Traitor Watch - The 45 Thread

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
Citizen
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wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
Every system assumes on some level that the parties involved won't conspire to dismantle it from within. What's the alternative, making a pact with an elder god to come and hit the cosmic reset button should we fail to maintain rule of law?
OVERSIGHT. A methodology or protocol which allows for the maintenance of fundamental systems of government. Building a system of governance in which there are quantitative measures under which politicians and political parties can operate.

Maybe even building everything in such a way that "the good will of all involved" isn't ******* involved; because we've known that "power corrupts" for FAR longer than we've ever had responsible government.

In short: people can't be trusted, so make a government in which you DON'T HAVE to trust people. In which there is third party, outside oversight to all machinations, and an absolute rule of law. Think "How the IRS treats the poor" but for politicians: and you have a good start.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
Citizen
In theory, the three branches of the US government are supposed to check each other to keep balance. In practice, when one branch can appoint members of another branch, it doesn't work worth a damn.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
The arizona ballot audit is in! Turns out "they" (meaning the initial voting team which were responsible for counting the ballots.) DID indeed miscount the ballots! Biden walked away from this farce of an audit with an extra 360 odd votes. HA!
 

Wheelimus

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Citizen
But at least we know for the 17th or so time that Trump lost Arizona.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
Citizen
Yeah, Tangerine Anus and his followers all seem to think otherwise.
They're continuing to grasp at straws, desperately shouting that their "Dr" Shiva proved something. No, he really didn't, but let's be honest, these people are not going to listen to reason
 

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
Citizen
The only thing that'll shut the orange cancer up is putting him behind bars. And it still won't shut the cult up.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
Citizen
If they were willing to listen to trump, and the GOP in general even before all this noise started: they weren't listening to reason anyway, and haven't for a very long time.
 

Rhinox

too old for this
Citizen
Trump doesn't control the mob anymore. They showed they'll turn on him just as quick. Remember when he brought up vaccines and was booed?

No, there's too much momentum there. He's still able to somewhat guide it, push it in a direction, but Trump does not control the mob he made. It's surpassed even his demagoguery.
 

Rust

Slightly Off
Citizen
Indeed.
This monster the GOP has made is unshackled and untethered to any sort of reality.
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
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Wheelimus

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And like all of Trump's lawsuits it'll get knocked out in the first round again and again.
 


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