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@  wonko the sane? : (18 November 2017 - 08:37 AM)

You won't be at school or work anymore... so mitigated success.

@  TheMightyMol... : (17 November 2017 - 05:21 PM)

Just don't try to plug yourself into an outlet. It won't end well.

@  Bass X0 : (17 November 2017 - 04:57 PM)

Trying to stay awake at work or school is a lot like using your controller when it's on low battery

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:31 AM)

If you're used to doing it with tabs, that makes sense. It doesn't feel weird for me.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:28 AM)

Also, it just feels weird if switching between webpages uses the same actions as switching between programs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:21 AM)

I switch between different things on the browser and click on various plugins and stuff far more often than switching from program to program.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 10:19 AM)

Yeah I'm mostly just venting from frustration rather than trying to convince anyone, though @NotVeryNightly I will point out that the windows for the other programs I'm running are at the bottom of the screen as well.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 10:09 AM)

Tabs are on the top, near the address bar, browser tools, plugins and whatnot so the cursor will be there frequently anyway. Switching windows would require going down the screen.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 10:03 AM)

I mean, you do you. No bigs. You've just got a fairly unique stance that surprised me.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 09:54 AM)

I haven't seen words on the bottom bar of the screen since XP.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:13 AM)

All of which is put on the point that I don't care if people want to use tabs, I just want the option to not have them present for me on my browser.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:12 AM)

@Shrug- A quick glance at the bottom of the screen shows me what is open and where. Load times are basically so trivial that the load indicator on a tab is something I didn't notice until you mentioned it. The "which instance is playing noise" is a fair point but has basically only really been approaching meaningful for me maybe twice in all the time tabs have existed.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:07 AM)

@NotveryKnightly- I have never encountered a situation where that is true, especially given that tabs are on the other side of the screen to the other things I'm switching through.

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 09:06 AM)

@ Nevermore- The windows at the bottom have the names of the websites on them, presuming you don't collapse them.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:08 AM)

Geez, this is reminding me of the awful pre-tab days.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

I can look at the tab to see if it hasn't finished loading yet. Now you can see which tab is playing sound, so no need to hunt through windows to find a video ad that started playing.

@  Shrug : (17 November 2017 - 08:07 AM)

And a quick glance lets me know whats open and where. No clicking multiple windows hunting for something. No waiting for some window preview to pop up (which wasn't available when tabs first started.)

@  NotVeryKnightly : (17 November 2017 - 06:03 AM)

Switching between tabs is way quicker than between windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:09 AM)

It's like having a clear structore with sub-directores, instead of just having all files on your computer stored in one giant directory.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:08 AM)

This way, I can switch between windows and then select the tab, instead of always trying to remember which window is for which website.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:07 AM)

I find one browser window with multiple tabs a lot easier to handle alongside other windows than multiple browser windows alongside other windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

I find multiple tabs a lot more comfortable than multiple windows.

@  Nevermore : (17 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

erm... no?

@  Pennpenn : (17 November 2017 - 03:26 AM)

On mobile devices and whatever I understand why tabs would be a thing, but on a full desktop browser it's just- "Hey, here's a thing that's kind of like opening a new window, but objectively worse in every practical way"

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (17 November 2017 - 01:41 AM)

Someone remind me again: which versions of the CW Hot Spot mold did not suffer from bad hip ratcheting?

@  BlackMax : (16 November 2017 - 06:33 PM)

Holy crap I just pushed the F11 key for the first time on a keyboard since about 1994.

@  Shrug : (16 November 2017 - 01:11 PM)

tabs being wretched bs is definitely an opinion I've never seen before

@  RC85747 : (16 November 2017 - 08:25 AM)

Vivaldi lets you hide the tab bar

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 07:45 AM)

Yeah but that gets rid of everything else as well.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (16 November 2017 - 07:33 AM)

Hit F11 Pennpenn

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:15 AM)

I get that people like tabs. Fine. Whatever. I just detest the fact that most current browsers don't let you have the option of just hiding the bar away so I don't have to even think about the wretched bullshit things.

@  Pennpenn : (16 November 2017 - 04:06 AM)

Does anyone know of a browser that doesn't force tabs on you? Just... any sodding browser that doesn't have tabs.

@  Telly : (16 November 2017 - 01:59 AM)

being mostly wrong is better than being TOTALLY wrong!

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 09:26 PM)

ALL HAIL THE BLESSED OCTOBUTT.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 08:24 PM)

I really hope so. All of my high school drawings and notes (Hand-written notes! God, I'm old.) from girls are in a chest in the attic of my parents house. I'll check when I visit!

@  MEDdMI : (15 November 2017 - 06:39 PM)

Do you still have those drawings?

@  BlackMax : (15 November 2017 - 06:31 PM)

I think lesbian ninjas is just an unmitigated good idea. *shrug*

@  Devcon : (15 November 2017 - 05:56 PM)

well, that and Balloon Doggies, Mr secretary

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:12 PM)

It's my crowning Allspark achievement! You're welcome.

@  Strafe : (15 November 2017 - 04:05 PM)

"Someone" being me. No mystery to it, I used to draw a lot during class when I was in high school. I came up with lesbian ninjas, which were a specialized team of assassins with amazing hair and impeccable style. I scanned some of my drawings and mentioned them a few times on the ezboard 17 years ago, and people seemed to like the idea.

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 01:05 PM)

Thanks in any case!

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 01:05 PM)

Oh, wow. That is ages ago. 

@  Telly : (15 November 2017 - 01:03 PM)

ages ago meaning when the spark was still on ezboard

@  Telly : (15 November 2017 - 01:02 PM)

i think maybe it was part of a title of a movie someone posted ages ago and the "lesbian ninja" part stood out and people just latched on to it. please note this is possibly totally and completely wrong cause my memory is terrible anymore

@  Copper Bezel : (15 November 2017 - 12:11 PM)

I don't think it's a fandom thing, I think it's an Allspark thing. Or that's been my perception. Mayhem has some lesbian ninja regulars now but I think the reference is much older. = ] 

@  Robowang : (15 November 2017 - 11:02 AM)

Who knows. I always thought it was stupid.

@  RichardT1977 : (15 November 2017 - 10:31 AM)

What is this fandom's deal with lesbian ninjas? Is it some fantheory about Nightbird or something?

@  OrionPax44 : (15 November 2017 - 08:26 AM)

Huh my phone didn't even alert me for some reason. Guess it only does on the Mayhem Discord Hangouts??

@  BlackMax : (14 November 2017 - 09:41 PM)

Telly, you are FIRED as my PR agent. :D

@  Telly : (14 November 2017 - 09:05 PM)

you all dont know what you missed. there was fun. there were games. lesbian ninjas. tang and even a couple human sacrifices.


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#9101 repowers

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 02:11 AM

I think the gallery approach is more user-friendly and better conveys the information -- as well as laying out all the different versions right next to each other so you can actually compare them.

 

For the template version -- are we talking about putting it at the start or the end of the page? Because at the start is gonna look awful, and I'm seriously against putting a little picture of Hot Rod or Dinobot at the beginning of a bunch of character pages that aren't Hot Rod or Dinobot.


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 04:16 AM

End of the page. At the start is a bad idea.

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#9103 Nevermore

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 06:09 PM

Okay, how's this attempt at explaining the cluster**** that is the TLK exclusive sublines?
http://tfwiki.net/wi...ine)#Exclusives

If it seems confusing, that's because it is. Mission to Cybertron is the only one that can be described as "business as usual".

One idea I had was to give the "international availability" stuff an optional fold-out or drop-down menu similar to the menus we have for toys with many redecos. That way the page would be more readable without losing relevant information entirely.

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"'[Foreigners] at least need to be able to speak proper German.' Okay, what the hell is that supposed to be? Proper German'? Where do they speak that? Have you ever been there? Are you German? Can you engage in a conversation in a Swabian pub? Most people from Cologne already fail at asking for directions in the Eifel region."
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Posted 10 November 2017 - 07:14 PM

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 07:44 PM

i'm getting a job at idw and writing a family guy mention into a transformers comic and you can't stop me

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 09:05 PM

hey optimus 🅱rime
"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:46 PM

So I'm not exactly a fan of Anode myself but this line in her page at the first image...

 

A literal special snowflake... ugh.

 

...seems kind of mean spirited, especially with how often "snowflake" gets thrown at queer folks.

 

Obviously it wasn't Walky who put it up there but I was wondering about it.

 

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#9108 LV!

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:54 PM

There are lots of mean-spirited barbs on the wiki, and I'm sure plenty of other writer's-pet characters would get the same treatment if they had the poor judgement to show up in a picture with a snowflake.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 07:57 PM

There are lots of mean-spirited barbs on the wiki, and I'm sure plenty of other writer's-pet characters would get the same treatment if they had the poor judgement to show up in a picture with a snowflake.

 

Like I said I don't like Anode myself, but "snowflake" gets thrown at the queer community, and especially trans people, that it seems kind of suspect.



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:19 PM

On a semirelated note, I've been sideeyeing this caption for a while now, and I think that in light of recent events we can safely axe it?
"He learned, almost too late, that man is a feeling creature and, because of it, the greatest in the universe. He learned, too late for himself, that men have to make their own way, to make their own mistakes. There can't be any gift of perfection from outside ourselves. And, when men seek such perfection, they find there's only death, fire, loss, disillusionment, the end of everything that's gone forward. Men have always sought an end to toil and misery. It can't be given; it has to be achieved. There is hope, but it has to come from inside, from man himself."

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:29 PM

....hugging yikes.


 

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 08:31 PM

There are lots of mean-spirited barbs on the wiki, and I'm sure plenty of other writer's-pet characters would get the same treatment if they had the poor judgement to show up in a picture with a snowflake.

 
Like I said I don't like Anode myself, but "snowflake" gets thrown at the queer community, and especially trans people, that it seems kind of suspect.
What if we just got rid of the "ugh" part? It would make it feel a bit less antagonistic and a bit more lighthearted, but still preserve the joke.

On a semirelated note, I've been sideeyeing this caption for a while now, and I think that in light of recent events we can safely axe it?

Uh, yeah, wow. I'm gonna cast my vote in the "kill it" category on this one.

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:44 PM



 



There are lots of mean-spirited barbs on the wiki, and I'm sure plenty of other writer's-pet characters would get the same treatment if they had the poor judgement to show up in a picture with a snowflake.

 

Like I said I don't like Anode myself, but "snowflake" gets thrown at the queer community, and especially trans people, that it seems kind of suspect.

 

 

 

I'll go ahead and second dropping the "ugh" part at the very least so as to make the caption less controversial, but that particular usage of the term is a new one on me. I just double-checked Know Your Meme, and even they don't have anything on that. 

 

Standard 'net usage is "This person thinks they're so special that they can merit special privileges, but they've done nothing to merit them and may in fact be adverse to doing what's necessary to merit them." 

 

Could that have been the intent behind the caption? 

 

edit - Yeah, and while we're at it someone may as well go ahead and change that Kiss-Play reference. 


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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:52 PM

 

 

There are lots of mean-spirited barbs on the wiki, and I'm sure plenty of other writer's-pet characters would get the same treatment if they had the poor judgement to show up in a picture with a snowflake.

 
Like I said I don't like Anode myself, but "snowflake" gets thrown at the queer community, and especially trans people, that it seems kind of suspect.
What if we just got rid of the "ugh" part? It would make it feel a bit less antagonistic and a bit more lighthearted, but still preserve the joke.

 

Yeah the "ugh" is what it takes it into "look at this dumb shit" territory, and in the caption of the main pic of a Featured Article no less. I'd get rid of the caption all together myself, but at the very least lose the "ugh." 



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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:57 PM

So that's three for dropping the "ugh" at the least. 

 

I can't seem to edit articles at the moment, or else I'd do it myself. 

 

Edit - seems to be a block on my ability to edit articles, and I don't know who to contact about that. What's the procedure? 


Edited by Fortress Ironhold, 11 November 2017 - 10:59 PM.

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:24 PM

So, uh, according to Comiclist, Lost Light #13 is coming out before Lost Light #12...


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:27 PM

Release dates more than one week away are basically placeholders. We wont know for certain what will be out on November 22 until the 15th, and so on.



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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:29 PM

McFeely's updated the original 4 issue of the Marvel Comics series. Looking pretty good.


 

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:31 PM

Release dates more than one week away are basically placeholders. We wont know for certain what will be out on November 22 until the 15th, and so on.


Sure, but it doesn't usually schedule issues before the preceding issue...

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 03:49 PM

McFeely's updated the original 4 issue of the Marvel Comics series. Looking pretty good.

 

I was just going to re-read the Marvel series for fun but apparently I'm a friggin' idiot who can't stop himself.





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