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A big thank you to everyone who contributed to my GoFundMe! =D

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Especially if it's an escort mission.

@  Pennpenn : (27 August 2016 - 07:29 AM)

I can't believe I forgot one of the core rules of video games. When the question is "They can't be that stupid, can they?" the answer is almost always "Yes they can".

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I think the meme needs to be transferred back to Vin Diesel

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CHUCK NORRIS NO!

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Yes?

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Chuck Norris

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Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

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No no no, ~finger~prints!

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I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

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Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

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Goodnight, folks!

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@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

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Happy birthday to me!

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Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

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So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

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@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.


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So, the upcoming BW Megatron remold of FoC Grimlock.


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#1 Octavius Prime

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:31 PM


The additional pics of the upcoming BW Megatron remold of GrimFoC has got me pretty keyed up. However, as I've slightly touched on in the original thread about him, he does pose a continuity question. Obviously he uses a FoC mold, which is, officially, in the "aligned" WfC/FoC/TFP continuity. As such, the most straightforward use of the toy is, just as FoC Grimlock is a new Grimlock distinct from G1, a new Aligned version of BW Megatron, whatever that means for the Aligned continuity (do they have a Beast Wars-like event in the future? Or does this Megatron belong to the FoC era just like every other FoC toy?)

However, A second possible use of the toy in the Aligned continuity is as the pre-existing Aligned Megatron - perhaps this is just a "phase" Aligned Megatron goes through during the FoC timeline (or later) where he uses a Grimlock-type body whose head simply homages BW Megatron while having no bearing on that character's fictional status.

Thirdly, a less-official take would be to, a la, IDW, simply assume that this new remold is a G1-continuity character, and thus, the actual BW Megatron/Megatron II that we all know and love (or at least a closer iteration of him, like with IDW Waspinator being just another G1/BW/Primax Waspinator). However, this leads to questions as well, namely that of, if this is in fact the true BW Megatron from the cartoon continuity, what aspect of him does it represent? When does he use this body? Or, if it is a somewhat different G1/Primax BW Megatron, which one is he? Sunbow? IDW? Wings?

Personally, my take will likely be a variation of Option 3, with the toy being the Real Deal BW Megatron. I've got an idea involving him, post-BM (hur hur), being resurrected (somehow). Following this, he devises a second time-travel plot, this time going back to the early era of the Great War (basically a G1 version of post-FoC). Deciding that one of the pivotal moments swinging the war toward Autobot victory was Shockwave's failure to properly harness the Dinobots, he ingratiates his way into the Decepticon ranks and, eventually, into Shockwave's confidence. However, rather than helping Shockwave produce tamed Dinobots, he uses Shockwave's tech to rebuild himself into the same form as Grimlock, believing that only a true Decepti/Predacon, not to mention one with his own level of intelligence, possessing a Dinobot body could turn the tide in favor of the Decepticons and quickly end the war.

Anyway, what are you going to do with him?

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Apr 15 2013, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyway, what are you going to do with him?


I am going to leave him on the store shelves.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE(The Predaking @ Apr 15 2013, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Octavius Prime @ Apr 15 2013, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyway, what are you going to do with him?


I am going to leave him on the store shelves.



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More helpfully, what would you do with him?

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 06:36 PM

BW Megs has always been a completely different character than regular Megs, so he'll probably just be himself. Since BW came from the distant future into the prehistoric past, one could argue that he hasn't been introduced yet in the A-C, since Prime is near-future at most.
 
 
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 07:00 PM

Depends what the package and bio say.


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Posted 15 April 2013 - 07:01 PM

A lot will depend on the Bio.

But yeah, since he is a separate/distinct character I do wonder how the wiki will parse him if it does turn out to be BW Megatron and not say...Gigastorm or whatever.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:05 PM

There are always more stories for BW Megs out there. This is just his body in one of them.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:23 PM

The aligned counterpart of beast wars Megatron.Since the Aligned continuity is supposed to take elements from every universe, it only makes sense that there'd eventually be a Beast Wars. Maybe not one on prehistoric earth, but something involving a guy calling himself Megatron who scanned a T.Rex alt mode.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:38 PM

The second Universe comic issue revealed that Megatron had been resurrected after Beast Machines during the Universe War. Given the unproduced RiD Megatron redeco/remold that was proposed back then, that might have been his intended body for this revival. Afterward, with Primal being upgraded to his 10th Anniversary Deluxe body, so too may have Megatron. Thus, this new FOC Grimlock body may be his body for even after that point.

Though, as others have mentioned, it'll all depend on the bio.

Keep in mind, however, that his bio could very well be generically written to just represent Beast Era Megatron in general, without specifying any event-related reason for this toy's body. In that kind of case, all that would matter in the bio would be which character he is, instead of the current form taken on by said character.

I mean, just look the bios of Beast Wars 10th Anniversary Deluxe Megatron and United UN-31 Beast Megatron. Both toys have the character in a body that, while based on his original Beast Wars T-Rex body, is new and different enough from the bodies of his previous toys. Yet, both toys feature generically-written bios that only describe the character in a very general manner, paying no mind to his new looks.
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:42 PM

If the package mentions FoC still or the Bio refers to something explicitly Aligned that places him there. If it doesn't, then there's no reason to associate him with that Universal Stream at all.

As long as that isn't the case he's just another G1 BW Megs update from some version of Primax BW or before or after.


-ZacWilliam, I don't think it's likely to be a super complicated situation really...

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

Easy, I'm going to re-purpose it as Beast Wars Megatron. icon-fire.gif

Specifically since the real thing is a now incredibly expensive Botcon toy I'm going to use it as a pre-Beast Wars BW Megatron.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 08:53 PM

Bee in the City "Joe", having found a way to escape Axiom Nexus to an Aligned universe and obtain a suitable body.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 09:09 PM

Depends on which color scheme they go with. I'm hoping Transmetal. If not I'll fix that.
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Posted 15 April 2013 - 10:59 PM

If he were in Predacon's colors, that would be bonkers. I'd be happy. As it stands, he'll just be another Megatron.

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Posted 15 April 2013 - 11:09 PM

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Depends on which color scheme they go with. I'm hoping Transmetal. If not I'll fix that.


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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE(abates @ Apr 16 2013, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bee in the City "Joe", having found a way to escape Axiom Nexus to an Aligned universe and obtain a suitable body.

I was thinking something like that as well.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:48 AM

It's my favourite Megatron. Coninuity can go screw itself, I'm buying him.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 12:51 AM

Hopefully it'll be in Transmetal colors. No Vac-Metal, but do it with shiny purple paint.

I'll be putting him on my BW Shelf.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:30 AM

After constantly fighting and losing to Optimus Primal, Megatron hits the gym. Good enough for me.

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Posted 16 April 2013 - 01:38 AM

If it's somehow in Armada Predacon colors, it's Prime Predacon. Doesn't seem likely, but strange things happen.

If it's in BW Megatron's colors, then...I dunno. I'd probably just skip it. Nothing added on to Beast Wars after the show has really impressed me enough to want to add more.



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