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@  Waspinator : (21 August 2017 - 11:02 PM)

Thankfully, Dracula's castle didn't escape the eclipse this time.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:41 PM)

In retaliation, President Trump threatens to nuke the moon.

@  Nevermore : (21 August 2017 - 09:40 PM)

This just in: ISIS claims responsibility for the eclipse.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Which left like a hundred disappointed middle schoolers.

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Where I'm located got 95% eclipse. Which lacked a worthwhile climax. I really should have driven into it, but I planned on going to my science teacher wife's school thing that got cancelled last minute.

@  TM2-Megatron : (21 August 2017 - 03:44 PM)

I was considering trying to get the day off for it and driving down south to the US far enough that I could see the total eclipse, but after looking into it it seems like there's another total eclipse coming up in 2024 where the totality will be visible just 45 minutes south-west of me, so I figure I'll wait it out

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 03:30 PM)

don't worry, social media didn't.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2017 - 02:59 PM)

shoot... I forgot all about the eclipse.

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2017 - 02:36 PM)

lewd

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2017 - 01:30 PM)

i wanted a peek at the sun's peak too.

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 01:02 PM)

Just caught a peak of the 'bitten' sun. COOL!!

@  Noideaforaname : (21 August 2017 - 12:46 PM)

I got my cereal box eclipse viewer ready. Hopefully these clouds part...

@  Dracula : (21 August 2017 - 09:44 AM)

well I'm supposed to be permanently sealed in a dimensional rift today so I've gotta stay on guard

@  Diecast : (21 August 2017 - 09:38 AM)

Any of you nerds going outside today?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2017 - 07:52 AM)

"Would have been?" Isn't he still on the Batgirl thing?

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2017 - 07:46 AM)

It probably wouldn't be worse but it sure would have been really samey to everything else he's done.

@  Paladin : (21 August 2017 - 06:42 AM)

i am still not convinced he could do a worse job with Batgirl than Bruce Timm already did.

@  Pennpenn : (21 August 2017 - 03:42 AM)

The thing to remember about Madman is that they are often more enthusiastic than they are reliable.

@  2017 : (21 August 2017 - 12:01 AM)

Yeah, I'm pretty surprised.

@  Maruten : (20 August 2017 - 10:13 PM)

This stuff I think. http://www.vulture.c...-hypocrite.html

@  Confuzor : (20 August 2017 - 10:05 PM)

The what now?

@  2017 : (20 August 2017 - 09:39 PM)

This news about Joss Whedon sure was a thing to wake up to.

@  Sabrblade : (20 August 2017 - 06:59 PM)

To back up to the original question about Scramble City's existence in regards to the English-language cartoon continuity, the pack-in comic that came with the Australian DVD boxed set released by Madman did feature a timeline of events that included a point in history titles "Scramble City", so that comic may at least want us to "pretend" that Scramble City happened in the cartoon continuity. But then again, that same comic also used the Marvel Comics' asteroid crisis as the true reason for the Ark's launch, and included the Beast Wars as being unambiguously part of this timeline, so make of that comic's timeline what you will.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:16 AM)

And unlike Takara's JG1 that has been steadily evolving and passing itself down from writer to writer in more-or-less smooth transition, anyone going back now to Hasbro's G1 does feel a bit more like changing history rather than reviving or continuing it.

@  NightViper : (20 August 2017 - 09:11 AM)

Editors at Fun Pub didn't feel it was right to try to "fix" or otherwise change or alter other writers' works. Which is why everything Fun Pub-written became its own stream (Animated was written by the same creative team as the show, so it's one of the very few stories still set in its original continuity). So rather than write words into the original creative team's mouths, Wings only sought to offer one possible solution to the Constructicons weirdness.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (19 August 2017 - 08:24 PM)

Too bad there weren't that many Wings stories. On the other hand, JG1 is still continuing with stories!

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:10 PM)

Wings is obviously not cartoon continuity, but is heavily indebted to it.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 06:09 PM)

Basically what my original point was that continuities based on the original cartoon but not actually a part of it have used what Pennpenn originally said.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:42 PM)

I get what you mean, but the wording is awful. It's not possible for Wings to "alter" or "destroy" something it was never part of, nor really interacted with.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 05:40 PM)

It didn't "alter the existing continuity". It's an entirely new one that left the cartoon's continuity exactly as it ever was.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 05:24 PM)

didn't it take the original cartoon continuity but change parts of it to make a new continuity? i said i'd have preferred it stayed within the original cartoon continuity instead of altering the existing continuity. thats what i would have done. stories would have been written around the existing stories.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 04:24 PM)

Wings can't "destroy it even further" when it was never the cartoon continuity in the first place.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:57 PM)

The problem is that it isn't really fixable without redoing it from the ground up. Or going into insane retcons and rewrites, which A) is about the same thing, and B) is kinda Takara's thing.

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 03:22 PM)

I find its better to fix a broken continuity than to destroy it even further.

@  TheMightyMol... : (19 August 2017 - 03:06 PM)

The cartoon couldn't even stay consistent with the cartoon, so why worry when something else can't, either?

@  Bass X0 : (19 August 2017 - 02:53 PM)

I never connected with the whole "Wings is similar to the cartoon continuity but several things are different" thing they had going on. they should really have done it so that it stayed in continuity with the cartoon but focused on the off-screen events prior, during and after the cartoon stories.

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 10:42 AM)

Not like it's ever relevant anyway.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 10:00 AM)

I mean, it doesn't make sense otherwise, regardless of how official particular fiction is.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (19 August 2017 - 09:57 AM)

Wings is officially not really cartoon continuity, though.

@  Spacewarp : (19 August 2017 - 09:55 AM)

@Pennpenn: There is some fiction that does actually use the whole "they were rebuilt on Earth" explanation. The Fun Pub Wings stuff comes to mind.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM)

Oh absolutely

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 05:00 AM)

point is, the cartoon's continuity was hugged to begin with.

@  Pennpenn : (19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM)

My brain usually parses that as "Constructicons built him on contract or something so weren't evil then, and Megatron meant rebuilt in Heavy Metal War". Yeah it's a stretch, but whatever

@  unluckiness : (19 August 2017 - 03:16 AM)

Just like the evil constructicons built Megatron then turned good and then were robosmashed back to evil and then somehow built on Earth.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 06:28 PM)

Though to be fair, Japanese continuity itself did not reconcile how Dinosaurer was destroyed in the 1980s and rebuilt in 2010 until the Unite Warriors manga of 2017.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (18 August 2017 - 05:45 PM)

Also, Scramble City has Trypticon in existence while the English version had Trypticon built in 2005 in season 3.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (18 August 2017 - 04:15 PM)

English and Japanese dubs of the cartoon are officially different continuities from each other, so...

@  Bass X0 : (18 August 2017 - 04:07 PM)

Is Scramble City canon or in continuity with the U.S. 80s Transformers cartoon despite not being dubbed?

@  TheMightyMol... : (18 August 2017 - 03:10 PM)

Make it a link instead of just pasting the URL.

@  Evac : (18 August 2017 - 02:56 PM)

If I could post youtube links without them becoming videos in the box, I'd link to the "parrot singing 'Let The Bodies Hit The Floor'" video.


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#21 Jalaguy

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 09:13 AM

I believe they might've shown up in one of the Japanese Kre-O comics, and thus will at some point have (Kre-O) pages too.


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#22 Spacewarp

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 09:20 AM

Jalaguy's right.


 

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 09:32 AM

Oh lord... Haha. Soon enough the entire wiki is going to be mirrored with a "(KreO)" entry...



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 10:36 PM

So, this is more for Abates than anyone else... Are we adding continuity designators to every page now or something?

 

I'm assuming I'm missing some other reason why Gra and Ida were called out with (Prime) continuity identifiers?

Gra and Ida have non-Prime Kre-O counterparts.


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No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 06:02 PM

Ugh.

Unless it's a massive coincidence, it seems KirbyForce/Noerk/etc. found an old account he's had lying around since 2010...

EDIT: Bloody hell, now he's hugging around moving the Drift article... Any sysops around?

Edited by Jalaguy, 18 June 2014 - 06:34 PM.


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#26 Spacewarp

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:11 PM

Can somebody please deal with Dinohawk? He's adding spoilers from Age of Extinction to character pages.


 

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#27 Creedence

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:19 PM

Er, yeah? It's been out in several places and Wikipedia has a synopsis. Just tag the information as spoilers if you're that bothered.

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:20 PM

Well, the thing said specifically to wait 10 hours before adding spoilers, so I assumed we were waiting for it to come out in the U.S.


 

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#29 Creedence

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:29 PM

What "thing"?

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:30 PM

The spoiler tag thing.


 

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#31 Creedence

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:42 PM

Pretty sure that's a guideline and not an absolute rule. If the information is verifiable and presented well, it should be included.

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 02:46 PM

Well, his was out of universe, and talked in present tense, so it wouldn't have even been passable, anyway.


 

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#33 Creedence

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Posted 26 June 2014 - 03:05 PM

Valid reasons.

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Posted 27 June 2014 - 09:41 PM

Rare look at Marvel studios. At one point, camera records bunch of text on a computer - story premise for season 2 ep "The Imobilizer!

 

Anyone wanna try to transcribe that stuff?


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Posted 27 June 2014 - 11:42 PM

D..Morrow.Micro-Decision........................................................
 
Specify the name of the document you wish to either create or
change. If no drive is specified, the logged drive will be used.
 
If the directory has not been turned off, it will appear at the
bottom of your screen. These are the named of documents (and perhaps
some non-documents) on the logged drive that you may change. If you
suspect that there might be more names but there isn't enough room on
the display, you can use ^W and ^Z to scroll the directory up and down.
 
Document? kress
WHILE ENTERING: DEL or ^M erases a mistake. RETURN when done.
^V safely cancels in mid-stream.
 
 
 
 
DIRECTORY   Drive B
CARSHOW        KRESS        MOLECULE        WEAPON        WEAPON BAD

--

D..Morrow.Micro-Decision...........Insert.......................................
 
Specify the name of the name of the document you wish to either create or
change. If no drive is specified, the logged drive will be used.
 
If the directory has not been turned off, it will appear at the
bottom of your screen. These are the named of documents (and perhaps
some non-documents) on the logged drive that you may change. If you
suspect that there might be more names but there isn't enough room on
the display, you can use ^W and ^Z to scroll the directory up and down.
 
Document? kress
WHILE ENTERING: DEL or ^M erases a mistake. RETURN when done.

^V safely cancels in mid-stream.

 
Reading from disk...
 
 
DIRECTORY    Drive B
CARSHOW        KRESS        MOLECULE        WEAPON        WEAPON BAD

 

--

D..E:KRESS.........................Insert...........................------....
L----:----:----:----:----:----:----:----:----:----:----:--------R
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

     ^STRANSFORMERS^S

 

"The Molecule Immobilizer"

 

(PREMISE)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Written by

Earl Kress

8/24/84

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

MARVEL PRODUCTIONS LTD.

 

 

 

"The Molecule Immobilizer"

 

(PREMISE)

 

Wheeljack is working on a device which can freeze a

 

molecule's action, literally stopping a moving object in its
 
tracks, leaving it immobile. Through the spying of Soundwave
 
and Reflector, the Decepticons are well aware of this
 
development.
 

The Autobots take the gun out into the forest for a test.

 
Wheeljack aims it at a tree and the tree becomes immobile. Spike
 
tries to break a leaf off and can't. The air molecules of the
 
surface of the tree have been frozen from motion, changing the
 
substance of the tree into one as hard as rock. Spike wants to
 
know what it would be like to be immobile, but Wheeljack tells
 
him it would be fatal to a human since it stops the flow of blood
 
to the brain. Suddenly, the tree comes back to life. It seems
 
the effect is only temporary.
 

Ironhide, who is supposed to be standing guard, has become

 
interested in the experiments and all at once, the Autobots are
 
overrun by the Decepticons. Several Autobots are seriously
 
damaged and the Decepticons get away with the molecule gun.
 

Back at Autobot headquarters, Ironhide takes full blame for

 
the attack and thinking he has become too old to be useful
 
anymore, retires himself from active service, much to Prime's

 


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 04:38 AM

ARTICLE: Gaea

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Gaea

IN-SHOW (episode #1): Gaia

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REQUEST: name source spelling for "Gaea" (BW sourcebook?) or article move to Gaia.

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 05:06 AM

Gaea's talk page seems to suggest it was covered in the Beast Wars Omnibus in some way (which I don't have).



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Posted 28 June 2014 - 06:45 AM

Checking my BW Omnibus, the first mentioning of the planet's name in the Sourcebook that I can find is under Galvatron's "Weapons/Abilities" section:

 

Showing uncanny prescience, Galvatron was one of the very first 'new' Cybertronains to adopt a beast mode. He chose a species of dragon from the planet Gaea, largely because of its fearsome reputation as a hunter. In this mode, Galvatron possesses a system for ingesting base metals and turning them into a searing molten jet, which could be spat at enemies. Also derived from Gaea's datafiles, his vehicular mode was a drill tank, with an explosive projectile bit. In Robot Mode, Galvatron utilized a claw/jaw ballistic weapon. His preferences was to seize his victim and execute them at close range.

 

And there's also the Glossary entry for the planet itself in the very back of the book:

 

Gaea:

A planet located in sector C-16 of Cybertronian space, Gaea possessed an unusually high amount of Angolmois energy and thus attracted the attention of would-be despot, Galvatron. Gaea is a very Earth-like planet filled with forests, swamps, and wide areas of frozen tundra. While animals and nature rule this world, the Maximals discovered scattered pieces of technology on the planet, indicating that at one time the world had been inhabited by a technologically advanced race. Gaea has two moons, one of which served as an observation post for Celestial observers Artemis and Moon.


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I think the concept of being educated and being able to educate is something that more people need more of in their lives.

No, we don't all know everything but we should spread and share that what we do know.

If I'm consistently misspelling a word, I would want and expect people to correct me as should I imagine all decent people who know the value of good literacy.

Its just arrogant laziness to know you're spelling a word incorrectly and not correct yourself or ignore the advice when people do tell you how to spell a word correctly.

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Posted 28 June 2014 - 07:42 AM

While normally I wouldn't be so quick to trust other sources over on-screen text, we're talking about an English word written by non-English speakers. There's a LOT of animation errors out there that are just some poor animator trying to write a street sign in letters they don't know.

 

"Gaea" and "Gaia" are both accepted spellings, although "Gaea" is vastly more common. Still though, the most likely thing is that someone tried to spell it and got it wrong (or "wrong" in this instance).



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Posted 28 June 2014 - 10:08 AM

While normally I wouldn't be so quick to trust other sources over on-screen text, we're talking about an English word written by non-English speakers.


That's not actually at issue here; in this particular instance, we're stuck with the "Gaea" spelling because that's how it appeared in an English-language work (i.e. the Sourcebook), which we've also defaulted to for characters (Lio Convoy over Leo Prime, most famously, but also Autocrasher over Autocrusher).
 

"Gaea" and "Gaia" are both accepted spellings, although "Gaea" is vastly more common.


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Gaia: 27,400,000 results
Gaea: 888,000 results

 

The Wikipedia article for the goddess is also at Gaia, but I don't know how diagnostic that is.





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