Marvel's Hawkeye on Disney Plus

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Shadewing

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Okay, I really hope this is what finally gives us Classic Hawkeye; Such a great character but so little really done with him, and seeing some stuff from the 'Hawkguy' comics gives me some hope for that . I also do love the touch that you can see him wearing a hearing aid in some shots, as Hawkeye's deafness rarely gets acknowledged.
 

Stepwise

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Hawkeye does look fun - reminds me of "You and I remember Budapest very differently" and some of his scenes in Age of Ultron.
 

Sabrblade

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Before the MCU, my only familiarity with Hawkeye was via the 90's Iron Man cartoon (in which he was kind of a loner with a bad attitude) and a little bit of the 1999 Avengers: United We Stand cartoon (missed out on most of it, but caught a little bit of it, and in which Hawkeye was again kind of a loner with a bad attitude).

I don't know what comics Hawkeye was like, so I'm going into this only really knowing of MCU Hawkeye.
 

ZacWilliam1

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He started as a villain. But a "misunderstood wasn't actually a villain" type.

Then he joined the Avengers and for a long time he was the hot head-jerk-bad boy of the team. The "heart of gold, means well, but is too arrogant and always ready to break the rules and rebel" type.

Eventually he was on the Avengers and then at the top of the West Coast Avengers for long enough that writers had him have matured, and while he would still break rules, he knew how to do it the right way at the right time and he became kind of a mentor figure even. This was the point where he got Justice and Firestar into the Avengers because he felt they deserved a shot and he became Leader of the outlaw Thunderbolts because he thought they deserved a shot at redemption.

Recently (relatively) there was a character (re)defining series where he was a Jim Rockford style hard luck hero. Someone out of his depth who had screwed up a lot and would again but was a good person and never stopped trying. It really humanized him a lot. It was a huge hit and kinda defined who Hawkguy is now. The expectation is this TV show will pull on a lot of that series.


-ZacWilliam, after reading Marvel for 30 years I can honestly point to Hawkeye as one of the characters that's had pretty good and fairly consistent character growth.
 
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Paladin

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The buried lede with this series seems to be the sudden existence of "Rogers: The Musical."

ten bucks says the climactic song is some variation of "I am NOT throwing away my Shield."
 

AgentOrange

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The buried lede with this series seems to be the sudden existence of "Rogers: The Musical."

ten bucks says the climactic song is some variation of "I am NOT throwing away my Shield."

Why would a variation of My Shot be a climactic song? My Shot is an I Want song. It's the third song in the show for a reason, a character establishing moment. It's damn far removed from a climax.

They put Rogers in the Lunt-Fontanne and not the Richard Rodgers for a reason.
 
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