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@  Steevy Maximus : (02 April 2020 - 11:07 AM)

I could never master oral bullshittery. But in my day I was quite adept with the written word.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 April 2020 - 11:32 PM)

You have mastered the art of Bulljive. You must use this power only for good, or entertainment.

@  Sabrblade : (01 April 2020 - 08:58 PM)

This morning, for one of my online classes, I had to give a positive oral presentation about a play that I hated having to watch. I went into it completely unprepared and just winged it. My professor LOVED my presentation and thought it was excellent. She believed every word I said and honestly thought that I enjoyed that miserable play. Best April Fools ever!

@  ▲ndrusi : (01 April 2020 - 10:06 AM)

Happy Everyone Thinks They're A Comedian Now Day!

@  Donocropolis : (31 March 2020 - 05:45 AM)

Who, I might add, has never been photographed together with Byteman. Just sayin'.

@  Sabrblade : (30 March 2020 - 10:27 PM)

Bruce Wayne's cyberpunk cousin?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 March 2020 - 09:27 PM)

Laser Wayne

@  Sabrblade : (30 March 2020 - 09:08 PM)

Luther Unum

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 March 2020 - 07:09 PM)

Or Lee Derwon.

@  Steevy Maximus : (30 March 2020 - 06:51 PM)

Not to be confused with Leader I

@  Steevy Maximus : (30 March 2020 - 06:50 PM)

He was Leader Uno

@  Steevy Maximus : (30 March 2020 - 06:50 PM)

He was the OTHER Leader 1

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 March 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Or Sideways.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (30 March 2020 - 05:26 PM)

On the other hand, this is Armada we're talking about. It could have actually been Metroplex.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (28 March 2020 - 11:08 PM)

Oh yeah, that was Fort Max. My bad.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 March 2020 - 09:12 PM)

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Peritus_Maximus

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 March 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Christmas Maximus?

@  Maximus Ambus : (28 March 2020 - 01:13 PM)

At least the ozone layer is healing. unless this is a 0.0000000001% thing it's sounds like good news.

@  ▲ndrusi : (28 March 2020 - 09:27 AM)

(But only pretty sure, not 100% sure.)

@  ▲ndrusi : (28 March 2020 - 09:26 AM)

Pretty sure y'all were thinking of Fortress Maximus yesterday.

@  Bass X0 : (28 March 2020 - 12:38 AM)

Dare! Dare to believe you can survive 2020!

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 March 2020 - 08:18 PM)

Baja Blast is back at retail!

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2020 - 03:47 PM)

Shame he wasn't around more. He seemed like such a jolly, happy soul.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (27 March 2020 - 02:16 PM)

No, he was definitely Metroplex. You could tell because he was in Metroplex's distinctive red and green coloration.

@  Paladin : (27 March 2020 - 02:11 PM)

that was Leader-1. or possibly Jolt. maybe Grindor...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (27 March 2020 - 01:57 PM)

Metroplex was in Armada, in a flashback. He was the same size as everybody else. I thought that was the joke.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (27 March 2020 - 12:39 PM)

@Rodimus Supreme: Gah! You are right! How'd I get that mixed up? x.x;

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 March 2020 - 12:14 PM)

There is no Metroplex. Only Zuul.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:13 AM)

@Tm_Silverclaw: There is no Armada Metroplex, he was in Cybertron.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:12 AM)

And they'd be better off just retooling Metroplex and Fortress Maximus to be somewhat more accurate and changing/adding parts for interaction with later play gimmicks.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (27 March 2020 - 11:11 AM)

I honestly would prefer that for scale purposes.

@  Cyoti : (27 March 2020 - 11:07 AM)

They can redo all the CW combiners as Titan Class figures like Predaking/Devastator.

@  Dekafox : (27 March 2020 - 07:52 AM)

They could just redo Metroplex again too. Especially if it's going to be S3 based. They could also do another Primus to go with the coming Unicron.

@  OverDrive73 : (26 March 2020 - 10:56 PM)

If anyone is bored, or interested... I just added the last chapter to my fanfic comic in Allspark Pictures

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (26 March 2020 - 10:54 PM)

And no.. We could always get Titan Class Superion.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (26 March 2020 - 10:53 PM)

We need Titan Class Transformers Armada Metroplex.

@  Telly : (26 March 2020 - 08:39 PM)

ill be surprised if scorpy isnt the last titan

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 March 2020 - 05:57 PM)

Too bad a new character titan class figure is pretty much an impossibility.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 March 2020 - 05:56 PM)

I want a titan class, really good looking bucket wheel excavator. Like Cybertron Metroplex was supposed to be but didn't quite pull off.

@  wonko the sane? : (26 March 2020 - 03:32 PM)

I just taped up a shower curtain and took my first shower in three weeks. It was heavenly.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (26 March 2020 - 11:48 AM)

I would buy that...

@  Maximus Ambus : (24 March 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Studio Series 100 Titan Class Driller.

@  Sabrblade : (23 March 2020 - 09:05 PM)

I'll give ya 25 cents, a pack of gum, and some peanuts.

@  TheMightyMol... : (23 March 2020 - 07:35 PM)

I can give ya twenty bucks for it.

@  Paladin : (23 March 2020 - 04:28 PM)

hoarder? I hardly know 'er?

@  Dekafox : (23 March 2020 - 01:52 PM)

FOR THE HORDE!

@  repowers : (23 March 2020 - 01:48 PM)

* hordes shrubberies *

@  Telly : (23 March 2020 - 01:46 PM)

YET...

@  PlutoniumBoss : (23 March 2020 - 01:22 PM)

At least we haven't resorted to shouting "NI" at old ladies.

@  CORVUS : (23 March 2020 - 11:04 AM)

Keep it out, and I won't reply to it.


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#13421 Nevermore

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 04:45 PM

How is that different, then, from adjusting hues and enhancing colors or saturation in general? If we were to go fully "100% authentic", we'd have to stick firmly to poor quality images that dont get any editing.

 

And how about toys? Aren't a lot of vintage toys these days broken and are missing stickers? Should our toy photos reflect that reality?

 

I think there's a middle ground between "authenticity" and "presentability".

 

(And besides - the IDW reprints can be purchased!)


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Posted 16 February 2020 - 07:11 PM

I'm a person who likes seeing film grain even on my blurays, so I'm for accuracy over "revised".



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Posted 16 February 2020 - 07:22 PM

I do find the IDW reprints morally objectable because it seems that they've completely destroyed the originals; which is why the Hachette books and the Visual History had to use the reprinted versions.



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Posted 16 February 2020 - 07:28 PM

If I have to change the saturation on a photo of say G1 Kup to more accurately capture the shade he actually is because he doesnt photograph well I think thats different then Frankensteining together two different sources for a composite image that again only exists because you rather than a licensed entity made them.

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 07:33 PM

So... what about this image of Bluestreak then? It's a reconstruction of the character card art of eHobby Anime Streak and the package art of Commemorative Series Silverstreak, but it's not just a scan of either; it's a digitally recolored version of G1 Bluestreak's package art made to resemble those two official uses, both of which were cropped in their official use.

 

Or what about all those gazillion collages of various Seeker color schemes, or this comparison of Broadside's two character models? All of them are fan-colored versions of model sheets whose only "official" versions were purely black and white, based on existing color schemes.

 

They're all "idealized" versions of images that either don't exist in this way, or at least we have no access to these exact versions of these images, so we reconstructed them.

 

What about all the artwork taken from sourcebooks where the backgrounds were edited out to isolate the character against a white background? Surely an authentic representation should leave the backgrounds intact.

 

Arguably, those are even worse! They're altering existing images by either removing something, or adding something unofficial. Meanwhile, all I do is basically a mix of two official versions, with no removal of elements of addition of unofficial elements.

 

If you want to argue Im crossing a line here, I'd argue that line has been crossed years ago by other people.


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Posted 16 February 2020 - 07:45 PM

If we dont have access to the images then yeah not much else we can do than make them but we have what THREE different versions of the comic to choose from? Marvel, Titan, and IDW.

If you want to use these Im not going to stop you or revert edits over it.

You asked for thoughts and these are mine :)

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 07:46 PM

I have no intention of getting involved in this particular contretemps, but that's not a fan-recolored Bluestreak boxart, it's stitched together from the official uses of the art. Or it was. I see Monzo uploaded a more recently, slightly different version, and I have no idea where that came from.



#13428 Nevermore

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 07:55 PM

I have no intention of getting involved in this particular contretemps, but that's not a fan-recolored Bluestreak boxart, it's stitched together from the official uses of the art. Or it was.

I think the older version was recolored from his original boxart using large versions of the official recolored art as references. I even provided those references! It can't be stitched together purely from the official uses of that art though; neither version has the lower end of either foot!


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Posted 16 February 2020 - 08:19 PM

I don't think any "counter-example" you've cited is remotely analagous to what you're talking about doing, to the point where I'm genuinely confused as to whether we're talking about the same thing. The purpose and context for which those other images were added to the site are wholly different than the average comic panel. 

 

Nobody is arguing "Don't use any edited images on the site". But rather, in the very specific realm of comic book panels, lean towards preserving the original asthetic (warts and all). It's part of their charm.


Edited by Xaaron, 16 February 2020 - 08:26 PM.


#13430 Sabrblade

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 01:15 AM

I asked this on the Wiki and am raising it here too.

 

I've been wondering something about the name of Black Roritchi (the gold redeco of Fasttrack who came with BlackZarak). Since the "Roritchi' part of his name is written as ロリッチ in Katakana, shouldn't his name instead be "Black Roricchi" since the small ッ is used to double the next character's consonant sound (In this case, it turns the "chi" of チ into "cchi") and does not universally function like a letter T sound?

 

EDIT: This has been answered. "Roritchi" is correct, and I was mistaken.


Edited by Sabrblade, 21 February 2020 - 10:57 AM.

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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 02:04 AM

But rather, in the very specific realm of comic book panels, lean towards preserving the original asthetic (warts and all). It's part of their charm.


Is "warts and all" really the original aesthetic? I mean, the scans are all made decades later, after however much wear could happen to the copies, so they're not exactly how they looked in the '80s anyway.

Edited by NotVeryKnightly, 21 February 2020 - 02:09 AM.


#13432 Nevermore

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Posted 21 February 2020 - 04:49 AM

I asked this on the Wiki and am raising it here too.

 

I've been wondering something about the name of Black Roritchi (the gold redeco of Fasttrack who came with BlackZarak). Since the "Roritchi' part of his name is written as ロリッチ in Katakana, shouldn't his name instead be "Black Roricchi" since the small ッ is used to double the next character's consonant sound (In this case, it turns the "chi" of チ into "cchi") and does not universally function like a letter T sound?

 

I've searched Google for リッチ without ロ just to see what might be transliterated that way, and it alternatively gives me "Ricci" and "rich". ロリッチ gives me "Lolich". 


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#13433 Nevermore

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Posted 23 February 2020 - 06:17 PM

Why does Siege have its own section on the main page, but not Earthrise?


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Posted 23 February 2020 - 09:22 PM

So I dont have an account to edit the wiki, nor do I know if this has ever been discussed. But, we watched The Secret of Omega tonight since my son got OS for his birthday.

All four of us literally stopped, laughed out loud and missed the next few minutes of the episode during the attack on San Francisco. Specifically...Big Als.

Told my wife I was going to see what the wiki said about this...establishment...only to discover there is no page for such a *unique enterprise*, clearly a part of the G1 cartoon continuity. 😂
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Posted 28 February 2020 - 01:28 PM

Spoiler-tagging since the following pertains to Cyberverse Season 3's finale.

 

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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

#13436 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 28 February 2020 - 02:15 PM

I keep finding panels from the Marvel comics that I replace better versions. What we have are usually A) old, crappy scans from the original Marvel issues, which have really piss-poor color saturation and contrasts, or B) digital versions from the IDW Classics reprints, which have new, superior remastered coloring, but are sometimes recolored and are generally lacking the textures, which are part of what made the Marvel comics what they are.

 

What I'm usually doing is taking the scans of the originals, the UK versions and the IDW reprints, comparing them for differences, and then usually creating a layered composite that has the better coloring of the IDW versions (or at least the UK versions), but keeps the textures and thus looks more "authentic". Obviously, for comparisons that are explicitly intended to highlight the differences between two versions, I can only create a composite from versions that are not different in terms of the source material prior to printing.

 

Some examples:

attachicon.gifDISintegratedCircuits-WheeljackIDWreprint.jpg attachicon.gifBrokenGlass-Kupchanges.jpg attachicon.gifBridgetoNowhere uk reprint.jpg attachicon.gifDelboOptimusFalling.jpg attachicon.gifDelboAirStrikePatrolSwipe1.jpg attachicon.gifDelboAirStrikePatrolSwipe2.jpg attachicon.gifDelboPMPrimeSwipe.jpg attachicon.gifDelboSelfSwipe1.jpg

 

Thoughts?

 

Bluntly, I'm against creating new images. Go with the official ones.



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Posted 28 February 2020 - 05:56 PM

I keep finding panels from the Marvel comics that I replace better versions. What we have are usually A) old, crappy scans from the original Marvel issues, which have really piss-poor color saturation and contrasts, or B) digital versions from the IDW Classics reprints, which have new, superior remastered coloring, but are sometimes recolored and are generally lacking the textures, which are part of what made the Marvel comics what they are.
 
What I'm usually doing is taking the scans of the originals, the UK versions and the IDW reprints, comparing them for differences, and then usually creating a layered composite that has the better coloring of the IDW versions (or at least the UK versions), but keeps the textures and thus looks more "authentic". Obviously, for comparisons that are explicitly intended to highlight the differences between two versions, I can only create a composite from versions that are not different in terms of the source material prior to printing.
 
Some examples:
attachicon.gifDISintegratedCircuits-WheeljackIDWreprint.jpg attachicon.gifBrokenGlass-Kupchanges.jpg attachicon.gifBridgetoNowhere uk reprint.jpg attachicon.gifDelboOptimusFalling.jpg attachicon.gifDelboAirStrikePatrolSwipe1.jpg attachicon.gifDelboAirStrikePatrolSwipe2.jpg attachicon.gifDelboPMPrimeSwipe.jpg attachicon.gifDelboSelfSwipe1.jpg
 
Thoughts?

 
Bluntly, I'm against creating new images. Go with the official ones.
"Official" as in? Marvel? Titan? IDW?

Edited by Nevermore, 28 February 2020 - 05:57 PM.

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#13438 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 28 February 2020 - 06:07 PM

 

 

I keep finding panels from the Marvel comics that I replace better versions. What we have are usually A) old, crappy scans from the original Marvel issues, which have really piss-poor color saturation and contrasts, or B) digital versions from the IDW Classics reprints, which have new, superior remastered coloring, but are sometimes recolored and are generally lacking the textures, which are part of what made the Marvel comics what they are.
 
What I'm usually doing is taking the scans of the originals, the UK versions and the IDW reprints, comparing them for differences, and then usually creating a layered composite that has the better coloring of the IDW versions (or at least the UK versions), but keeps the textures and thus looks more "authentic". Obviously, for comparisons that are explicitly intended to highlight the differences between two versions, I can only create a composite from versions that are not different in terms of the source material prior to printing.
 
Some examples:
attachicon.gifDISintegratedCircuits-WheeljackIDWreprint.jpg attachicon.gifBrokenGlass-Kupchanges.jpg attachicon.gifBridgetoNowhere uk reprint.jpg attachicon.gifDelboOptimusFalling.jpg attachicon.gifDelboAirStrikePatrolSwipe1.jpg attachicon.gifDelboAirStrikePatrolSwipe2.jpg attachicon.gifDelboPMPrimeSwipe.jpg attachicon.gifDelboSelfSwipe1.jpg
 
Thoughts?

 
Bluntly, I'm against creating new images. Go with the official ones.
"Official" as in? Marvel? Titan? IDW?

 

 

Personally, I'm going to stay agnostic on that question. Just not something cobbled together by editing them together.



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Posted 28 February 2020 - 06:40 PM

I think the "archiving" argument doesn't make sense. The wiki isn't storing scans of entire issues and it's not its job to. Just pick the best quality source (Titan, I guess?) and go with it.

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Posted 08 March 2020 - 02:31 PM

Finally got around to updating the licensed vehicle alternate modes page with The Last Knight, Bumblebee, Studio Series and Earthrise, in the process fixing some inaccuracies (namely the broad claim that "various toys" of Shatter and Dropkick were licensed for the Bumblebee movie line, when in fact the only licensed toys of those characters were released under Studio Series, which is a separate line).

 

Interesting discovery: The only licensed versions of TLK Berserker, Crosshairs, Drift, Cogman, Hot Rod and Hound were the Premier Edition Deluxe and Voyager Class toys. All other toys of these characters (Hot Rod and Hound, in particular, had several more) were unlicensed. Overall, Bumblebee and Optimus Prime were the only characters of which almost all toys were licensed, though the Allspark Tech subline had no vehicle licenses at all.


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