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@  Steevy Maximus : (25 January 2020 - 10:01 PM)

But when was the last time you saw a major retailer (since TRU) actually allot shelf space for a Transformers Titan? Or the Vintage Collection Poe X-Wing? There's clearly some sort of disparity between "girls" and "boys" toys that give companies justification to create $100+ items in the girls segment in FAR greater frequency than in boys.

@  fourteenwings : (25 January 2020 - 12:56 AM)

"how expensive they were" Tell that to L.O.L. O.M.G. and the $129 Amazing Surprise (I mean I guess when it comes to the toy aisle Power Rangers isn't a juggernaut like L.O.L.)

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:18 PM)

I think the big reason we didn't see the actual combining Zords at retail was because of how expensive they were. It would cost $100 to get enough of them to make a Megazord, $160+ if you want the Ultrazord. Or parents could just get the dang Ultrazord for $40 even if it didn't combine.

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

Because they are "kids toys" not "collector toys"

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 03:27 PM)

1) I don't have Target. 2) can't go into my walmart. I'm surprised Hasbro won't sell the toys on Pulse

@  Bass X0 : (24 January 2020 - 02:43 PM)

I dreamt my phone was ringing and woke up to answer it.

@  Sabrblade : (24 January 2020 - 02:05 PM)

The Lightning Collection figures, the smaller normal-sized Beast Morphers Ranger/enemy/Beast-Bot figures, the role-play morpher and weapon toys, and the simplistic non-combining megazord toys have all been very easy to find at various Targets and Walmarts. It's only been the actual combining Beast Morphers zord toys (which are bizarrely being sold individually this time) that have been hard to find in stores.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:49 PM)

Thought I do question Hasbro's almost reluctance to have the toys available anywhere.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 01:44 PM)

i've been trying to sell mine for weeks...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 01:37 PM)

I hadn't opened mine yet, but from what I've seen, the general agreement is that the Beast Morpher zords are much better than Bandais.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

I'm guessing if they're going to do anything on the level of Legacy Zords, it's being discussed behind NDAs at Toy Fair

@  Rodimus Supreme : (24 January 2020 - 10:38 AM)

Lightning Collection is good, and they're taking their sweet time on making Zords that are better than Bandai's Zords.

@  ThunderWear : (24 January 2020 - 10:34 AM)

So, what's the general PR fandom consensus of the Hasbro run of PR so far? I pretty much stepped out of the community after I got the Bandai Legacy zords I wanted.

@  Paladin : (24 January 2020 - 08:46 AM)

that would require someone to BUY Hasbro PR toys...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 07:17 AM)

Well hopefully see some cool PR stuff. Wish BBTS sold Hasbro PR toys.

@  fourteenwings : (24 January 2020 - 07:01 AM)

February 22nd through 25th, I feel like it was earlier last year...

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (24 January 2020 - 06:32 AM)

When is NY TF?

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:43 PM)

I don't know about Hasbro's general policy but I know everybody was on lockdown for Frozen II, which included both LEGO and Hasbro. Plus, I'm guessing everybody is holding off PR for NY Toy Fair? Overall, it's best to remember that Toy Fairs are for buyers, not fans.

@  fourteenwings : (23 January 2020 - 11:41 PM)

LEGO has been doing this for ages, including sending cease and desists when outlets get leaked images.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:42 PM)

And then they ended up selling off the brand, so I guess I wasn't the only one.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:41 PM)

Last time a toy brand I followed tightened down on toy fair and all the invited guests posted glowing reviews of what they saw, I ended up being disappointed as heck.

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:34 PM)

JediNews UK basically said they got a walkthrough of Lego's showcase...but were legally bound to NOT talk about anything, much less take pics.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 10:24 PM)

I wondered why I had seen basically nothing newsworthy from the event

@  Steevy Maximus : (23 January 2020 - 10:14 PM)

Word is that Hasbro and Lego have their UK Toy Fair stuff on MAJOR lockdown. Full NDAs and everything.

@  ThunderWear : (23 January 2020 - 09:28 PM)

Seeing people say the $0.99 + $20 shipping item is cheaper than the $19.99 + free shipping item and getting tons of likes for it... I just don't know anymore.

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 09:11 PM)

if you havent already, y'all check your walmarts clearance aisle. i found siege six shot for $5. course, it could just be my walmart, but never hurts to look

@  Vexwing : (23 January 2020 - 07:20 PM)

Candlejack is going to need more ro

@  Patch : (23 January 2020 - 06:30 PM)

I thought you had to type out Candlejack's full name bef

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 02:46 PM)

I typed in the wrong tab.

@  Paladin : (23 January 2020 - 02:32 PM)

must've been the works of Candleja

@  Telly : (23 January 2020 - 02:06 PM)

looks like maximus wiped himself out mid-sentence

@  Maximus Ambus : (23 January 2020 - 08:42 AM)

Disregard this.

@  TheMightyMol... : (22 January 2020 - 06:58 PM)

Bold of you all to assume we won't wipe ourselves out in 50 years.

@  Benbot : (22 January 2020 - 04:27 PM)

There will be no UBI, people will just live in a ditch while they celebrate owning the libs.

@  Rycochet : (22 January 2020 - 03:24 PM)

In 50 years, retail will be dead because all stores are staffless fully automated operations controlled by Amazon. The UBI will be less than a fifth of what it actually costs to live after two decades of cuts and.a steadfast refusal to match inflation.

@  Maximus Ambus : (22 January 2020 - 02:55 PM)

In fifty years retail will be a thing of the past through robots, printers and Universal Basic Income.

@  Rodimus Supreme : (21 January 2020 - 11:16 AM)

Big retailers just don't want money anymore, so let's not give them any,

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:12 PM)

This place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned.

@  Maximus Ambus : (20 January 2020 - 03:38 PM)

I took one step beyond the outer limits to the twilight zone.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 10:19 AM)

All retail is basically the same.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (20 January 2020 - 10:00 AM)

Walmart just needs to go bankrupt already.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:19 AM)

They didn't put the 35th anniversary stuff back out until after new year. I'm no retail expert, but I feel like having stock on the shelf is better than the back. Especially toys at christmas time.

@  ThunderWear : (20 January 2020 - 07:18 AM)

Yeah, my local walmart took away the 35th anniversary endcap weeks before Christmas and left the Transformer section empty well past Christmas.

@  TheMightyMol... : (20 January 2020 - 04:44 AM)

Mine only has the 35th Anniversary Voyagers. A whole lot of them.

@  Telly : (19 January 2020 - 11:35 PM)

just be happy your walmart even stocks voyagers. mine doesnt

@  Steevy Maximus : (19 January 2020 - 08:53 PM)

Figures that Walmart finally restocks Studio Voyagers...with Wave ONE

@  ThunderWear : (19 January 2020 - 09:27 AM)

I snagged Rainmakers for half off.  They make me want jolly ranchers.

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 04:21 PM)

I was using my account on another comptuer, and oddly it seemed to default to $US rather than converting it.

@  TM2-Megatron : (18 January 2020 - 02:02 PM)

You should be able to set eBay to display in your local currency, although personally I like to know the actual currency the item is listed in so I know if I need to account for forex fees or not

@  Trpodeca : (18 January 2020 - 06:34 AM)

I'd also like to take the opportunity to say I despise Ebay for showing the list prices in US money.


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#13401 Fear or Courage

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 02:04 PM

That seems like a lot of words for something that really doesn't matter.

That's it. That's the TF Wiki.



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Posted 16 January 2020 - 04:03 PM

This is reminding me of another series where the characters had Earth vehicle modes before they even knew Earth existed: Gobots.
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Posted 16 January 2020 - 04:15 PM

This is reminding me of another series where the characters had Earth vehicle modes before they even knew Earth existed: Gobots.

 

In fairness, that was one thing Go-bots got right:  It was all set in present day and Cy-Kill went to Earth intentionally to enact his plan with an already-established ally (Braxis).

 

The four million year thing ultimately ended up being a case of writing oneself into a corner.


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Posted 16 January 2020 - 06:54 PM

Also, the GoBots had been visiting Earth at least as far back as when the Nazca lines were made, so even most of the flashbacks weren't set "before they even knew Earth existed".



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Posted 18 January 2020 - 05:17 AM

One thing I noticed going through the movie storyboards again (first time round I was just looking for deleted scenes).  Sequence 26, which is mostly the fight with the Junkions, is the most heavily revised.  The entire Wreck-gar vs Springer fight is added in the revisions, and has no equivalent in the script.  Given the late date this sequence was signed off, it's entirely possible that the movie was basing the fight on the animated section of Springer's toy ad, instead of the other way around. 


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Posted 19 January 2020 - 11:49 AM

Would it be noteworthy that the super-iconic moment from The Transformers: The Movie where Optimus Prime charges into battle in truck mode, then transforms and make a dramatic leap into the air while still transforming and then fires his ion blaster, all shown from a low angle, resembles very similar scenes from two different commercials, one of them being the very first commercial for the Transformers ever?

 

See for yourself:

 

0:24 here:

 

0:07 here:


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Posted 19 January 2020 - 02:05 PM

Perhaps, but it is amusing to think that someone along the chain realised "Oh crap!  Hasbro want us to promote this triple changer toy and we've managed to storyboard this entire movie without showcasing said toy triple-changing once!"


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Posted 20 January 2020 - 04:26 PM

Would it be noteworthy that the super-iconic moment from The Transformers: The Movie where Optimus Prime charges into battle in truck mode, then transforms and make a dramatic leap into the air while still transforming and then fires his ion blaster, all shown from a low angle, resembles very similar scenes from two different commercials, one of them being the very first commercial for the Transformers ever?

 

See for yourself:

 

0:24 here:

 

0:07 here:

I don't feel like the TF:TM scene is particularly so much a nod to this as it just a generally really dynamic way to showcase a leader coming on to the battlefield with some anime flare or a storyboard artist being shared between the movie and the commercials just reusing prior ideas.  This was pretty early in Transformers' lifespan to be consciously self-referential yet.


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#13409 wadapan

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Posted 21 January 2020 - 03:56 PM

I don't feel like the TF:TM scene is particularly so much a nod to this as it just a generally really dynamic way to showcase a leader coming on to the battlefield with some anime flare or a storyboard artist being shared between the movie and the commercials just reusing prior ideas.  This was pretty early in Transformers' lifespan to be consciously self-referential yet.

 

except that's not really what's been argued here at all? It's not about homage, it's about - like you say - writers/animators/whoever reusing existing stuff. Like, these people were given access to certain reference materials, and then specifically used bits of those materials as the basis for whatever they were working on - something which we know happened all the time in the early years of the franchise (and to this day). The best example that comes to my mind is how the stock photos and package artwork given to artists at the time had a very strong influence on the character models

 

that's not to say that I'm convinced either way in this particular case - all three clips do look pretty similar, but it could just be parallel evolution as you suggest. It'd be interesting to see a side-by-side comparison, or the footage from all three versions overlaid, to see if there are any unique details that line up



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Posted 21 January 2020 - 05:16 PM

I can easily believe the people behind TFTM never saw either of those clips, and yet still came up with that scene independently.

 

The broad strokes are vaguely similar, but not remotely enough to claim "Because 'A' came first, 'B' must have been made with 'A' in mind".



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Posted 21 January 2020 - 07:29 PM

maybe if the early ones also had fire coming out the ass

it's just a standard jump otherwise



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