Transformers: Rise of the Beasts

ZacWilliam1

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Trailer looks fine. Good enough to go see it for what it is. I'm a Transformer guy I don't have to expect it to be great or even good to want to see it.

It would look better if it was a follow up to the simple clear fun world of the Bumblebee movie but we've known it wasn't gonna be that for a long time.

I'm mostly curious if it's a follow-up in any way to the Last Knight Unicron stuff or if they just come at that from a totally different non-sequeter direction.


-ZacWilliam, Narrative cohesion between films has absolutely not been something the films have ever cared about much before...
 

ZacWilliam1

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Yes, but since the Maximal's whole thing in BW (and later in Kingdom) is that they traveled back in time it's possible they come from the future of the Last Knight (or similar) where Unicron/Earth woke up and has followed them back.

It's also very very very very (can't have enough very's here really) possible that this film won't know The Last Knight from Adam and this Unicron is entirely separate.

Like I said even within the Bay Movies alone narrative cohesion is a joke so I wouldn't expect it, I'm just curious how they handle things.

-ZacWilliam, if the film even has enough plot to give anything an actual origin I mean.
 

Undead Scottsman

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Y'all think Unicron might show up in this flick? 'cause I'm getting a sneaking suspicion that Unicron is going to show up in this flick.

Huh, much more explicit about Unicron as the baddie then.

I don't think even Paramount know if this is a reboot at this point or not though. Everything seems a bit low energy in that trailer.

I thought this was all officially reboot territory now.

Like, correct me if I'm wrong, but Bumblebee was initially shot as a prequel (hence the appearance of Sector 7 and a young Simmons) but once it looked like it was breaking away from the negative opinion that the Bay films had garnered, they decided to go full reboot and redid the ending with Prime showing up on Earth.
 

ZacWilliam1

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I believe some folks behind this film have said they consider it all one series, no reboot,

Though I admit I havn't paid super close attention.


-ZacWilliam, even during Bumblebee official sources seemed mixed on how connected things were iirc,
 

Deathy G1

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Y'all, we are getting a LIVE ACTION UNICRON that certainly appears to be pretty G1-ified. Hasbro, please give us a Titan Class Studio Series Unicron figure. It would be so mean if you didn't.

...and I mean Titan Class. I don't want a remold of the HasLab toy because I can't justify that expense to my wife....
 

The Predaking

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I wouldn't mind if they did a rerelease of the HasLab toy, but they probably put it at something ridiculous like $899. Then everyone would justify it due to "Lower production run" or "Higher production costs".
 

Undead Scottsman

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It'd be really funny if this was still in that continuity because it would be the most hilarious case of "Random shit from Cybertron always winds up on Earth." Off the top of my head, in completely isolated incidents

-Chosen as the site to produce Transformium (TF4)
-Chosen as the site to build the Star Harvester, leading to the Matrix and the seekers being on Earth too. (TF2)
-Chosen as the site to summon Cybertron to for repairs, leading to Sentinal Prime's ship crashing on the moon (TF3)
-Final resting place of the randomly launched Allspark, leading to Megatron getting stuck there hunting for it. (TF1)
-Also happens to be have always been Unicron, possibly the reason the Knights of Cybertron chose to hide on the planet with Quintessa's control staff. Or that might just be a big coincidence. (TF5)
-Also apparently Earth has been a hotbed of Transformer activity throughout the ages, including Bumblebee and Hot Rod mucking about in WW2. (TF5)
-Chosen by Optimus as a potential refuge for the Autobots, leading to Bumblee to arrive in the 80's, followed by (TF6)
-And now apparently the Maximals have just been chilling on the planet for who knows how long and now there's also a non-Earth Unicron. (TF7)

And that's all stuff that happens prior to the 2007 movie!

Earth is cursed.
 

Dake

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Paramount pictures English language verison:


My thoughts:
More bayformers, big, overblown and little substance from what I can tell
Yeah... it's like they ignored anything they may have learned from Bumblebee. But hey, it's only a trailer right?

I'm a Transformer guy I don't have to expect it to be great or even good to want to see it.

Why wouldn't you want it to be good? We know there are good stories out there to be told, and we know Hollywood can make quality action films - why not hold these movies up to at least those standards? This sort of dismissal is why we slogged through the various Baygasms.
 
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Steadfast

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It'd be really funny if this was still in that continuity because it would be the most hilarious case of "Random shit from Cybertron always winds up on Earth." Off the top of my head, in completely isolated incidents

Related: how many separate and mostly incompatible plots was Megatron working on before becoming Ice Man?

And Soundwave and Laserbeak's whole deal
 

Undead Scottsman

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I wouldn't mind if they did a rerelease of the HasLab toy, but they probably put it at something ridiculous like $899. Then everyone would justify it due to "Lower production run" or "Higher production costs".

So two things. Firstly, I, personally, would be 100% okay with them reissuing Unicron or any Haslab for that matter. I initially skipped Unicron due to price and size reasons, but in retropect I wish I had picked him up. Meanwhile, I DID get both Victory figures, but I have zero qualms with other people being given the opportunity to get them if they want them. Other people being able to buy these things has zero effect on my own personal enjoyment and I'm more in favor of people being able to get the things they want than people getting the satisfaction of having an item that they no few if anyone will ever own.

Secondly, this ain't going to happen in a million years: Haslabs rely a lot on FOMO (fear of missing out). The idea that if you don't get this thing NOW, then you might never, fuels a lot of preorders. It gets people off the fence and mashing that buy button when they might have otherwise waited. Now I don't necessarily like that situation, but its how Hasbro has chosen to produce these items.
 

Superomegaprime

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So two things. Firstly, I, personally, would be 100% okay with them reissuing Unicron or any Haslab for that matter. I initially skipped Unicron due to price and size reasons, but in retropect I wish I had picked him up. Meanwhile, I DID get both Victory figures, but I have zero qualms with other people being given the opportunity to get them if they want them. Other people being able to buy these things has zero effect on my own personal enjoyment and I'm more in favor of people being able to get the things they want than people getting the satisfaction of having an item that they no few if anyone will ever own.

I doult they'll redo Haslab Unicron as that is a crowd funder only, but a new figure at the titan class size could be on the cards in the future
 

Sabrblade

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If any previous movie is getting retconned by all this, it could just be TLK alone, since it was the only one of the movies that bombed.

It'd be really funny if this was still in that continuity because it would be the most hilarious case of "Random shit from Cybertron always winds up on Earth." Off the top of my head, in completely isolated incidents

-Chosen as the site to produce Transformium (TF4)
-Chosen as the site to build the Star Harvester, leading to the Matrix and the seekers being on Earth too. (TF2)
-Chosen as the site to summon Cybertron to for repairs, leading to Sentinal Prime's ship crashing on the moon (TF3)
-Final resting place of the randomly launched Allspark, leading to Megatron getting stuck there hunting for it. (TF1)
-Also happens to be have always been Unicron, possibly the reason the Knights of Cybertron chose to hide on the planet with Quintessa's control staff. Or that might just be a big coincidence. (TF5)
-Also apparently Earth has been a hotbed of Transformer activity throughout the ages, including Bumblebee and Hot Rod mucking about in WW2. (TF5)
-Chosen by Optimus as a potential refuge for the Autobots, leading to Bumblee to arrive in the 80's, followed by (TF6)
-And now apparently the Maximals have just been chilling on the planet for who knows how long and now there's also a non-Earth Unicron. (TF7)

And that's all stuff that happens prior to the 2007 movie!

Earth is cursed.
You think that's bad? Power Rangers has had Earth jam-packed filled with a bajillion ancient relics, weapons, power sources, monsters, villains, and other ranger-related MacGuffins for its entire 30-year run. The Earth of that series has had so much "stuff" hidden inside it all at the same time that would make these Transformers movies blush.
 

Undead Scottsman

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I feel like with Power Rangers they frequently insinuate or even show that this kind of stuff is going on everywhere, all of the time. We just focus on Earth most cause of the premise of the show.

In Transformers it's just a weird moving walkway of trash from Cybertron going straight to Earth with little to no deviation.

Nebulos is feeling left out. Let's make Nebulos the new "dumpster for Cybertron's sins"
 

lastmaximal

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On the one hand, Unicron.

On the other hand, Unicron is the latest in a long list of "we're throwing everything we can into this, maybe one of these things will stick".

The Bee solo movie was all right and very refreshing at the perfect time. But as a follow-up, this is powered by too few things -- namely "this isn't Bay not really" and "look at this thing from a fondly remembered era" and that's about it -- to really get much more than cautious optimism. But as is generally the case for the movies, the toyline is a banger, so at least there's that.

I will say it's good to see a semblance of a plot forming here finally. This could be interesting and fun.
 


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