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@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:48 PM)

Even worse when I can produce those verifiable facts at a later point, and then the other person simply claims the argument was the other way round (as in, I was actually arguing their position and vice versa).

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:47 PM)

I can argue with people about my versus their memory of events when verifiable facts are not readily available, though, and I get really annoyed when I'm capable of presenting a precise, step-by-step summary with multiple key points that can be used for future verification, and the other person just goes "nope, wrong" without going into detail.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:45 PM)

I forget things, and I misremember things. But when presented with verifiable facts, my reaction is more like "Huh, could have sworn it was like that", not "this reality is not my own".

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 06:43 PM)

I have an extremely good memory (which I have proven time and again), and even I can be mistaken.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (10 August 2020 - 06:40 PM)

Might be worth pointing out that it only became "Mandela Effect" and not just "I remembered this wrong" when a conspiracy theorist insisted it was proof of alternate timelines.

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

Incorrectly remembering Nelson Mandela's fate may be uniquely American... but is it really that strange to get South African political history wrong when you're no where near South Africa?

@  Otaku : (10 August 2020 - 06:29 PM)

I always assumed the Mandela Effect was a "human thing", not an American thing.

@  wonko the sane? : (10 August 2020 - 02:03 PM)

Then there are people who outright manufacture memories for whatever reason.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (10 August 2020 - 01:13 PM)

The human brain is so flaky that it is extremely unlikely that a given person does NOT have any false memories.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:05 PM)

Perhaps it's simple word association the movie Sinbad and then our minds apply the same memories to a man named Sinbad.

@  OverDrive73 : (10 August 2020 - 01:04 PM)

The Mandela Effect is the same as people remembering Sinbad in a movie where he played a genie... Of which he never did.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:36 AM)

People that believe Mandela Effect things would rather come up with any number of reasons as to why their version doesn't have any actual evidence(like alternate timelines collapsing into our own) than just admit they remembered something wrong

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Sort of. It's more that when presented with a verifiable fact, they double down because it's what they believe instead of changing their minds

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

"I could have sworn that ______."

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 August 2020 - 09:25 AM)

I'm not arguing with either of those two statements, but they're not really connected. Mandela Effect is, to oversimplify, people being widely mistaken about what they think *is* a verifiable fact. Nothing to do with opinions.

@  MidnightFox : (10 August 2020 - 08:52 AM)

Pretty sure the Mandela Effect in general is an American thing. Opinion > Verifiable Facts is sadly a pretty American thing

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:27 AM)

Ask these people how Apartheid ended according to their recollection, and I'm sure they'll draw a blank.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:25 AM)

You got two black anti-Apartheid activists who were imprisoned by the oppressive regime. One died, the other was Nelson Mandela. It's not a far stretch that Americans who don't know many details about the history of other countries would mix up the two.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:24 AM)

My own theory is that these people are simply mixing up Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko, another South African anti-Apartheid activist, who did indeed die in police custody in 1977. There was an Oscar-nominated movie about his life starring Denzel Washington that came out in 1987, the same time frame these people claim remembering Mandela dying.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:17 AM)

I met a few people from South Africa, and they either never heard of the phenomenon at all, or only know of it from the internet. Apparently, it's completely unknown in South Africa, and it might even be entirely limited to the United States.

@  Nevermore : (10 August 2020 - 04:16 AM)

So does anyone remember the "Mandela Effect"? I'm talking specifically about the original case where many people vividly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the 1980s.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (10 August 2020 - 03:16 AM)

Crisis of Corona.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 06:16 PM)

Which crisis crossover are we on now? I lost track.

@  Rycochet : (09 August 2020 - 05:18 PM)

Much of the past decade has been the part of the comic series where less than stellar authors have driven the series into the ground and the editors are getting ready to either do a big multi issue crossover, leading to a reboot.

@  Bass X0 : (09 August 2020 - 02:28 PM)

At this point I've just decided to consider 2020 "not canon."

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 August 2020 - 02:18 PM)

'member Pepperidge Farm?

@  Maximus Ambus : (09 August 2020 - 02:10 PM)

Before the 'member berries there was Pepperidge farm. Pepperidge farm remembers.

@  OverDrive73 : (09 August 2020 - 12:21 PM)

>>>Shameless Plug<<< FYI. posted the last part of Quest for Tires in Allspark Pictures

@  SG Roadbuster : (08 August 2020 - 01:53 PM)

@Nevermore yes.

@  Nevermore : (08 August 2020 - 09:11 AM)

Is $30 a good deal for Subscription Service Breakdown?

@  Trpodeca : (08 August 2020 - 06:24 AM)

Oh dear God no. Twitter has changed it's default layout to the terrible new one. Why waste so much space on the left?

@  Steevy Maximus : (07 August 2020 - 08:28 PM)

@Bass X0, yeah, the Joe comic got REALLY solid in the upper 20s to the Cobra Civil War. It's interesting to see how well the Joe comic has aged relative to the cartoon. Where as I feel the opposite is true of Transformers

@  -LittleAutob... : (07 August 2020 - 03:58 PM)

Its so fun watching past TF Conventions.

@  Bass X0 : (07 August 2020 - 02:20 PM)

I've been reading classic 80s G.I. Joe lately. Its still decent even though I don't have any nostalgia towards it.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 08:50 AM)

Think of it as Adam West Batman instead. ;)

@  wonko the sane? : (07 August 2020 - 07:49 AM)

That sounds more like the flash, or maybe booster gold than batman.

@  Sabrblade : (07 August 2020 - 12:27 AM)

They would get bored fighting each other and instead decide to take an epic cross-country road trip together.

@  RichardT1977 : (06 August 2020 - 08:57 PM)

What would happen if Batman were to fight Squirrel Girl?

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 09:03 PM)

Unless you count the Mask vs Lobo special, but that's less a duel and more a duet.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (04 August 2020 - 08:52 PM)

My favorite crossover fight was Thor vs Shazam/Captain Marvel. Early in the fight, Thor discovers that Billy Batson needs lightning to transform, and being a god of lightning he simply denies him that.

@  Sabrblade : (04 August 2020 - 08:46 PM)

Let's see a fight between Death Battle and Super Power Beat Down

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

Which Lobo later claimed was because he was paid to take a dive. Yes, really.

@  TheMightyMol... : (04 August 2020 - 06:15 PM)

And then there's the times it's been decided by a fan vote, which is how we get things like Lobo (who can go toe-to-toe with Superman at full strength) losing to Wolverine.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

And then there are the "but my favorite characater will totes win because I say so" people.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:49 PM)

I mean, there are some people who really approach this from a somewhat reasonable standpoint, coming up with a plausible scenario and a setting that creates a fair environment that doesn't favor one character.

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:46 PM)

My favorite stupid "why would they even fight each other" question recently was about three versions of Optimus Prime (G1, Bayverse and Aligned).

@  Nevermore : (04 August 2020 - 05:45 PM)

Batman obviously can beat everyone. Even Galactus. He's Batman. He's so smart, he'll just throw a Batarang and hit the weak spot at Galactus's forehead, knocking him out instantaneously.

@  wonko the sane? : (04 August 2020 - 11:37 AM)

It's almost like all drama is just manufactured pissing contests to keep us all entertained and distracted. :p

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (04 August 2020 - 10:16 AM)

Or they could go White Ranger vs Scorpion route and have both win. ;P

@  ▲ndrusi : (04 August 2020 - 09:35 AM)

Besides, we all know the answer is nearly always "they fight to a standstill and then team up against a common enemy."


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#1 Walky

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 11:35 PM

The last thread hit 200 pages, and so I'm making this new thread

 

Also because I need to apologize for these captions.


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Posted 25 May 2014 - 11:40 PM

Fully deserved.

 

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 03:22 AM

Allow me to celebrate the new thread by making an article about Basketball.

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 06:37 AM

Okay, is anyone buying this, uh, 'reference' that Protoman put on RID #29?

Jazz being called "Jaws" is actually a nod to Jazz super fan Wendel "Jawz" Arthur James, who has voiced Jazz in multiple Transformers convention script readings.


Doesn't reeeeally seem like know Barber would know/care about.

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 07:10 AM

Hrm, sounds plausible at least to me. Ask Barber on Twitter maybe?

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:53 AM

Question about the page for the Vortexx programming block.

 

In addition to airing the first season of Prime, they've also aired shows for two other Hasbro (et al) properties: Chuck & Friends and B-Daman Crossfire

 

The former was also shown on The Hub, but the latter was Vortexx-exclusive. 

 

Would it be worth mentioning these two shows on the page? Given the three of these together, I'm wondering if Hasbro isn't (or wasn't) trying to partner with the folks behind Vortexx to get a presence on "broadcast" television again. 



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 10:58 AM

No.



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Posted 26 May 2014 - 01:06 PM

Though, speaking of the Vortexx page, there ought to be a mention of when the run of Prime episode ended, so I'll go put that in.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 02:58 PM

Karyuudo's release of the Car Robots sub has set me to work picking up where I left off with TV Nihon's subs and chronicling the difference between CR and RID. Tonight's installments: Mirage's Betrayal and Skid-Z's Choice



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Posted 27 May 2014 - 08:39 PM

Trying to do the page for colorist Jeong Joo Park, but I've run into an odd snag.

 

When I tried to pull up information on Google, the top link was Park's Comic Book Database page, but the top image was for that of a Korean actress with the same name. 

 

It would appear that this is a surprisingly common name, as LinkedIn has three people with that name and they're all corporate executives. 

 

If I could get it, I'd like some help trying to figure out if any of these people are the same as the artist in question.

 

Thanks. 



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 12:19 AM

Karyuudo's release of the Car Robots sub has set me to work picking up where I left off with TV Nihon's subs and chronicling the difference between CR and RID. Tonight's installments: Mirage's Betrayal and Skid-Z's Choice

I'd suggest, at some point, going back over the ones you used TV-Nihon's subs just in case there's any notable difference between the TV-N subbed versions and the Karyuudo subbed versions of those episodes. :)


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:42 PM

Is TFWiki participating in the Hall of Fame voting this year?


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QUOTE(Bass X0 @ Aug 17 2013, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:44 PM

I would think so, but Monzo tends to put the page up, and maybe he's busy.



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:47 PM

He could be DEAD!



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 04:27 PM

http://tfwiki.net/wi...ditions/Entries

 

See?



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Posted 28 May 2014 - 05:35 PM

Hey, guys, somebody on the talk page for the 3rd Blackthorn TF in 3-D, who apparently worked for Blackthorne, told us who Noodles is.

 

Think we can get any more information out of him?



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Posted 29 May 2014 - 04:51 PM

Onward we go, with "Tow-Line Goes Haywire" and "The Ultimate Robot Warrior."



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Posted 01 June 2014 - 05:14 AM

So, if we're going to go forward with the notion of 'Transformers (2014 toyline)', could someone define for me what exactly its purview is?

Everything with the red-n-white packaging that isn't part of some else like Kre-O or Construct-Bots?

And I guess we'd break the page down with sections for stuff with the AOE tag and stuff without (like the dollar store Legends)?

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 08:35 AM

So I was going through RiD articles for some research and came across a certain episode page.

 

I saw the first synopsis image had no caption and....it HAD to be done.

 

http://tfwiki.net/wi...s_to_the_Rescue



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 09:02 AM

So, this is more for Abates than anyone else... Are we adding continuity designators to every page now or something?

 

I'm assuming I'm missing some other reason why Gra and Ida were called out with (Prime) continuity identifiers?





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