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@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

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@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.


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#1 Jalaguy

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 05:46 AM

Okay, so, courtesy of TFW, we have from Japanese retailer Red Mercury what are supposedly images for the upcoming Nightbeat, Jhiaxus and Windblade T30 Deluxes:

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RTS Jazz mould?! RID Jhiaxus homage?! What the hug? :??? Everything about them is just wholly unexpected...

Edited by Jalaguy, 14 January 2014 - 09:00 AM.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 05:50 AM

Ick. Those are some bad mold choices.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:01 AM

Yeah, uh, those look pretty nasty.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:02 AM

Sigh, they are not good. Not good at all.



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:05 AM

I think the RTS Jazz mold is one of the best modern molds ever... As Jazz. But it's not what I would really want for Nightbeat cause it just isn't much like his original self at all and I love 80s Furman Nightbeat. It just looks like Jazz painted like Nightbeat.

And Jhiaxus ehhh... The new head looks like it would help a lot but again It's a homage to the G2 guy I am interested in and this seems too far off mark there. G2 colors would be better but even then...


I'm gonna hope these are fake. If they aren't I might still get NB and might pass on Jhiaxus.


-ZacWilliam, mostly if real I'd just be disappointed with Hasbro if this was what they brought to the table for the thrilling 30th. Doing characters long requested = Good. Doing them as marginally inappropriate repaints= more likely to cheese fans off than make them happy. And they should know that.

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:08 AM

Wow.

 

I dunno, I'd probably get them, but I can't see being highly enthused about them either.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:09 AM

Armada Starscream isn't "wrong" for Jhiaxus. In the past he looked like an immensely bulked up Seeker-esq design, and then he was Storm Jet/Jet Storm, and then in IDW he was suddenly evocative Movie Protoform Starscream with his original head. So there's not many consistent elements beyond looking distantly like a Starscream, which this mold does. And I love Jhiaxus so I'll buy it, (if it's real).

 

Nightbeat deserves his own mold, by gosh!


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:14 AM

Oh yeah, the Armadascream mould is totally okay for Jhiaxus in my books, but why colour it like the RID toy? That's like if they'd made T30 Waspinator his Fox Kids colour scheme...

 

Also, I suppose the Jazz-Nightbeat link is that they were both Porsches?


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:16 AM

The Armada Starscream mold's just too slender for my tastes. The FOC Seeker mold seems like a better fit for him than this.

 

Edit: Just noticed that he doesn't have hands in that pic. lol


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:21 AM

God Hasbro is SO INCOMPETENT.



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:26 AM

The one that can't be made by a fan with sculpy or photoshop is just a drawing.  I don't believe it is real yet.  If it is, I will not buy them.



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:34 AM

I'm not thrilled (snicker) with these but they'll do.  I do love me some Jazz.

 

So the Jazz mold has to be the mold with the most different heads and accessories at this point.

 

Jazz head, gun, & speakers

Stepper with Nightstick, gun, & speakers

Treadshot head, gun, & speakers

Kickoff head, gun, & speakers

Wheelie head, slingshot, & speakers

Nightbeat head, gun, & lights

 

That's not counting the SG Longarm custom stuff either.

 

Also original source:

http://www.redmercur...1401A-RED-10739

http://www.redmercur...1401A-RED-10740

http://www.redmercur...1401A-RED-10741

 

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:36 AM

I think those first two are photoshopped, but I dunno.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:45 AM

Redmercury is a reliable source.

 

The images are Photoshopped as much as Hasbro tends to Photoshop their publicity photos (which is a lot).

 

Perhaps Jhiaxus with his previous toy colors is Hasbro's way of getting something RID into the 30th Anniversary.

 

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 06:52 AM

Redmercury is a reliable source.

 

The images are Photoshopped as much as Hasbro tends to Photoshop their publicity photos (which is a lot).

 

Perhaps Jhiaxus with his previous toy colors is Hasbro's way of getting something RID into the 30th Anniversary.

 

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Well, My new years resolution was to save more money in 2014 and if these are the offerings then it looks like I'll be able to stay on track. 



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 07:03 AM


I think the Jhiaxus is worse as a RiD homage/recognition than it is just as a G2 Jhaxus. As the later the colors are all wrong but it looks to have an appropriate head on a passable body. If you're looking at it from a RiD perspective it's the right colors but everything else wrong and it's an obscure non-show toy as your only line recognition in the 30th Ann. which is sad.

I'm a huge Nightbeat fan but if they wanted to do a RID homage the RTS Jazz mold as a Spychanger Hot Shot might have been nicer.


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Posted 14 January 2014 - 07:21 AM

Making Jhiaxus a partial homage to the RiD toy really does seem on par for Hasbro. They do love referencing character's original toys in updates, and that technically is Jhiaxus' original toy.

 

Nightbeat is odd considering the relative lack of redecoes from past lines so far, and some people were speculating they couldn't due to budget reasons. It's not the ideal Nightbeat update, but I don't hate it at all. The mold is too nice to write it off.

 

I was kind of hoping Windblade would be a voyager. At this size, it might be too small for how ornately designed she is. Going to withhold judgement until we see an actual toy.

 

Still, Nightbeat and Jhiaxus don't really excite me enough to be must buys.



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 07:25 AM

I think Hasbro said Windblade was going to be a Deluxe when they first revealed her name and design.
 
It also occurs to me that the use of the Jazz mould here suggests the leaked Hardhead listing probably will be the fabled Warpath retool after all.

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 07:42 AM

I'm mixed on Jhiaxus. On one hand, yay! someone to go with my BotCon 2010/2013 toys! On the other, I already kinda had a toy for that and would have prefered a full-on G2 toy.



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Posted 14 January 2014 - 07:44 AM

I was hoping for Nightbeat from the IDW 'Bee mold. I don't think I like the idea of him as another hood-chest guy, and while I love the RTS Jazz mold, I'm kinda over it by now.

 

I really Jhiaxus will be able to clap. Otherwise, I think Hasbro's cost-cutting has gone a bit far.... :D


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