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#1 Quantumhawk

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:50 AM

This was posted by a guy over at TFW, but since that site is blocked I can't find the link. Regardless: http://www.youtube.c...eature=youtu.be

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1) Unscrew 5 easy-to-reach screws
2) Separate body into 4 parts (front torso, back torso, nosecone, legs)
3) Take sandpaper (wrapped around a board or something flat) or an emery board (long file board for fingernails and such) and file down 4 screw posts and 4 flat surfaces (2 on each side of the torso).
4) Reassemble

I did this today and it fixed my BW's shoulders to a very satisfying degree.

Notes of caution:

- I did the screw posts on mine a little too much, I should have done them less and done the flat surfaces more.
- If you do file some or all of these parts too much, it's possible to make it so his legs won't stay properly seated for jet mode. On mine one of them is borderline, it doesn't really want to stay in place but I can get it with some finagling.
- Another side effect of doing this too much is that the top panels above his shoulders may not want to sit down in the recess properly. Honestly I don't think this is noticeable, and it's a worthwhile price to pay for his actual shoulders sitting in place securely.
- Have a can of air or something to blow out the filings. Yuck.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:55 AM

Why just do what Peaugh did.


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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:00 AM

Yeah, Peaugh was able to fix it without any modification.

I'm going to attempt that whenever he finds his way to New England.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:03 AM

I don't think there's anything to fix... because they haven't shown up on the damn east coast.
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:15 AM

Peaugh's "fix" doesn't really work unless you have a really good Blitzwing. It helps a little but all you're really doing is just bending the chest a little and trying to make stronger contact. This is actually modifying the body to resolve the problem.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:18 AM

I did the sanding one yesterday and it worked like a charm. His arms stay in now.

But the nosecone is terrible though, the head won't stay in place so it pushes against it and makes paint rub off, I can't even transform him without risking more paint rubbing off.

Edited by Blues, 06 May 2013 - 11:19 AM.


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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:21 AM

Weird thing about mine, Peaugh's trick worked with the right shoulder, but not with the left. So basically, I just wedge the top shoulder panels into his chest piece and it keeps mostly. Just that the purple part that the arms are actually attached to move when I move his arms. Not perfect, but eh.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:32 AM

QUOTE(unluckiness @ May 6 2013, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Weird thing about mine, Peaugh's trick worked with the right shoulder, but not with the left. So basically, I just wedge the top shoulder panels into his chest piece and it keeps mostly. Just that the purple part that the arms are actually attached to move when I move his arms. Not perfect, but eh.


You should do this fix then. You probably just need to sand the screw post on one side.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:05 AM

Just posted this in the other thread, but on the off chance someone gets the toy and looks here but not there:


THIS FIX IS BLOODY WONDERFUL!

Seriously, it is REALLY easy to do. screw off the back and sand everywhere on the front where it touches the back (the screw posts and the inside walls down along the chest. Repeat this till your arms lock in perfect.

And they DO.

I just finished and his arms now lock in super solid and perfect. Rock solid, never coming out by mistake perfect. It improves the robot mode 100%.

Basically, DO IT.

(It also seems to have made his other modes more solid as well, both the tank and jet set together solidly now. Only the nosecone remains slightly annoying/weak, but it's an all around big improvement.)


-ZacWilliam, it is a really dumb mistake apparently. Someone got a measurement just a tiny fraction of an inch off and it blew the shoulder mechanism completely. Sand off the tiny bit of poorly measured plastic and boom, perfect working shoulders. TFs require precision in construction sometimes and someone blew that here. I'm just thankful its an easy fix.

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 09 May 2013 - 08:31 AM.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 09:40 AM

Okay, after sleeping in all day, I just did this and it works beautifully. Now I can hold him up by the arm and dangle him a bit and his shoulders will stay in place! icon-blitz.gif Now, if only there was a way to keep the yellow paint on his head from getting rubbed off...

Seriously guys, do this.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 10:47 AM

I'm not sure if the problem bothers me enough to do this.
It's similar to the problem of keeping Animated Jazz's hood down in Robot mode.

Just means I have to hold the problem part down when I want to rotate his arm.
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 10:48 AM

Toldja! :-)

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 10:57 AM

Could someone do a picture guide instead of a YouTube video?

I find it so much easier to follow pictures.
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 11:29 AM

QUOTE(EvilEyeSigma @ May 9 2013, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Could someone do a picture guide instead of a YouTube video?

I find it so much easier to follow pictures.


Not at home with the figure right now to take pics, but its very easy.

1) Unscrew the two little screws in the top of the back and the two little screws in the bottom of the back. And the bigger one in the butt.

2) Pull the halves of the body apart. (Legs and cockpit may come out but just put them aside to easily put back in when screwing back together.)

3) Now sand all the screw posts and the inner walls running down the center.

4) Put him back together and test the shoulder pegs. Repeat till they hold nice and snug.


-ZacWilliam, it's really easier than it sounds even.


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:12 PM

Gonna need to keep this thread in mind.
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 11:19 PM

QUOTE(Smitty @ May 6 2013, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why just do what Peaugh did.



Thank you for linking to a 20+ minute review without any indication on where "what Peaugh did" can be seen.






I did the sanding down because I'd rather fix something than forcing plastic. Pictures here:

http://www.tfw2005.c...zwing-arms.html

It really works well. Now if only I could fix the loose hips on mine. Impossible to remove rivets meant I had to pour Pledge Future into the area and let it sink into the entire joint.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:25 PM

This sanding thing is balls. I glued a bit of styrene (tiny pieces of credit card work as well) above the notches in the chest to slightly extend the lip that shoulders are supposed catch under. Now it is as solid as a rock.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:58 PM

QUOTE(Cheetimus Primal @ May 12 2013, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This sanding thing is balls. I glued a bit of styrene (tiny pieces of credit card work as well) above the notches in the chest to slightly extend the lip that shoulders are supposed catch under. Now it is as solid as a rock.

Do you think you could post a pic to better show what you did?

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:10 PM

Maybe tomorrow. I did it last night and only just now got to see how it worked.
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Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:18 PM


Sanding thing worked PERFECT for mine. It is absolutely rock solid when you sand it down enough. And it was really easy.

-ZacWilliam, I suppose it depends on your level of skill at moding but I would strongly recommend the sanding to anyone of any skill. It's easy and works beautifully. I would never try the snipping/glueing you describe. No offence it just sounds a lot more difficult and a lot more potential to be messed up messily.
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