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@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 06:35 PM)

I loved what was there, and think it's pretty ripe for "renegades" style reboot.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:13 PM)

It's a shame as I loved Spiral Zone, and the design from the Japanese Toyline of the same name are fantastic, I adore the monowheel motorbike.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 03:12 PM)

Hasbro doesn't seem to have any interest in doing anything with the TV show, haven't greenlit any attempt to rerelease it, and there have been approaches, so I think it may be aother one of Tonka's legal carcrashes where everyone involved owns a piece and it's not really worth anyone sticking their neck out to claim ownership.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I feel that homages and references would be a fun way to expand the GI Joe brand, and give a little love to lines that are unlikely to be acknowledged beyond such capacity.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 01:47 PM)

I was under the impression that Bandai was more the character design aspects, not story or characters.

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:55 PM)

Also isn't it in rights limbo, given how it's loosely based on concepts from a BanDai series much like GoBots?

@  Rycochet : (19 September 2020 - 12:52 PM)

We don't need a Spiral Zone reboot, in a decade or so we'll be living it.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 12:49 PM)

Yeah, but it would fundamentally change the base premise of both gijoe and spiral zone. It's either not the world spanning threat it was, or the zone riders are backed up by a competent force. Either way, you compromise the context of both.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:19 PM)

Akin to what was done with Matt Tracker in 2008.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

Again, not a PURE transplant, but an integration of ideas and concepts into the world of GI Joe.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 12:18 PM)

@Wonko The Cobra Overlord, with help from Dr. Mindbender and Cesspool, develops machines capable of generating a mind-controlling fog. GI Joe stalwarts Flint, Airtight, Lifeline, and Psyche-Out are joined by Colonal Courage to infiltrate these zones and disable the machines. Figures would sport hostile environment suits (Eco warriors cross with Spiral Zone) and make new versions of the mono-wheel vehicles.

@  Maximus Ambus : (19 September 2020 - 09:39 AM)

Hasbroverse.2 with bought properties: Bravestarr, Ulysses 31, Galaxy Rangers, Shadow Raiders, Manta Force, Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors, Mighty Orbots, Jem and Bigfoot and the Muscle Machines. Seamless.

@  wonko the sane? : (19 September 2020 - 08:32 AM)

While acknoledging spiral zone would be pretty boss, I doubt they could actively integrate it into anything else: given the scale of the villains deeds.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:03 AM)

COPS, Spiral Zone, Shadow Strikers, Action Man, Centurions, MegaForce. They wouldn’t replicate the old lines, but simply acknowledging their existence would be nifty.

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 September 2020 - 08:01 AM)

I would love to see GI Joe become something of a “celebration of action figures”. Hasbro has SO MANY old action figure properties, and many could slot into the GI Joe umbrella with relative ease.

@  Otaku : (19 September 2020 - 12:04 AM)

G.I. Joe, CyberCOPS, and M.A.S.K. all seem like something that would work from Animated or Prime, though CyberCOPS might have been a bit trickier from Prime.

@  Sabrblade : (18 September 2020 - 11:02 PM)

Rik Alvarez originally wanted the last episode of Prime to spinoff into a new MASK reboot.

@  Otaku : (18 September 2020 - 08:19 PM)

The failed Hasbroverse reminds me how so many things could have been spun off from Transformers: Animated and (after that) Transformers: Prime.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 12:43 PM)

Requiem of the Wreckers was post-Revolution, but it was also, you know, a single issue.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:06 AM)

But Roche didn't have a series to keep out from the crossovers since Sins of the Wreckers was before Revolution.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 11:01 AM)

Oh wait, that post said Roche, not Barber.

@  Rycochet : (18 September 2020 - 10:46 AM)

And then seemed surprised nobody particlarly wanted it.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 September 2020 - 10:25 AM)

Wasn't Barber among the editorial guys that pushed for Hasbroverse?

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 10:19 AM)

He did it possibly due to 616 Spider-Mans marriage reset between Civil War and Secret Invasion.

@  ▲ndrusi : (18 September 2020 - 09:20 AM)

Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man because it was mostly set far away from Earth?

@  -LittleAutob... : (18 September 2020 - 08:49 AM)

I'm learning so much-

@  Maruten : (18 September 2020 - 04:21 AM)

At its worst it was better than MASK, sure.

@  Maximus Ambus : (18 September 2020 - 02:15 AM)

At it's worst it still stomped all over the failed Hasbroverse. Roberts and Roche kept their respective series well out of that one for the same reasons Bendis kept a tight leash on Ultimate Spider-Man when Loeb and Miller wanted greater control for Ultimatum.

@  Maruten : (17 September 2020 - 06:37 PM)

That's so accurate it's physically painful.

@  Rycochet : (17 September 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Red Dwarf of Transformers? An interesting, innovative and genuinely funny series that descended into a self referential mess of cliches that continues long after it should have been put out to pasture and rendered nerly everyone thoroughly unlikeable? That seems about right.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 01:59 PM)

MTMTE and Lost Light are the Red Dwarf of Transformers stories, as opposed to the others which are more like Star Wars and Star Trek.

@  Kalidor : (17 September 2020 - 01:37 PM)

Anyone in CONUS want a Skylynx for $100 shipped?

@  Maximus Ambus : (17 September 2020 - 01:34 PM)

Maybe an acquired taste in that's in that it's from a fan raised on the UK run where Transformers wasn't taken so seriously in many stories, especially some Earthforce standalones.

@  Paladin : (17 September 2020 - 09:47 AM)

so, terrible?

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Yeah I think at that point Lost Light is just the '86 movie without the soundtrack.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 September 2020 - 02:28 AM)

So, exctly what Triangleman just said.

@  Bass X0 : (17 September 2020 - 12:36 AM)

A few of the same characters.

@  ▲ndrusi : (17 September 2020 - 12:07 AM)

Now having actually read Galaxies #10, I don't actually see what it has in common with Lost Light at all besides featuring Ultra Magnus, Chromedome, and a spaceship.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 05:33 PM)

So, it's exactly like Lost Light, then.

@  Bass X0 : (16 September 2020 - 01:52 PM)

What if Lost Light was stripped bare of its charm and humor? Galaxies #10 is the answer.

@  ▲ndrusi : (16 September 2020 - 01:49 PM)

I didn't mean "*exactly* 15 years ago and no other time."

@  NotVeryKnightly : (16 September 2020 - 12:27 AM)

I mean, the comment was about a linewide gimmick of 15 years ago, not a gimmick only present in a minority of toys from that year.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:14 AM)

I'd like a western take on the UT for it's twentieth, like a annual CG or anime movie on Netflix that is a condensed retelling similar to the film Macross/Robotech: Do You Remember Love.

@  Maximus Ambus : (16 September 2020 - 12:11 AM)

Giant Planet had them, Energon had a few. I've been disappointed in Siege for not having something for the Micromasters, Earthrise has with the base bots but they've been wasted here.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (15 September 2020 - 10:47 PM)

Wasn't 15 years ago Cyber Keys rather than Minicons?

@  Steevy Maximus : (15 September 2020 - 09:38 PM)

By and large, even the worst Minicons have some unique engineering or design elements. The nostalgia factor aside, Micromasters got pretty samey after you got several, especially the "proper" 89 series.

@  unluckiness : (15 September 2020 - 07:13 PM)

There's certainly a load of crummy ones to sift through

@  TheMightyMol... : (15 September 2020 - 05:29 PM)

Or both. There's some overlap.

@  wonko the sane? : (15 September 2020 - 03:19 PM)

People either hated minicons or became completely addicted to them.

@  ▲ndrusi : (15 September 2020 - 03:17 PM)

A properly-planned theme, or as people called it 15 years ago, a stupid linewide baby toy gimmick that ruins the toys.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 07:46 AM

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Interestingly enough it seems that Optimus' biceps are no longer tied to the waist and legs, as both look to be molded in plastic.  Also the wind vane used to be tied to the rest of the red and it too looks to be black plastic and not painted.  Even the fists, which were black in the mockups with blue paint on the backs, now looks to be entirely blue plastic (eliminating any black) as well as the shin vents being blue too.  So if this is true they're either separated from the tires or the tires are molded in blue plastic and perhaps painted black.  If the tires are separated, ti's too bad this wasn't done / allowed for United Ultra Magnus and BotCon Ginrai to get them some white and red molded fists.

 

Megatron looks great too, and I can't wait to get him as well.  The boxes are fantastic.

 

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:09 AM

This is totally my favorite G1 Prime version of this mold now.  Though I really like the Henkei one and the new 2 pack for his awesome / ridiculous chrome legs.

 

Though the truck looks ridiculous.

 

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:29 AM

Of all the versions, I still prefer the Henkei - it walks the fine line between ridiculous chrome and proper metallic plastic/paint. But I must admit, the new AoE repaint does look tempting.



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:34 AM

I had forgotten the Henkei had the ugly double shoulder symbols. :puke

 

Really glad I preordered Cloud Prime.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:39 AM

It's like they took Henkei Convoy and dunked him in a vat of paint remover. I get that they're going for a cartoon color layout but it just seems so boring.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:51 AM

Looks like the second dullest deco on the mold, after United Magnus.

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:56 AM

I want the Megatron so much. Symmetry forces me to "want" the Optimus, too, but $100 for that is just not going to happen.



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:13 AM

Megatron's stats are crazy and they've added Aptitude as something they measure.

http://www.tfw2005.c...atron-hand.html

 

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:50 AM

I had forgotten the Henkei had the ugly double shoulder symbols. :puke

 

Really glad I preordered Cloud Prime.

 

*gets out his reprolabel Autobot sigils and ponders adding a second symbol to every Prime he owns* ;)

 

In all seriousness, while I'd love to own both of these toys, at their prices it just isn't going to happen.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:02 AM

I didn't like the contrast of the bright white legs in the promo pics...but that actually looks awesome. I think it might be the best release of the mold yet. 

 

It's got a few things I don't care for - no silver stripe in truck mode, black wind vane - but overall I really like it. I have no need for it as I'm trying to curate my collection a bit and I already have the best representation of Prime possible (Masterpiece), but otherwise it would probably replace Henkei Prime in a Classics display.  



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:27 AM

I'd buy it on a whim at Voyager price but not at that price.



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:29 AM

Exactly. Just waaaaay too pricey. The only reason I eventually got Henkei Prime some years after its release is because I got a heck of a deal at Botcon.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:32 AM

I definitely think it's worth it, but I've always been willing to pay extra (to a ridiculous degree) for what I consider the best possible version. Ask me about eHobby Astrotrain sometime. 

 

I wonder how this one would look with the chrome upper legs and waist from that two-pack version, since it fixes every problem I had with that one...


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:34 AM

Mix-n-match Classics Prime pelvis/thigh packs!


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:39 AM

It's like they took Henkei Convoy and dunked him in a vat of paint remover. I get that they're going for a cartoon color layout but it just seems so boring.

Underdetailed 1980s animation coloring!
 

Megatron's stats are crazy and they've added Aptitude as something they measure.
http://www.tfw2005.c...atron-hand.html
 
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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:47 AM

Though the in-hand pics are interesting, I find the comic pics to be more interesting.  Apparently the FOC Combaticons are helping Cloud Megs in some way, and they showed off Shockwave (with an actual hand on one arm!).


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:53 AM

The Generations and Henkei bodies have been used for the Cloud Combaticons, Seekers, Blitzwing, Jazz, Blaster, Ratchet, and Soundwave IIRC.

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 12:07 PM

Oh, I see. Thanks! 



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:34 PM

Looking forward to seeing comparison pics between Cloud Optimus and the AOE Evolution 2-Pack version.


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Posted 27 May 2014 - 05:56 AM

I had forgotten the Henkei had the ugly double shoulder symbols. :puke

 

Really glad I preordered Cloud Prime.

 

What's so wrong with those? In a lot of shots of the G1 toon (and comic) Prime often had the symbols on both shoulders, so I am perfectly fine with that.

 

I got Henkei Prime and Megs for about 40$ - this was before the whole City Commander craziness made the prices rise.


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