continue the path it's on now and it will reap moderate success, but nothing like Avengers.  To achieve that level is going to take a complete overhaul of how they do business and build their movies.  I don't see that happening any time soon.

The optimistic mindset would be that skipping any movies for 2015 is because they're trying to fix their process.
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Posted 20 June 2014 - 05:16 PM

 

DC must make a change.  It will continue the path it's on now and it will reap moderate success, but nothing like Avengers.  To achieve that level is going to take a complete overhaul of how they do business and build their movies.  I don't see that happening any time soon.

The optimistic mindset would be that skipping any movies for 2015 is because they're trying to fix their process.

 

 

The optimistic approach would be razing DC comics to the ground and hoping something better is born from the ashes.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:46 AM

 

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 07:36 AM

Yep, Wonder Woman will finally get her own movie... only after all these other films including the Justice League movie.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 08:42 AM

Wow, Shazam is totally a movie I would not pay to see.  And I don't want Hollywood writers touching Sandman with a 10' pole.  And Justice League before Flash and Green Lantern?

 

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 08:44 AM

Green Lantern already happened! It was boring, so I can understand if you don't remember it!

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 08:45 AM

I assume they'll try to forget it happened and reboot with John Stewart since no other major DC characters are black.


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