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@  Robowang : (29 September 2016 - 11:14 AM)

Like a letter to my mom from prison inmates!

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:29 PM)

Oh wait, I see it's been addressed.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

I was when I posted that, yeah. I'll let you know if it happens again.

@  Dracula : (28 September 2016 - 02:10 PM)

You're clicking on threads and they're redirecting to that?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 01:05 PM)

Why do forum pages keep forwarding me to this? http://www.allsparkt...2VjMDYxZTQxYmVl

@  Broadside : (28 September 2016 - 12:05 PM)

Anyone know what the caption on this page refers to? http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primon

@  RichardT1977 : (28 September 2016 - 09:53 AM)

After the season finale where RM Corp found a way to make thinking Bots, I was hoping for a continuation of the story where Paradim learned the hard way the downside of Bots that can say, "No."

@  Rycochet : (28 September 2016 - 09:40 AM)

I liked Phantom 2040 more.

@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:43 PM)

Although this is odd to me, since I'm fairly sure they are/were good friends.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:42 PM)

Yeah I stopped liking the guy when I found his Twitter.

@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 September 2016 - 10:14 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk WWE Raw is on tonight. By the third hour, it'll probably feel the same, minus the actual physical trauma.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 09:51 AM)

I think I'd rather punch myself in the nuts.

@  Dracula : (26 September 2016 - 09:34 AM)

I think I'll watch Godzilla versus Gigan instead

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 09:32 AM)

Hillary versus Trump tonight. Oh boy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 06:53 AM)

I think I'm just too used to metal to not understand the lyrics.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 06:02 AM)

it's a vile interruption, chess the scripture way

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 03:49 AM)

I've had versions where the issue doesn't come up (or at least doesn't come up in the part I notice the most), but the version that got remastered for Bluray and DVD releases have it.

@  Nevermore : (26 September 2016 - 02:05 AM)

I initially misheard "flying tools of torment" as "we're flyin' into some torment".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2016 - 01:08 AM)

If it's a problem with all released versions, maybe the original audio source was itself damaged?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

I wish they'd relase a remastered version that fixed the audio and included at least had an option to have the text crawl rather than the credits at the start.

@  Telly : (25 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

tryin to buy the movie from amazon for $20-ish. the price of it has been fluctuating like crazy. not a day has gone by that it hasnt dropped to one price and then gone back up a few hours later. never seen a price fluctuate so much


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So, the upcoming BW Megatron remold of FoC Grimlock.


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#1 Octavius Prime

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:31 PM


The additional pics of the upcoming BW Megatron remold of GrimFoC has got me pretty keyed up. However, as I've slightly touched on in the original thread about him, he does pose a continuity question. Obviously he uses a FoC mold, which is, officially, in the "aligned" WfC/FoC/TFP continuity. As such, the most straightforward use of the toy is, just as FoC Grimlock is a new Grimlock distinct from G1, a new Aligned version of BW Megatron, whatever that means for the Aligned continuity (do they have a Beast Wars-like event in the future? Or does this Megatron belong to the FoC era just like every other FoC toy?)

However, A second possible use of the toy in the Aligned continuity is as the pre-existing Aligned Megatron - perhaps this is just a "phase" Aligned Megatron goes through during the FoC timeline (or later) where he uses a Grimlock-type body whose head simply homages BW Megatron while having no bearing on that character's fictional status.

Thirdly, a less-official take would be to, a la, IDW, simply assume that this new remold is a G1-continuity character, and thus, the actual BW Megatron/Megatron II that we all know and love (or at least a closer iteration of him, like with IDW Waspinator being just another G1/BW/Primax Waspinator). However, this leads to questions as well, namely that of, if this is in fact the true BW Megatron from the cartoon continuity, what aspect of him does it represent? When does he use this body? Or, if it is a somewhat different G1/Primax BW Megatron, which one is he? Sunbow? IDW? Wings?

Personally, my take will likely be a variation of Option 3, with the toy being the Real Deal BW Megatron. I've got an idea involving him, post-BM (hur hur), being resurrected (somehow). Following this, he devises a second time-travel plot, this time going back to the early era of the Great War (basically a G1 version of post-FoC). Deciding that one of the pivotal moments swinging the war toward Autobot victory was Shockwave's failure to properly harness the Dinobots, he ingratiates his way into the Decepticon ranks and, eventually, into Shockwave's confidence. However, rather than helping Shockwave produce tamed Dinobots, he uses Shockwave's tech to rebuild himself into the same form as Grimlock, believing that only a true Decepti/Predacon, not to mention one with his own level of intelligence, possessing a Dinobot body could turn the tide in favor of the Decepticons and quickly end the war.

Anyway, what are you going to do with him?

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Apr 15 2013, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyway, what are you going to do with him?


I am going to leave him on the store shelves.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ Apr 15 2013, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Apr 15 2013, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyway, what are you going to do with him?


I am going to leave him on the store shelves.



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More helpfully, what would you do with him?

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:36 PM

BW Megs has always been a completely different character than regular Megs, so he'll probably just be himself. Since BW came from the distant future into the prehistoric past, one could argue that he hasn't been introduced yet in the A-C, since Prime is near-future at most.
 
 
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 07:00 PM

Depends what the package and bio say.


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Posted 15 April 2013 - 07:01 PM

A lot will depend on the Bio.

But yeah, since he is a separate/distinct character I do wonder how the wiki will parse him if it does turn out to be BW Megatron and not say...Gigastorm or whatever.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:05 PM

There are always more stories for BW Megs out there. This is just his body in one of them.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:23 PM

The aligned counterpart of beast wars Megatron.Since the Aligned continuity is supposed to take elements from every universe, it only makes sense that there'd eventually be a Beast Wars. Maybe not one on prehistoric earth, but something involving a guy calling himself Megatron who scanned a T.Rex alt mode.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:38 PM

The second Universe comic issue revealed that Megatron had been resurrected after Beast Machines during the Universe War. Given the unproduced RiD Megatron redeco/remold that was proposed back then, that might have been his intended body for this revival. Afterward, with Primal being upgraded to his 10th Anniversary Deluxe body, so too may have Megatron. Thus, this new FOC Grimlock body may be his body for even after that point.

Though, as others have mentioned, it'll all depend on the bio.

Keep in mind, however, that his bio could very well be generically written to just represent Beast Era Megatron in general, without specifying any event-related reason for this toy's body. In that kind of case, all that would matter in the bio would be which character he is, instead of the current form taken on by said character.

I mean, just look the bios of Beast Wars 10th Anniversary Deluxe Megatron and United UN-31 Beast Megatron. Both toys have the character in a body that, while based on his original Beast Wars T-Rex body, is new and different enough from the bodies of his previous toys. Yet, both toys feature generically-written bios that only describe the character in a very general manner, paying no mind to his new looks.
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:42 PM

If the package mentions FoC still or the Bio refers to something explicitly Aligned that places him there. If it doesn't, then there's no reason to associate him with that Universal Stream at all.

As long as that isn't the case he's just another G1 BW Megs update from some version of Primax BW or before or after.


-ZacWilliam, I don't think it's likely to be a super complicated situation really...

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

Easy, I'm going to re-purpose it as Beast Wars Megatron. icon-fire.gif

Specifically since the real thing is a now incredibly expensive Botcon toy I'm going to use it as a pre-Beast Wars BW Megatron.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:53 PM

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 09:09 PM

Depends on which color scheme they go with. I'm hoping Transmetal. If not I'll fix that.
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 10:59 PM

If he were in Predacon's colors, that would be bonkers. I'd be happy. As it stands, he'll just be another Megatron.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:09 PM

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Depends on which color scheme they go with. I'm hoping Transmetal. If not I'll fix that.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE(abates @ Apr 16 2013, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bee in the City "Joe", having found a way to escape Axiom Nexus to an Aligned universe and obtain a suitable body.

I was thinking something like that as well.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:48 AM

It's my favourite Megatron. Coninuity can go screw itself, I'm buying him.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:51 AM

Hopefully it'll be in Transmetal colors. No Vac-Metal, but do it with shiny purple paint.

I'll be putting him on my BW Shelf.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:30 AM

After constantly fighting and losing to Optimus Primal, Megatron hits the gym. Good enough for me.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:38 AM

If it's somehow in Armada Predacon colors, it's Prime Predacon. Doesn't seem likely, but strange things happen.

If it's in BW Megatron's colors, then...I dunno. I'd probably just skip it. Nothing added on to Beast Wars after the show has really impressed me enough to want to add more.



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