Transformers: Rise of the Beasts
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I think the whole knight side of things evolved from script rewrites but the whole lack of a general plan for the movies, really devolved the knights thing, which is kind of a pity, it would of been intersting to see the Dinobots depicted as actual knights and make them stand out from their G1 selves but as we all know, the sequel to AOE was a complete mess, being a bunch of ideas just cramed into one movie
I don't believe there was a script at all. Maybe individual scenes got scripted on the fly, but I don't believe there was ever a point when anyone knew how all the pieces were going to fit together.
And if nothing else, The Last Knight had a FAR superior musical score relative to AoE.
My theory for what TLK did to me is that the narrative is so disconnected in such a dreamlike way that my brain thought I actually was asleep, and started shutting down parts it thought it didn't need. It was the exact opposite of lucid dreaming. I was awake and unconscious at the same time.
I was fully conscious for the horror of AOE, so I'd say it was the worse experience.
I was fully conscious for the horror of AOE, so I'd say it was the worse experience.
I'm not sure about that (few parts of TLK's score really stick out to me the way Lockdown's theme and Autobots Reunite do), but Jablonsky's work was consistently one of the things that kept me coming back to watch these.
best part was the bald dude Chinese milk product placement.
also, if being in AoE wasn’t enough of a turn off, never drink Chinese milk.
See, ya can’t even keep the film’s straight
(Lockdown was in Age of Extinction, The Last Knight was the one with Suddenly-Megatron-Again, Quintessa, and not-Nemesis Prime.). Age of Extinction’s score was probably the weakest work Jablonsky did for the franchise.
Yes, that's what I meant. Not much about TLK's score stood out to me the way that (or as much as) those two pieces from Age of Extinction did, which is why I remember AOE's score more fondly than TLK's. Or at least those parts of it.
(Also, doesn't he explicitly call himself Nemesis Prime in TLK? That I'm hazier on recollecting, but I vaguely recall rolling my eyes at them making Peter Cullen roar yet another edgy line that fell flat.)
(Also, doesn't he explicitly call himself Nemesis Prime in TLK? That I'm hazier on recollecting, but I vaguely recall rolling my eyes at them making Peter Cullen roar yet another edgy line that fell flat.)
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He does, yes.
Or, maybe it was Quintessa who called him that? (I really don't wanna watch the movie again)
Either way, he was definitely called "Nemesis Prime" in TLK.
What Steevy meant by "not-Nemesis Prime" was the fact that it was Optimus himself corrupted to evil instead of Nemesis Prime being a separate individual cloned/modeled after Optimus in appearance.
Yes. "I am Galvatron!" was spoken right before he infected the other KSI Prototypes with his evil energy. That one I do remember.
She doesn't, at least not in their initial encounter.
And he does announce it while fighting Bumblebee.
Sigh, rewatching that made me sad.
But yeah, I'm with Steevy on that. It's so... lazy. "And then he's a bad guy now, so he should call himself Nemesis Prime!"
I'm a big fan of TLK's score.
I also really dig the opening scene with King Arthur and the Knights of Cybertron. So much so that I began thinking that some sort of TF series set in Medieval Europe would be fun. You could have Knight themed Autobots and Viking themed Decepticons...
Anyway yeah. The movie is a mess but there are aspects of the design of parts of it that have a seed of a fun idea.
That's the best I got.
I also really dig the opening scene with King Arthur and the Knights of Cybertron. So much so that I began thinking that some sort of TF series set in Medieval Europe would be fun. You could have Knight themed Autobots and Viking themed Decepticons...
Anyway yeah. The movie is a mess but there are aspects of the design of parts of it that have a seed of a fun idea.
That's the best I got.
I need to listen to it again. I did like the sting of music with "Did you forget who I am?" and the Seglass ni Tonday motif.
And when you can put that on a movie poster and my initial is reaction resounding indifference, it kinda says how the movies wore out their good will.
I quite liked that.This post might be right up your alley, then.