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@  Paladin : (17 December 2017 - 07:51 PM)

i remember the missile gears malfuctioned a lot. damn thing once shot me in the middle of the night.

@  Fenix Twilight : (17 December 2017 - 06:54 PM)

Just transformed Unicron probably for the first time since I got him in 03, fun stuff. Still would like a new version but since they just did another release last year I guess we're stuck with that mold.

@  Shrug : (17 December 2017 - 06:16 PM)

Yeah, I think that might work on the red one, if I can find a neon enough yellow

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 December 2017 - 06:10 PM)

How about neon yellow/green? Like on Krok?

@  Shrug : (17 December 2017 - 05:45 PM)

I'm dealing with a black/grey robot and a red/black robot.

@  Shrug : (17 December 2017 - 05:44 PM)

I'm thinking of making some figures "G2" with minor paint additions: a little panel lining, probably. What colors in small amounts make you think G2?

@  Nevermore : (17 December 2017 - 05:41 PM)

Don't worry, it was grammatically correct, it just wasn't "fluent". :)

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 December 2017 - 03:29 PM)

Scheiße.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 December 2017 - 03:22 PM)

Damn. I initially thought of writing "Herzliche Glückwünsche", but I thought that didn't fit because we don't know each other in real life. But I forgot to check for quantity after dropping "Herzliche".

@  TM2-Megatron : (17 December 2017 - 03:14 PM)

It'll be nice when they finally perfect universal translation algorithms

@  Nevermore : (17 December 2017 - 02:43 PM)

In German, you only pluralize "Glückwunsch" when it's several people congratulating someone. As in, "I received everyone's congratulations."

@  Nevermore : (17 December 2017 - 02:42 PM)

That's actually a hypercorrect literal translation that immediately reveals you as a non-native speaker.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 December 2017 - 01:04 PM)

Glückwünsche!

@  ILoveDinobot : (17 December 2017 - 12:34 PM)

Grats Nevermore.

@  Shrug : (17 December 2017 - 12:13 PM)

That's awesome, congrats!

@  WorkbenchManiac : (17 December 2017 - 11:14 AM)

Congratulations!

@  Nevermore : (17 December 2017 - 11:11 AM)

And top top it all off, my employer will offer a one-off bonus for moving to permanent late shift, and another annual bonus if I stay on permanent late shift for an entire year.

@  Nevermore : (17 December 2017 - 11:10 AM)

That's basically my personal dream shift.

@  Nevermore : (17 December 2017 - 11:09 AM)

No more getting up early. Also, every work week will be from Monday to Friday, with the weekends off.

@  Nevermore : (17 December 2017 - 11:09 AM)

Next year I will have the option for permanent late shift.

@  Nevermore : (17 December 2017 - 11:09 AM)

Soon I'll be free!

@  RichardT1977 : (17 December 2017 - 07:59 AM)

Did I miss something, or did the whole movie pass without

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@  TM2-Megatron : (17 December 2017 - 02:18 AM)

TBH, the use of the word "boudoir" seemed a bit more out of place to me than the humour... has a non-English Terran language ever been established as existing in Star Wars before?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (17 December 2017 - 01:28 AM)

It's not like it's a big deal anyway. I mean, anything with Aurebesh in it is demonstrably non-canon, because there's no X in Aurebesh so X-Wings wouldn't be called X-Wings, right?

@  unitremover : (16 December 2017 - 11:48 PM)

That said, I do think it is really weird that

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@  unitremover : (16 December 2017 - 11:47 PM)

Yeah, TLJ felt a lot more mindful about when it broke out the quips/jokes than I think the Marvel movie comparison implies

@  2017 : (16 December 2017 - 09:35 PM)

I'm fine with the humour because the rest of the universe feels legit, and it's not ten quips a minute like those bloody Marvel movies.

@  Waspinator : (16 December 2017 - 09:22 PM)

It's mostly

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@  Waspinator : (16 December 2017 - 09:21 PM)

Do spoiler tags work here?

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@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2017 - 08:13 PM)

Less than 3 hours to go, now

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2017 - 08:11 PM)

Also, it can't be worse than those awful "sarcastic" jokes in the beginning of AotC that were meant to establish a camaraderie between Anakin and Obi-Wan where it was clear that none existed.

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2017 - 08:09 PM)

Doesn't sound like something I'll be bothered by; movies have to change at least a little bit with the times

@  Waspinator : (16 December 2017 - 07:59 PM)

Yeah, there was some sarcastic humor that wasn't really present in the classic movies

@  Steevy Maximus : (16 December 2017 - 02:00 PM)

I didn't have a problem with it. But it DOES skew a bit more "modern" in ways the humor of prior films didn't, short maybe Rogue One

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2017 - 01:20 PM)

I'm staying spoiler-free until I see it tonight, but a number of people seem really angry at the humour in the film

@  TM2-Megatron : (16 December 2017 - 01:19 PM)

I've already noticed some backlash against it over on blu-ray.com, but a lot of it seems to stem from anger about the Disney/Fox deal

@  TheMightyMol... : (16 December 2017 - 11:23 AM)

Because internet.

@  Bass X0 : (16 December 2017 - 11:20 AM)

Why are people getting so upset with other people's opinions of a family space movie?

@  wonko the sane? : (16 December 2017 - 10:43 AM)

I have lost my entire morning to a god damn nose bleed...

@  RichardT1977 : (16 December 2017 - 10:21 AM)

Turn around, bright eyes...

@  Pennpenn : (16 December 2017 - 01:18 AM)

Bismillah!

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 December 2017 - 12:30 AM)

DOOT DOO DEDOODOO

@  MEDdMI : (16 December 2017 - 12:16 AM)

MAHNA MAHNA

@  PlutoniumBoss : (16 December 2017 - 12:12 AM)

Though we touched and went our separate ways...

@  Echowarrior : (15 December 2017 - 09:56 PM)

We're running with the shadows of the night...

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 December 2017 - 03:42 PM)

Sweet dreams are made of this. Who am I to disagree?

@  Bass X0 : (15 December 2017 - 02:50 PM)

We're not gonna sit in silence, we're not gonna live with fear

@  lastmaximal : (15 December 2017 - 10:54 AM)

WHOA WHOAA WHOAAAAAAA-OH

@  unluckiness : (15 December 2017 - 10:20 AM)

Not that song, that's for sure

@  Pennpenn : (15 December 2017 - 08:29 AM)

What's new pussycat?


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#21 Steevy Maximus

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 06:48 PM

Umm, DC had freakin' BATMAN.  I don't think there are many more capable of "getting the ball rolling" than the likes of Batman and Superman, two of the most recognizable comic book/superhero icons on the planet.

 

Blade was indicative of nothing aside from being a character that could be made into a film with relative ease with relatively little risk (relatively cheap, though its budget was par for the films Wesley Snipes was doing at the time), and it happened to be successful.  Whether or not Blade had gotten made, it would have made no difference to X-Men, which was FAR more "comic booky" (and riskier) than Blade.

 

What DC truly lacks, is a consistent vision.  Warner Bros is a departmentalized beaurocratic mess of conflicting egos all wanting to do "their own thing" with the same characters.  The movie side doesn't interact with the live action TV side who doesn't talk to the cartoon side who doesn't even get a memo from the comic book guys.  There is no unity, no focus to any project beyond the fiscal results.  There is no ONE person (like Kevin Feige) overseeing anyone one aspect of their properties (short the cluster eff their comic book arm has become), much less multiple.  For good or ill, you can't deny Marvel has done a generally good job of "streamlining" their media so that the Avengers cartoon isn't overly different than the movie, which isn't too far off from the comic book (bearing in mind comics are the LOW end of the totem poll at this stage).

 

Until DC/WB can get THAT issue sorted (HA!), I sincerely don't believe they'll ever be as well received (commercially or critically) as Marvel is now.



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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:46 PM

Umm, DC had freakin' BATMAN.  I don't think there are many more capable of "getting the ball rolling" than the likes of Batman and Superman, two of the most recognizable comic book/superhero icons on the planet.

And yet, they haven't.

You make a massive point about consistent vision and massive egos. My point is that they're taking the wrong risks, which is why I mentioned Blade. There's stuff that arguably shouldn't even be considered a risk. And I wasn't speaking ill of Marvel at all. They were making the right decisions long before Disney bought them while DC, the ones that have been owned by Time Warner for quite some time, struggle to make movies with their most well known icons.
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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:25 PM

  

You make a massive point about consistent vision and massive egos. My point is that they're taking the wrong risks, which is why I mentioned Blade. There's stuff that arguably shouldn't even be considered a risk. And I wasn't speaking ill of Marvel at all. They were making the right decisions long before Disney bought them while DC, the ones that have been owned by Time Warner for quite some time, struggle to make movies with their most well known icons.

 

I think I see the point you are trying to make, I just don't feel Blade is a terribly good example of it.  Blade was just as much a product of the situation of X-Men and Spider-Man: Marvel effectively whored out to whichever studio wanted to pay the cash for certain characters.  It wasn't produced as a "comic book movie" it largely got made as an action vehicle/franchise for Wesley Snipes (which likely contributed more to that film's success than the roots of the material), and Marvel probably didn't see much from it aside from original licensing cost.

Blade certainly didn't make people sit up and say "these comic book things CAN work as movies" the way X-Men did.

 

 

As is, I'm not sure the properties themselves are necessarily an issue at DC, I think it DOES come down to execution and management, which is frequently compromised due to ego and dollar signs.  I still question the property management at DC, as I think almost anything in their portfolio is a solid property, even Green Lantern or Flash.  I think either are viable risks, the problem is that WB isn't properly managing that risk (and FWIW, Disney's live action wing isn't doing much better).

For an unproven property, this is NO reason the budget for Green Lantern should have exceeded $200 million (and I heard marketing costs and such added another $100 million on THAT). Iron Man only had a budget of about $150 million.  Hell, NONE of the Marvel films (short Avengers) has had a budget exceed 200 million dollars, and most non-sequels stuck right around $150 million.  Even TRANSFORMERS has managed to keep its budget under 200 million.

It's just not practical to drop THAT kind of cash on every superhero project without some sort of long term plan.  Not only is it risky, but it creates an unachievable mark for success.  We saw the fallout of that with Green Lantern, which did set up a sequel which will NEVER happen.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 09:29 AM

For an unproven property, this is NO reason the budget for Green Lantern should have exceeded $200 million (and I heard marketing costs and such added another $100 million on THAT). Iron Man only had a budget of about $150 million.  Hell, NONE of the Marvel films (short Avengers) has had a budget exceed 200 million dollars, and most non-sequels stuck right around $150 million.  Even TRANSFORMERS has managed to keep its budget under 200 million.
It's just not practical to drop THAT kind of cash on every superhero project without some sort of long term plan. Not only is it risky, but it creates an unachievable mark for success.

They're cocky. It's a mindset that they can't lose and it's leading them to keep losing. It's also a misuse of resources.

I wonder if sliding comic sales, movies not bringing in what they expected, and the success of Arrow will cause them to rethink things.
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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:28 AM

Does anyone know how well the direct-to-video animated movies have been doing? 

 

It seems like DC's been doing 2 - 3 a year now, whereas I only see 1 a year from Marvel. 


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 06:15 PM

Does anyone know how well the direct-to-video animated movies have been doing? 

 

It seems like DC's been doing 2 - 3 a year now, whereas I only see 1 a year from Marvel. 

http://en.wikipedia....les_performance

 

Catch there is that those numbers are only for physical media sales, and I STRONGLY suspect that digital is much bigger for several of those releases.   Marvel really isn't doing much in that realm due to the MCU and a more aggressive TV presence, so I'm not sure there is a valid comparison there.

 

Either way, Warner seems to do "well enough" to keep the Original Features coming (though, probably more as a mindshare thing to offset their piddly TV and film output with those characters).  With the TV and film success,  I don't think Marvel has any pressing need to follow on that front.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 06:43 PM

Ugh, seeing Sandman on that list gives me douche chills. Double douche chills if it's being used as just another link in their super hero universe fence.

 

The rest, I'll keep an open mind for anything that isn't a Snyder/Goyer joint. I'd love for movies of Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel (Shazam is the wizard's name, the New 52 can gargle my nethers) to be good, and Green Lantern/Flash at least has the benefit of being something we didn't see coming.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 09:48 PM

Apparently Kevin Smith came out and said "That list is correct an I've know about it for awhile."

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 11:38 PM

Sandman noooooooo.
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Posted 17 June 2014 - 01:20 AM

They realy need to have Afflek tell his buddy Smith to shut up. He's not helping anyone with his yap.



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Posted 20 June 2014 - 08:21 AM

I disagree.  Smith is a well recognized figure, a super fan, and a man who knows how to get a base excited.  They're keeping him in the loop just so he can keep dropping bits and riling up the fan base.  He's doing a decent job of keeping this at the forefront of everyone's minds.  

 

DC must make a change.  It will continue the path it's on now and it will reap moderate success, but nothing like Avengers.  To achieve that level is going to take a complete overhaul of how they do business and build their movies.  I don't see that happening any time soon.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 09:10 AM

According to Latino Review's "sources," we'll get our next Batman movie in 2019, when Ben Affleck stars in The Batman.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 12:41 PM

Secret INSIDE sources? He tell me?? :D


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 03:46 PM

DC must make a change.  It will continue the path it's on now and it will reap moderate success, but nothing like Avengers.  To achieve that level is going to take a complete overhaul of how they do business and build their movies.  I don't see that happening any time soon.

The optimistic mindset would be that skipping any movies for 2015 is because they're trying to fix their process.
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Posted 20 June 2014 - 05:16 PM

 

DC must make a change.  It will continue the path it's on now and it will reap moderate success, but nothing like Avengers.  To achieve that level is going to take a complete overhaul of how they do business and build their movies.  I don't see that happening any time soon.

The optimistic mindset would be that skipping any movies for 2015 is because they're trying to fix their process.

 

 

The optimistic approach would be razing DC comics to the ground and hoping something better is born from the ashes.


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Posted 23 June 2014 - 06:46 AM

 

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 07:36 AM

Yep, Wonder Woman will finally get her own movie... only after all these other films including the Justice League movie.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 08:42 AM

Wow, Shazam is totally a movie I would not pay to see.  And I don't want Hollywood writers touching Sandman with a 10' pole.  And Justice League before Flash and Green Lantern?

 

Ooooookay.


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Posted 25 June 2014 - 08:44 AM

Green Lantern already happened! It was boring, so I can understand if you don't remember it!

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 08:45 AM

I assume they'll try to forget it happened and reboot with John Stewart since no other major DC characters are black.


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